Warrior General Games

i got that same build to start with on my new lvl 4 DE

Strength: 51.5
Blocking: 10.6
Speed: 19.5
Tackling: 14.5
Agility: 15.5
Throwing: 8
Jumping: 10.6
Catching: 8
Stamina: 10.6
Carrying: 8
Vision: 10.6
Kicking: 8
Confidence: 10.6
Punting: 8

Originally posted by miked33
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by michoool123


Originally posted by UnderDogs



Originally posted by michoool123




Originally posted by UnderDogs






the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

I have said it a million bagillion times. I had a speed defensive end who didn't do anything till I switched his equipment to agility. To top it all off speed ends are getting a nerf. protect is getting a boost. Agility is the best thing for getting around blockers. never compared specific players. Just saying IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE. agility is better. HOLY SHIT I hate people who are so stupid they make up stories to try to talk to the big dogs.

You do see the irony here right?

Yes ,you're still a nobody? And you're still talking?

Who are you and what have you done besides make a ton of stupid posts?

same can be said for you.

Originally posted by pburgh80
Strength: 51.5
Blocking: 10.6
Speed: 19.5
Tackling: 14.5
Agility: 15.5
Throwing: 8
Jumping: 10.6
Catching: 8
Stamina: 10.6
Carrying: 8
Vision: 10.6
Kicking: 8
Confidence: 10.6
Punting: 8

you're already going the wrong way with that guy, unless you plan on him being a great run stuffing d.e. If That's the case, more power to you.

Originally posted by xManning1018x
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by michoool123


Originally posted by UnderDogs




the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

I have said it a million bagillion times. I had a speed defensive end who didn't do anything till I switched his equipment to agility. To top it all off speed ends are getting a nerf. protect is getting a boost. Agility is the best thing for getting around blockers. never compared specific players. Just saying IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE. agility is better. HOLY SHIT I hate people who are so stupid they make up stories to try to talk to the big dogs.

38 sacks in 5 seasons does not a "big dog" make.

it makes a bigger dog than someone with 2 career sacks, doesn't it. Probably wouldn't have that many sacks if it wasn't for switching all my gear to agility. and that's been my point the whole time.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by xManning1018x

38 sacks in 5 seasons does not a "big dog" make.

it makes a bigger dog than someone with 2 career sacks, doesn't it. Probably wouldn't have that many sacks if it wasn't for switching all my gear to agility. and that's been my point the whole time.

I was following you up until you confused "2" with "139".

Try harder next time. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=32935

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by miked33

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by michoool123



Originally posted by UnderDogs




Originally posted by michoool123





Originally posted by UnderDogs







the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

I have said it a million bagillion times. I had a speed defensive end who didn't do anything till I switched his equipment to agility. To top it all off speed ends are getting a nerf. protect is getting a boost. Agility is the best thing for getting around blockers. never compared specific players. Just saying IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE. agility is better. HOLY SHIT I hate people who are so stupid they make up stories to try to talk to the big dogs.

You do see the irony here right?

Yes ,you're still a nobody? And you're still talking?

Who are you and what have you done besides make a ton of stupid posts?

same can be said for you.

What? I'm pretty sure most people find my posts to generally be informative. Pretty much everyone finds your posts to be dumb.

Originally posted by xManning1018x
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by xManning1018x


38 sacks in 5 seasons does not a "big dog" make.

it makes a bigger dog than someone with 2 career sacks, doesn't it. Probably wouldn't have that many sacks if it wasn't for switching all my gear to agility. and that's been my point the whole time.

I was following you up until you confused "2" with "139".

Try harder next time. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=32935



Manning's DE is twice as good as your DE could ever hope to be so I really hope you weren't talking to him.

Originally posted by miked33
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by miked33


Originally posted by UnderDogs



Originally posted by michoool123




Originally posted by UnderDogs





Originally posted by michoool123






Originally posted by UnderDogs








the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

I have said it a million bagillion times. I had a speed defensive end who didn't do anything till I switched his equipment to agility. To top it all off speed ends are getting a nerf. protect is getting a boost. Agility is the best thing for getting around blockers. never compared specific players. Just saying IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE. agility is better. HOLY SHIT I hate people who are so stupid they make up stories to try to talk to the big dogs.

You do see the irony here right?

Yes ,you're still a nobody? And you're still talking?

Who are you and what have you done besides make a ton of stupid posts?

same can be said for you.

What? I'm pretty sure most people find my posts to generally be informative. Pretty much everyone finds your posts to be dumb.


this.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by michoool123

Oh ok ill help ya out
Originally posted by miked33


Originally posted by UnderDogs



Originally posted by Kayoh




Unsticky this and sticky miked33's guide.

NOPE mike is doubting his own guide now. speed ends are going bye bye.

what?

I just LUB the irony, keep on going mr. troll.

oooooooo you're level 11 with 2 career sacks makes you good at this game. oooooooo
i mean ooooooooooooooooooo gtfo.

Who said shit about my DE? Im just saying your DE's are bad (bad troll too)

Ok so in conclusion it's dumb to add agility. and agility isn't more important than speed. Is that basically what we are getting at here? Now don't go saying well, no you need agility to a certain extent. Because everyone is basically slamming agility like it's worthless. and All I am saying from experience. MY d.e. sucks. Good news. Yeah tell me something I don't know. YES HE SUCKS. HE SUCKS HE SUCKS. lets get past that. Now lets move onto the fact my SPEEEEEDDDDDDD defensive END, didn't start doing SHIT, Until I switched all his equipment to agility. SO he STILL HAS OVER 70 speed. AND over 85 agility. right now. I could switch all the equipment to speed and he will have 91 speed right now I could do this. BUT speed isn't as good as agility. After looking over every season I listened to douche bags tell me speed was the key. I switched all my equipment to agility and he actually started producing sacks. so yeah BEING A SPEED end actually wasted my time. and put me behind. Now that Bort is nerfing speed even more. This is outdated nonsense,now. Agility is starting to make players better, than just having all speed. STAY STuck on your speed. all I know is eventually speed won't do shit without agility. I would rather be slow and be able to get around the blockers, than to be fast and hope I can break block after block.

Originally posted by xManning1018x
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by xManning1018x


38 sacks in 5 seasons does not a "big dog" make.

it makes a bigger dog than someone with 2 career sacks, doesn't it. Probably wouldn't have that many sacks if it wasn't for switching all my gear to agility. and that's been my point the whole time.

I was following you up until you confused "2" with "139".

Try harder next time. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=32935



It'd never been about you. You might want to go check the quack for narcissism.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Ok so in conclusion it's dumb to add agility. and agility isn't more important than speed. Is that basically what we are getting at here? Now don't go saying well, no you need agility to a certain extent. Because everyone is basically slamming agility like it's worthless. and All I am saying from experience. MY d.e. sucks. Good news. Yeah tell me something I don't know. YES HE SUCKS. HE SUCKS HE SUCKS. lets get past that. Now lets move onto the fact my SPEEEEEDDDDDDD defensive END, didn't start doing SHIT, Until I switched all his equipment to agility. SO he STILL HAS OVER 70 speed. AND over 85 agility. right now. I could switch all the equipment to speed and he will have 91 speed right now I could do this. BUT speed isn't as good as agility. After looking over every season I listened to douche bags tell me speed was the key. I switched all my equipment to agility and he actually started producing sacks. so yeah BEING A SPEED end actually wasted my time. and put me behind. Now that Bort is nerfing speed even more. This is outdated nonsense,now. Agility is starting to make players better, than just having all speed. STAY STuck on your speed. all I know is eventually speed won't do shit without agility. I would rather be slow and be able to get around the blockers, than to be fast and hope I can break block after block.

I don't think anyone in this thread said that agility sucks. I recommended keeping the base numbers of speed and agility even and then putting all equipment into speed because I think it's slightly better and it's inefficient to split equipment points.

I was planning to use him in a 3-4 so huge number of sacks were not in his future. but I will gett his agility and speed up once he gets strength to first cap.

UnderDogs turns yet another great and helpful thread into a steaming pile. MikeD had a great thread going here until you came in and shit all over it like you always do.