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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Kayoh

Originally posted by UnderDogs


even the o.p is doubting himself bahahah
The OP's DE has 19 sacks in a much better league than the one your DE is in, dude. I'm not hating because I don't even own a DE, but don't come in here and take over a thread that somebody else created with the intention to give advice. If you want to teach people how to make DEs like yours, create your own topic for it.

who said to make a d.e like mine? Agility is better, and now the op is thinking it,and doubting his own guide, in this very thread.look a couple of pages back. He said he is thinking about switching everything to agility.wtf are you talking about?

What? The comment I made about trying out agility was made well over a season and likely 10+ pages ago. I am not planning on switching to agility in the near future. Please stop putting words in my mouth.

To everyone else: sorry I haven't been able to get back to you all, I'll try to catch up this weekend.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Kayoh

Originally posted by UnderDogs


even the o.p is doubting himself bahahah
The OP's DE has 19 sacks in a much better league than the one your DE is in, dude. I'm not hating because I don't even own a DE, but don't come in here and take over a thread that somebody else created with the intention to give advice. If you want to teach people how to make DEs like yours, create your own topic for it.

I never once said my d.e was better than anyone's. I never once said to build a d.e. like mine. My d.e. sucks. I am merely promoting that agility is better. you can have 90+ speed, or 90+ agility. after the nerfs, the agility d.e's are doing better. I made up my mind when I had a speed end who started getting sacks when I switched equipment over to agility. I don't care what people think. I also don't care for people putting words into my mouth. I never once said to build a d.e. like mine. If people so choose to build one like that, then so be it. I understand this game is hard.

What are you doing here? Any evidence to back this up? As far as I'm concerned comparing players in different leagues is pretty close to worthless, but the highest profile super high agility DE that I'm aware of (David Amazing) is having a much worse season than most of the super high speed guys.

Originally posted by miked33
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Kayoh


Originally posted by UnderDogs



even the o.p is doubting himself bahahah
The OP's DE has 19 sacks in a much better league than the one your DE is in, dude. I'm not hating because I don't even own a DE, but don't come in here and take over a thread that somebody else created with the intention to give advice. If you want to teach people how to make DEs like yours, create your own topic for it.

I never once said my d.e was better than anyone's. I never once said to build a d.e. like mine. My d.e. sucks. I am merely promoting that agility is better. you can have 90+ speed, or 90+ agility. after the nerfs, the agility d.e's are doing better. I made up my mind when I had a speed end who started getting sacks when I switched equipment over to agility. I don't care what people think. I also don't care for people putting words into my mouth. I never once said to build a d.e. like mine. If people so choose to build one like that, then so be it. I understand this game is hard.

What are you doing here? Any evidence to back this up? As far as I'm concerned comparing players in different leagues is pretty close to worthless, but the highest profile super high agility DE that I'm aware of (David Amazing) is having a much worse season than most of the super high speed guys.

never compared any players.

Originally posted by UnderDogs

the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by miked33

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by Kayoh



Originally posted by UnderDogs




even the o.p is doubting himself bahahah
The OP's DE has 19 sacks in a much better league than the one your DE is in, dude. I'm not hating because I don't even own a DE, but don't come in here and take over a thread that somebody else created with the intention to give advice. If you want to teach people how to make DEs like yours, create your own topic for it.

I never once said my d.e was better than anyone's. I never once said to build a d.e. like mine. My d.e. sucks. I am merely promoting that agility is better. you can have 90+ speed, or 90+ agility. after the nerfs, the agility d.e's are doing better. I made up my mind when I had a speed end who started getting sacks when I switched equipment over to agility. I don't care what people think. I also don't care for people putting words into my mouth. I never once said to build a d.e. like mine. If people so choose to build one like that, then so be it. I understand this game is hard.

What are you doing here? Any evidence to back this up? As far as I'm concerned comparing players in different leagues is pretty close to worthless, but the highest profile super high agility DE that I'm aware of (David Amazing) is having a much worse season than most of the super high speed guys.

never compared any players.

"after the nerfs, the agility d.e's are doing better."

still waiting on evidence

Hey Miked if you could take a look at my DE at some point from the last page that would be great. I started him based on your advice back in july and I was wondering if you could tell me if he is coming along ok or needs work in certain things.


here are his stats (without equipment or custom equipment). he has 6 unspent SP.
Strength: 29.64
Blocking: 15.05
Speed: 71.64 (+18 from lvl.16 equipment and CE).
Tackling: 27.64
Agility: 70.64
Throwing: 8
Jumping: 17.05
Catching: 8
Stamina: 33.23
Carrying: 8
Vision: 49.64
Kicking: 9
Confidence: 19.05
Punting: 8

His SA's are 1-2-4-7-0 (not including CE). Some people telling me to keep bringing TV up then shed block. Others are telling me I need change direction and first step.

I've stuck with your build advice this far that speed>>agility>>>vision>Tunnelvision>>Shedblock>>FS/CD. Despite people always trying to "zomg go agility" or "cap strength what the fuck are you doing??"

but has it changed any with the new pass block schemes. THe pass rush delay. and the bonus to protect?

what do you think? Klarg needs a tune up from the mechanic.

Originally posted by michoool123
Originally posted by UnderDogs


the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

Stop talking to me.

Originally posted by michoool123
Originally posted by UnderDogs


the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

I have said it a million bagillion times. I had a speed defensive end who didn't do anything till I switched his equipment to agility. To top it all off speed ends are getting a nerf. protect is getting a boost. Agility is the best thing for getting around blockers. never compared specific players. Just saying IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE. agility is better. HOLY SHIT I hate people who are so stupid they make up stories to try to talk to the big dogs.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by michoool123

Originally posted by UnderDogs



the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

I have said it a million bagillion times. I had a speed defensive end who didn't do anything till I switched his equipment to agility. To top it all off speed ends are getting a nerf. protect is getting a boost. Agility is the best thing for getting around blockers. never compared specific players. Just saying IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE. agility is better. HOLY SHIT I hate people who are so stupid they make up stories to try to talk to the big dogs.

38 sacks in 5 seasons does not a "big dog" make.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by michoool123

Originally posted by UnderDogs



the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

Stop talking to me.

LOL. What a terrible.


I'd much rather have mike's DE. Yours isn't bad, but 55% of your sacks are from one game and you've been shut out twice. Mike's has no more than 38% of his sacks in one game and has only been shut out once.

Also, helping people doesn't seem to interest you in the least. Mike has kept this thread going strong for multiple seasons strictly for the purpose of helping people out. Miked33 > Underdogs

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by michoool123

Originally posted by UnderDogs



the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

I have said it a million bagillion times. I had a speed defensive end who didn't do anything till I switched his equipment to agility. To top it all off speed ends are getting a nerf. protect is getting a boost. Agility is the best thing for getting around blockers. never compared specific players. Just saying IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE. agility is better. HOLY SHIT I hate people who are so stupid they make up stories to try to talk to the big dogs.

You do see the irony here right?

Oh ok ill help ya out
Originally posted by miked33
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Kayoh


Unsticky this and sticky miked33's guide.

NOPE mike is doubting his own guide now. speed ends are going bye bye.

what?

I just LUB the irony, keep on going mr. troll.

Originally posted by michoool123
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by michoool123


Originally posted by UnderDogs




the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

I have said it a million bagillion times. I had a speed defensive end who didn't do anything till I switched his equipment to agility. To top it all off speed ends are getting a nerf. protect is getting a boost. Agility is the best thing for getting around blockers. never compared specific players. Just saying IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE. agility is better. HOLY SHIT I hate people who are so stupid they make up stories to try to talk to the big dogs.

You do see the irony here right?

Yes ,you're still a nobody? And you're still talking?

Originally posted by michoool123
Oh ok ill help ya out
Originally posted by miked33

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by Kayoh



Unsticky this and sticky miked33's guide.

NOPE mike is doubting his own guide now. speed ends are going bye bye.

what?

I just LUB the irony, keep on going mr. troll.

oooooooo you're level 11 with 2 career sacks makes you good at this game. oooooooo
i mean ooooooooooooooooooo gtfo.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by michoool123

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by michoool123



Originally posted by UnderDogs





the agility d.e's are doing better.

That's NOT comparing? How the hell do you get stats like that if you didnt compare DE's and gather facts and data, or are you just assuming then considering the "changes" that nerfs speed DEs?

I have said it a million bagillion times. I had a speed defensive end who didn't do anything till I switched his equipment to agility. To top it all off speed ends are getting a nerf. protect is getting a boost. Agility is the best thing for getting around blockers. never compared specific players. Just saying IN MY OWN EXPERIENCE. agility is better. HOLY SHIT I hate people who are so stupid they make up stories to try to talk to the big dogs.

You do see the irony here right?

Yes ,you're still a nobody? And you're still talking?

Who are you and what have you done besides make a ton of stupid posts?