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regoob2
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Originally posted by Robbnva
That's what you said in this thread, but in the original thread where I proved you wrong, you said get sacks.

Also, like I said if that is really their job, 90% of nfl DEs aren't doing it right.

I'm assuming that website is wrong on that aspect, I'm sure if you asked bum Philips, we would confirm that his DEs were designed to occupy the blockers


It really depends on your definition of "occupy". A 1 gap player regardless of a 3 or 4 man front, isnt going to just occupy a blocker. That's common in a 2 gap D like the Pats ran in there 3-4. Warren Sapp is your classic 1 gap interior rusher. He played the 3 tech in Tampa but could play the 5 in a 30 front. They need to get up field and disrupt. Disrupt the rushing lanes and get to the passer. If you're a 1 gap player and you're just occupying a blocker you're not going to have a job for long.
 
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I also know the owner of that website from a couple other forums we've been on together for years. He's a regular football fan / forum poster.

He also contradicts himself in the next few sentences after he states the DEs job is to occupy.
Edited by regoob2 on May 9, 2012 07:51:29
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/team_stats.pl?league_id=280&conference_id=0&stat=defense&sort=pass_deflections&playoffs=0



BTW Dimmy builds the best CBs in GLB..... Leads the WL in pass deflections...
 
Robbnva
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It may be the intention that 3-4 DEs penetrate, but the stats don't lie. In almost every single team in the nfl that runs a 3-4, the DE isn't the leading sack getter.

Ballicik can talk theories til he is blue in the face, just like he does with his cb is better cause he has more speed, but when it comes to performance, his dot underperforms.

Ballicik is like a scientist who has great hypothesis but can't ever prove any of them
 
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Originally posted by Robbnva
It may be the intention that 3-4 DEs penetrate, but the stats don't lie. In almost every single team in the nfl that runs a 3-4, the DE isn't the leading sack getter.

Ballicik can talk theories til he is blue in the face, just like he does with his cb is better cause he has more speed, but when it comes to performance, his dot underperforms.

Ballicik is like a scientist who has great hypothesis but can't ever prove any of them


he said penetrate ... im not going to lie, thats as far as i got
 
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Originally posted by Robbnva
That's what you said in this thread, but in the original thread where I proved you wrong, you said get sacks.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4866002&page=9#45044629
Originally posted by jdbolick
It's cool that you're as clueless about real football as you are about GLB. It's funny to watch you ignorantly insist that all 3-4s are alike, which couldn't be less true. The LeBeau 3-4 does have two-gap DEs whose primary responsibility is to occupy blockers, but most current 3-4 teams actually use the Phillips version that features one-gap DEs who actually are supposed to shoot gaps and penetrate. So hey, now you can say that you learned something today. In the meantime, please stop making yourself look ridiculous by comparing GLB to the NFL, or by continuing to show that you can't mentally grasp that the argument has nothing to do with 3-4 vs. 4-3 since it's actually about power rush tactic vs. evasive.


Also fun to go back and read this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4866002&page=7#45042488
 
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Originally posted by Robbnva
It may be the intention that 3-4 DEs penetrate, but the stats don't lie. In almost every single team in the nfl that runs a 3-4, the DE isn't the leading sack getter.

Ballicik can talk theories til he is blue in the face, just like he does with his cb is better cause he has more speed, but when it comes to performance, his dot underperforms.

Ballicik is like a scientist who has great hypothesis but can't ever prove any of them


Achieving the most sacks on the team or not, doesnt change the players responsibilities. Also rarely will you see an interior player leading a team in sacks. Especially a team that has DeMarcus Ware on it.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Originally posted by Robbnva

That's what you said in this thread, but in the original thread where I proved you wrong, you said get sacks.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4866002&page=9#45044629
Originally posted by jdbolick

It's cool that you're as clueless about real football as you are about GLB. It's funny to watch you ignorantly insist that all 3-4s are alike, which couldn't be less true. The LeBeau 3-4 does have two-gap DEs whose primary responsibility is to occupy blockers, but most current 3-4 teams actually use the Phillips version that features one-gap DEs who actually are supposed to shoot gaps and penetrate. So hey, now you can say that you learned something today. In the meantime, please stop making yourself look ridiculous by comparing GLB to the NFL, or by continuing to show that you can't mentally grasp that the argument has nothing to do with 3-4 vs. 4-3 since it's actually about power rush tactic vs. evasive.


Also fun to go back and read this: http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4866002&page=7#45042488


this thread is about CBs, stop talking about your crap ass DEs
 
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Originally posted by Robbnva
It may be the intention that 3-4 DEs penetrate, but the stats don't lie. In almost every single team in the nfl that runs a 3-4, the DE isn't the leading sack getter.

Ballicik can talk theories til he is blue in the face, just like he does with his cb is better cause he has more speed, but when it comes to performance, his dot underperforms.

Ballicik is like a scientist who has great hypothesis but can't ever prove any of them

My DE had an entire thread dedicated to him because he's the only DE consistently getting sacks in the WL this season. You humiliate yourself in one thread after another, which became easier to understand once I realized that you cannot possibly have any shame left.
 
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Originally posted by MadCow DTD
http://goallineblitz.com/game/team_stats.pl?league_id=280&conference_id=0&stat=defense&sort=pass_deflections&playoffs=0

BTW Dimmy builds the best CBs in GLB..... Leads the WL in pass deflections...

I certainly underestimated the quality of dimmy's dots. He's a boss.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
lol. Thank you for providing a picture perfect illustration of the delusion I referenced.


Please point this out. Other than gart and dpride who are both trolling this thread, no one has come close to agreeing with you. And point of fact, they have both aggressively recruited my CBs to play in WL in the past. Their actions speak louder than words. They both like my CBs even if they want to try and troll in this thread by saying otherwise.

Originally posted by jdbolick


Actually I pointed out that my coverage corners have far better stats (both raw and as a percentage) than yours this season.


No. You used distorted stats to try and claim that yours outperform mine. But when we actually look at how our CBs perform in terms of not giving up passes, both of yours have given up for more receptions allowed and have a much higher receptions allowed to targets ratio. You can talk of PDs all you want, but mine give up less passes than yours. That's all that matters when it comes to winning the game.

And I can easily refer to the prior two full seasons where my CB had a better receptions allowed to targets ratio and "made a play" on a higher percentage of his targets. But you conveniently forget that because it doesn't fit your delusion.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Please point this out. Other than gart and dpride who are both trolling this thread, no one has come close to agreeing with you.

Plenty including bhall did, and more did in your RMP thread. You're the one who only has people like Robbnva & Luzod supporting you. That should tell you something. Also, you seem to forget that I had a corner on Halifax as well, and my dots are not only widely desired by teams but often used as an example of how to build. Granted, I have told people not to go as hard into speed as I did on my corners.

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You can talk of PDs all you want, but mine give up less passes than yours.

This isn't real life where good coverage forced a bad throw. In GLB if you did not deflect, knock loose, or intercept the ball then your coverage defender was not responsible for preventing a completion. Trying to take credit for bad passes is just sad.

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And I can easily refer to the prior two full seasons where my CB had a better receptions allowed to targets ratio and "made a play" on a higher percentage of his targets. But you conveniently forget that because it doesn't fit your delusion.

If by "conveniently forget" you mean that I brought up your CB having better stats than mine last season in this thread before you did, then I guess so. I tend to use the English language and not whatever lhf's brain transforms it into, however.
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1357405
 
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Originally posted by bhall43
Kit could complete 80% against the quad coverage of 2 jd and 2 lhf corners combined.


pretty sure this is saying that both lhf and jd's cbs suck ass.

nice try ballick.
 
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bhalls CBs are turrible
 
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