Originally posted by Ballbright
Originally posted by BradyFTW
Originally posted by Ballbright
Originally posted by BradyFTW
Just drop it, guys. Even if they were colluding, do the rules even say that you can't? It's just not a big deal, really. Everyone should seriously just drop it and get on with things.
Yes, the rules say you can't. You're an owner and you don't know that???
Gutting a colluding are two of the biggest problems in GLB. There are countless threads with suggestions, ideas, fixes and complaints about it.
It is a serious problem, as dishonesty, like what occurred here, make the game no fun for everyone else.
Error 1: I'm not an owner. I'm a GM, who deals exclusively with game-planning. We leave all signing decisions to our owner.
Error 2: It is not against the rules. It may be a 'problem', as subjective as that term is, but the rules do not state that what the Bandits did was illegal. Maybe it will be illegal in the final release, but it isn't now. Deal with it.
My mistake, I assumed you were an owner. Still being a GM and not knowing colluding is illeagal? C'mon guy.
What you seem to imply, and the reason I added a loss of respect for New England, is that you seem to be ok with this. It isn't ok...
Regardless of whether you think it illegal or not (and I don't see how anyone could begin to think it wasn't collusion, but apparently some people don't or won't see it), it is wrong. The entire situation is wrong.
If Billy was an NFL GM, and did what he did you can rest assured he'd be banned from the league, and there is no way in hell that trades would have gone through.
Whether or not you believe that catspaw was "unaware" of what was going on (which would be an like believing Michael Vick had no clue what was going on), what he did was unethical. That so many bandit's players would come the defense of what happened (and the one or two other people who did) is appalling, and speaks volumes about the questionable character of those people.
I'm done with trying to rehash this stuff. It's pretty clear what happened. Billy admitted in this thread that he contacted Catspaw prior to making the trade via PM. If you still believe no collusion occurred after that, you're at best stupidly naive.
As an owner of a gutted team trying to rebuild, I go through the struggle every day of trying to find good players. Some days I get lucky and sign someone, most I don't. That an undefeated team would go to these kinds of lengths to do some backwater deal and bring on more players is disgusting.
As for me, I will continue to put forth that anyone associated with this deal, and those choosing not to condemn it, have a loss of my respect. I will make it my business to make sure every team entering the league every year knows what a group of opportunistic shitbags the bandits are, and what owners are "okay" with it.
The worst part about it is they went from being the team everyone was jealous of for their 13-0 record to a bunch of douchebags overnight for no reason.
JOE has my respect for doing the right thing, speaking out in the face of adversity. For those who don't believe I'd do the same thing--google my name "Ben Allbright" read the article "Am I A Torturer"
Character comes first...even when playing a stupid internet football game...
Shameless self-promotion is for losers. Seriously, you are taking this game *way* too seriously. You're right that this would be a huge problem in the NFL, in large part because, in the business setting, collusion violates federal law, and it would also presumably be grounds for the league losing its anti-trust exemption. You're missing one crucial point, though: this is not the NFL. It's a browser-based football simulator. You're still giving me grief for not knowing that collusion is illegal: quote the GLB rule that says that what Catspaw did wsa illegal. And btw, if you don't get the hypocrisy of calling me out while simultaneously condoning an illegal activity (logging into someone else's account), then I don't know what to tell you.
You keep getting up on your moral high horse with your character-first rhetoric, but in the process you seem to have lost sight of the fact that nothing was done by Catspaw that suggests poor character. He did his job, and didn't break any rules doing it. You'd think that at some point, after multiple other players from multiple other teams with no vested interest in the situation attested that what he did isn't a big deal, you're realize that the only spectacle here is being caused entirely by you.
