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Alcapown
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Well, I dont know how you define gutting exactly, but he is passing ownership of the team in the post season, and him and his guys wanted off, but ya I see what you are saying, but as far as using someone elses log in ID, I think that is wrong lol, and not on par with whats going on here, but I understand what you are saying, but when I talked to Mamba, saw his post, and heard he is passing ownership, I didnt look at it from the perspective of gutting his team, I looked at if from what my perspective, and I think any owner in this league wouldve loved to have gotten these guys, I put my cards on the table, and opposed to the hundreds of offers he had to choose from, he picked mine, and some of his guys followed some didnt, but I think any owner would have done the exact same thing. I dont see the wrong on MY part. I had a great teal for my team, I didnt gut a team, thats not my decision. But I understand what you are saying, I just dont want to be labeled a cheater when I did nothing against the reals that would constitute calling me a cheater. And I think you can agree with that. But I see what you are saying.
 
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based on how you explained it my conscience would not have let me pursue that deal

you may see it differently
 
Alcapown
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A team being gutted means the players on their are screwed, I dont think Mamba did that, If I know him, and based on their forums etc, Im sure he told them everything going on, and thats why theres probably alot of CPU players there. But lets just lay this thing to rest, I did not cheat, but you question my conscience, fine, Ill take that any day than to be called something Im not. Best of luck on the rest of your season!
 
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a team being gutted means the good players leave and the bad ones get stuck and so does the new owner. its a cheap move, but i really dont care.
 
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Originally posted by Jonny on the Spot
a team being gutted means the good players leave and the bad ones get stuck and so does the new owner. its a cheap move, but i really dont care.


agreed, very cheap. i've dumped alot of coin getting started in this game and this kind of shit sucks and makes me think twice. Build a team through fair trades and smart moves, not by taking advantage of loop holes and getting a ton of talent for a hand shake. Rather insulting to the honst players in here.
 
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and btw....can you provide links to these forum posts nobody else seemed to see???
 
Alcapown
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So now you are saying im not honest shacky? Wow you are classic, how is it insulting to honest players, I saw the post, and offered and sent a PM, and they liked what they heard, I did what a coach does, recruited, I did nothing wrong, anything else that happened with his team that he is giving away after the season is not ME.
 
Alcapown
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And what do you mean nobody seems to see? Nobody else has questioned the authenticity....
 
shacky21
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you acquired a ton of talent for nothing, tell me what other sport that happens in? It is insulting to players with integrity who try to build a team without exploiting loopholes, which this most certainly is. In no situation would one of the major sports allow 10 talented players to leave to anohter team for nothing. Don't act naive as if you don't know what I/we are referring to. It's a cheap tactic and a cheap and juvenile way to construct a team.

And because nobody questioned the authenticity publicly, doesn't mean privately they haven't questioned it and doesn't mean they have seen it.
 
Lef Grebo
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Umm,

Seems to be some inconsistencies in your story. The team that all these players came from, http://goallineblitz.com/game/home.pl?user_id=56219, is not owned by mamba. It is owned by someone call the boss. Who now has a team in the AAA league gutted of all players. His team chemistry is shot to hell. This is looking like a classic gutting. He has been screwed and that league has been hurt.

This is the definition of gutting, whether that was your intention or not, that is what happened. And it is an activity that Bort and the admins have been clear to state they frown on, and are taking messure to try and stop.

Looks like you got away with one here. Lucky does not even begin to desribe your good fortune.
 
Alcapown
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Shacky, cheap tactic? Its called recruiting, I saw a post for a lot of high caliber players, and I went for it, I did nothing wrong, cheap, or juvenile. I have nothing to do with what he does with his team, and hes a good guy so I would highly doubt he didnt give them the chance to get our or anything like that. And Lef Grebo, he owns it now, but if you look back, or heck even ask an admin you will see it was formally owned by Mamba, like I said he didnt want it anymore, he realized he didnt have the time required to be an owner. And it wasnt my intention nor did I have any realization of it at all for the Mambas to be gutted. ANY owner here that wouldve saw the post for these kind of players wouldve pounced in a heart beat, and you would be lieing if you deny it. I did nothing wrong, I had nothing to do nor did I have knowledge of what the future of his team was gonna be other than he was giving it to someone else to run. And shacky you say they left for nothing, they left because they like what I stood for, the team, our forums etc, and they liked the league we are in, and if you consider that nothing, you should not be a team owner.

 
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Great, another cheater....
 
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Are you a Politician by chance?


Originally posted by Alcapown
Shacky, cheap tactic? Its called recruiting, I saw a post for a lot of high caliber players, and I went for it, I did nothing wrong, cheap, or juvenile. I have nothing to do with what he does with his team, and hes a good guy so I would highly doubt he didnt give them the chance to get our or anything like that. And Lef Grebo, he owns it now, but if you look back, or heck even ask an admin you will see it was formally owned by Mamba, like I said he didnt want it anymore, he realized he didnt have the time required to be an owner. And it wasnt my intention nor did I have any realization of it at all for the Mambas to be gutted. ANY owner here that wouldve saw the post for these kind of players wouldve pounced in a heart beat, and you would be lieing if you deny it. I did nothing wrong, I had nothing to do nor did I have knowledge of what the future of his team was gonna be other than he was giving it to someone else to run. And shacky you say they left for nothing, they left because they like what I stood for, the team, our forums etc, and they liked the league we are in, and if you consider that nothing, you should not be a team owner.



 
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Originally posted by Alcapown
It wasnt a friend lol, ask the Phoenix Mambas, I pitched my teams ideas and values and what we want in our players, and Mamba loved what he heard, ask him yourself, I know none of them in real life, wow nice allegations.. research before you start accusing people of stuff please. I play by the rules and always have and always will, and I really dont appreciate people assuming otherwise without knowing ANY facts at all, ask them yourselves go ahead, have the Admins do an IP scan and you can see, do whatever you have to idc.

Anyways, good game tonight Messengers, came down to the wire.



and his nose grew even longer.....
 
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Originally posted by Alcapown
O and Omaha Dogs, we beat yall first game of the season without any of them, did that smell funny too?

Edit: I dont want to come off as bitter, but I hate these false accusations, with the origin probably being jealousy anyways, and if not cool. I wish you guys an awesome next half of the season, but I dont appreciate you accusing me of this at all, I regard the games integrity more importantly than I do winning ball games.


and longer still it grew.
 
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