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23yrwej
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Originally posted by Buckeyes33
Originally posted by Galkuris

Originally posted by Buckeyes33


Can we officially call this a rivalry now? 2-0 against the Pro Teams after they talk crap to us. Not many Pro Teams like us BBB8 teams either. And I know full damn well that we can't stand them.


I seem to remember YOU having a USA Pro league team and not being able to make it....


wrong...? my team was average.

Season 1: 9-7 (lost 1st round in playoffs)
Season 2: 1-2 (sold my team)

reason why I sold my team: Because i had a bunch of my friends on the team and they thought it would be funny to one day just bail out and spam my forum. well i had to trade them (to the Naturals), because everyone on the team was wondering why they all wanted to leave, so more players on my team decided to leave. therefore i was down to CPU players starting. also, i had school and work, so i had no time to run my team, therefore i sold it.

long story short. my team was solid enough, but with a couple of friends that are dicks and no time on my hands, i had to sell the team.

so nice try.


Did you or did you not sell the team? If you sold it then Galk is right and you are wrong.
 
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Originally posted by jrry32


Did you or did you not sell the team? If you sold it then Galk is right and you are wrong.


um.. i sold the team. Galk was referring to me not being able to make it. (meaning I wasn't good enough and my team failed) I just didn't have the time. Now I do and I am saving up my Flex for another team.


 
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Originally posted by jrry32
Originally posted by Buckeyes33

Originally posted by FairForever


To be fair, the Elves will probably make the conference championship, so the game won't likely go on. We can't let a meaningless scrimmage affect our promotion chances.

I guess I should get going, no point in wasting my time in a league that will never have anyone outside of Honolulu ever enter the USA Pro


i am going to bookmark this page, so when the Naturals do make it to the USA Pro one day you will look even more dumb.


I don't see this happening. Xnahog and pitchkid are good guys but you'll have to add some serious talent just to get out of AA because they'll have you outleveled.


i am positive we have some good talent. We have by far the best Defensive Back system in the League. We have a great Special Teams. Our defense is very solid over all. Our Offense has all sorts of weapons, including one of the best OL.
 
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I'm getting tired if this shit, it was funny at first, but now its just gotten embarrassing on both sides

Ocho: yay we kicked some pro ass
pro: we didn't gameplan
ocho: neither did we
pro: try beating a real pro team
ocho: we just did
pro: we didn't gameplan
ocho: neither did we
pro: we dont care about these games
Ocho: neither do we



We get it, same argument over and over again. Is the ocho awesome? Of course. I'd pro awesome? I would think so. Both sides claim not to care, but neither will shut up about it. Its got to the point where more non ocho people post than the ocho, and that ruins these forums, it might as well be FFA now
 
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Originally posted by jrry32
Originally posted by Buckeyes33

Originally posted by FairForever


To be fair, the Elves will probably make the conference championship, so the game won't likely go on. We can't let a meaningless scrimmage affect our promotion chances.

I guess I should get going, no point in wasting my time in a league that will never have anyone outside of Honolulu ever enter the USA Pro


i am going to bookmark this page, so when the Naturals do make it to the USA Pro one day you will look even more dumb.


I don't see this happening. Xnahog and pitchkid are good guys but you'll have to add some serious talent just to get out of AA because they'll have you outleveled.


Thanks Jrry. I try to keep it lowkey, even though I have a little outburst now and then.
 
23yrwej
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Originally posted by Buckeyes33
Originally posted by jrry32

Originally posted by Buckeyes33


Originally posted by FairForever



To be fair, the Elves will probably make the conference championship, so the game won't likely go on. We can't let a meaningless scrimmage affect our promotion chances.

I guess I should get going, no point in wasting my time in a league that will never have anyone outside of Honolulu ever enter the USA Pro


i am going to bookmark this page, so when the Naturals do make it to the USA Pro one day you will look even more dumb.


I don't see this happening. Xnahog and pitchkid are good guys but you'll have to add some serious talent just to get out of AA because they'll have you outleveled.


i am positive we have some good talent. We have by far the best Defensive Back system in the League. We have a great Special Teams. Our defense is very solid over all. Our Offense has all sorts of weapons, including one of the best OL.


I think you are totally missing the point. Like I said, once you hit BBB#8 you will be outleveled by most of the top teams so you'll basically need a team of all level 28s+ to get out of that league. The Naturals are very good but in AA all the top teams are just as good if not better.
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Originally posted by pitchkid20
Originally posted by jrry32

Originally posted by Buckeyes33


Originally posted by FairForever



To be fair, the Elves will probably make the conference championship, so the game won't likely go on. We can't let a meaningless scrimmage affect our promotion chances.

I guess I should get going, no point in wasting my time in a league that will never have anyone outside of Honolulu ever enter the USA Pro


i am going to bookmark this page, so when the Naturals do make it to the USA Pro one day you will look even more dumb.


I don't see this happening. Xnahog and pitchkid are good guys but you'll have to add some serious talent just to get out of AA because they'll have you outleveled.


Thanks Jrry. I try to keep it lowkey, even though I have a little outburst now and then.


I have outbursts quite often. BTW the 50 cent avatar is not very hard to miss!
 
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Eh, he's been staying out of the news lately. 50's more for recruiting purposes. Who would you rather play for, the King of Rap or a Storm Trooper getting it on by himself? For real, my avi's pretty unique to the game and stands out a bit. Sadly, I don't have your creativity when it comes to them.
 
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Originally posted by pitchkid20
Eh, he's been staying out of the news lately. 50's more for recruiting purposes. Who would you rather play for, the King of Rap or a Storm Trooper getting it on by himself? For real, my avi's pretty unique to the game and stands out a bit. Sadly, I don't have your creativity when it comes to them.


mine is uniquer
 
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In its very own special way, for a special person
 
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Originally posted by jrry32

I think you are totally missing the point. Like I said, once you hit BBB#8 you will be outleveled by most of the top teams so you'll basically need a team of all level 28s+ to get out of that league. The Naturals are very good but in AA all the top teams are just as good if not better.


So levels are all that matter? I forgot who is undefeated in AA #2? Can someone refresh my memory? Oh that's right, it is the BBB #8 alumni Hurricane Warriors and they are starting a bunch of level 23 players still.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1509

Only ONE player level 29 (the non-Wang), one level 28 and the vast majority are level 25 or under as of today. No one has come closer to them than 13 points so far this season, I guess game planning and builds might mean something too. But we're just some little BBB league not even worth wasting time speaking with because when we bought our teams we didn't get to just start out in a league with a A next to the number without having winning a single game to get there. We're at the bottom of the pyramid, please just continue to ignore us peons while we toil away with no hope of ever advancing very far no matter what we do. We'll understand when you get back up on your pedestal and no longer grace our forums with your presence to remind us of the hopelessness.
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Originally posted by rsb014
Originally posted by jrry32


I think you are totally missing the point. Like I said, once you hit BBB#8 you will be outleveled by most of the top teams so you'll basically need a team of all level 28s+ to get out of that league. The Naturals are very good but in AA all the top teams are just as good if not better.


So levels are all that matter? I forgot who is undefeated in AA #2? Can someone refresh my memory? Oh that's right, it is the BBB #8 alumni Hurricane Warriors and they are starting a bunch of level 23 players still.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1509

Only ONE player level 29 (the non-Wang), one level 28 and the vast majority are level 25 or under as of today. No one has come closer to them than 13 points so far this season, I guess game planning and builds might mean something too. But we're just some little BBB league not even worth wasting time speaking with because when we bought our teams we didn't get to just start out in a league with a A next to the number without having winning a single game to get there. We're at the bottom of the pyramid, please just continue to ignore us peons while we toil away with no hope of ever advancing very far no matter what we do. We'll understand when you get back up on your pedestal and no longer grace our forums with your presence to remind us of the hopelessness.


The Aces started at the bottom too. Stop playing that card. Sure there is BBB teams that are good but like i said before, there is not one BBB team that exists right now that could win USA Pro. Or USA AAA1/2, or USA AA1/2/3/4. There's a tier for a reason. Those leagues all have teams that are super dominant just like the the teams that are super dominant down in BBB, for the mere fact that they have been around longer, and there has been teams better than them in each league every year. Work your way up then the respect comes.

What Honolulu is doing is a good feat but its nothing special. The Aces had to face those same teams on route to our first championship. Then many better ones like the Millens on route to the 2nd championships, and then elite teams such as Fresno Ninjas and Seattle Monsoon etc, in the third. They played the roles you guys have had to the Warriors. And now those teams are getting their championships, and are most likely going to be in a team in BBB's way or a team in AA's way. I'd put my money on it being more than 4 seasons before we see another team from BBB in the pros. The closest one being Honolulu, and thats not happening in 2 seasons either.

Now we're playing teams that have competed for 4 seasons in USA Pro and we're in 3rd place in the pros. We get respect and have a target on our backs by teams everywhere, but as proven by our scrimmage schedule you can see we hang with every Pro league. The same can not be said for Phily, or The Naturals. I think its a clear , the Aces had that game against Phily wraped up, and they came back from 8 down in the 4th quarter. Philly is a good team but we win that game 95/100 times.
 
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I think you all need to get my team's name - and my name - out of your mouths. I'm tired of it. From everyone.

As far as your Aces, Matt, we won. You can disrespect my team all you like, say we got lucky, say we would lose 95 percent of the time, but you're only making yourself look like a tool again. We not only won, we outgained your team by over 100 yards. We outgained you passing. We outgained you rushing. You had two turnovers, we had none. That doesn't scream "mistake" to me. So what if we came back in the fourth quarter? There's 60 minutes for a reason and if you've played one snap of football, you play all 60 minutes.

The more you people minimize, the more you said you really weren't trying, the more you say we were lucky...the more you make your team look like a bunch of poor losers. I thought you'd come around, but you didn't. I guess this really is how you and your team are. And that's sad that you have so much talent but can't take the responsibility that comes with it.

And if you say scrimmages don't matter, then don't go flying your "Aces > Kai" avatar, which was proved in...yup, a scrimmage. You'll note that none of us have made a "Continentals > Aces" avatar. My team hasn't been gloating. But if you're still gloating over the Aces over Cobra Kai, you shouldn't be too surprised some other BBB teams went overboard rejoicing in your comeuppance, especially after some of the smack you talked down here. You made your own bed.

I was proud of my people when we went 0-16 in Season 2, back when you whine about us not winning a championship. We not only didn't get promoted in Season 2, we got relegated. Does that mean we suck now? No, I don't think so. It means I have a dedicated, fire-tested team that always logs in, always changes their settings and is thirsty for victory. Going 0-16 either kills you or makes you stronger. It made us stronger.

Your Aces have done well - far better than we have historically. You've been promoted three times, we've been relegated once. I get that. But if that mattered on the field, you'd have beat us without even trying.

You didn't. It wasn't luck. Get over it.
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Originally posted by 12thKnight
I think you all need to get my team's name - and my name - out of your mouths. I'm tired of it. From everyone.

As far as your Aces, Matt, we won. You can disrespect my team all you like, say we got lucky, say we would lose 95 percent of the time, but you're only making yourself look like a tool again. We not only won, we outgained your team by over 100 yards. We outgained you passing. We outgained you rushing. You had two turnovers, we had none. That doesn't scream "mistake" to me. So what if we came back in the fourth quarter? There's 60 minutes for a reason and if you've played one snap of football, you play all 60 minutes.

The more you people minimize, the more you said you really weren't trying, the more you say we were lucky...the more you make your team look like a bunch of poor losers. I thought you'd come around, but you didn't. I guess this really is how you and your team are. And that's sad that you have so much talent but can't take the responsibility that comes with it.

And if you say scrimmages don't matter, then don't go flying your "Aces > Kai" avatar, which was proved in...yup, a scrimmage. You'll note that none of us have made a "Continentals > Aces" avatar. My team hasn't been gloating. But if you're still gloating over the Aces over Cobra Kai, you shouldn't be too surprised some other BBB teams went overboard rejoicing in your comeuppance, especially after some of the smack you talked down here. You made your own bed.

I was proud of my people when we went 0-16 in Season 2, back when you whine about us not winning a championship. We not only didn't get promoted in Season 2, we got relegated. Does that mean we suck now? No, I don't think so. It means I have a dedicated, fire-tested team that always logs in, always changes their settings and is thirsty for victory. Going 0-16 either kills you or makes you stronger. It made us stronger.

Your Aces have done well - far better than we have historically. You've been promoted three times, we've been relegated once. I get that. But if that mattered on the field, you'd have beat us without even trying.

You didn't. It wasn't luck. Get over it.


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As the owner of the Naturals (First USA BBB team to beat a Pro team ), I have to say that this is getting a little ridiculous. I'll officially say it loud and clear.

I DON'T THINK THE USA BBB 8 (referred to as the "Ocho" from this point on) is better than USA Pro. The top tier of "Ocho" could compete in USA Pro better than some Pro teams can. I think that's a fair assessment. The Naturals aren't under the impression that we could beat every team in USA Pro. I think there are a few teams we could go 5/10 with however.

I'm not going to lay down and say that the Naturals couldn't compete(win 5-7 games) in the Pro League if that's what you're looking for. I'm willing to give a little and say we wouldn't be a top team in Pro but I think some of the Pro guys whining about it will have to give a little and give our guys some credit as well.

Heck I'll take it a step further. The sole reason I challenged 5 Pro Teams (only one accepted) was for recruiting purposes. I have no problem admitting that. We could say we were the first ever BBB team to defeat a Pro team. I don't care what you say.... that's a heck of a recruiting tool. Smart managerial move on my part.

The purpose of posting the first victory over a Pro team by a BBB team was exposure. In fact, we've gotten a great response from it. The more you keep posting about it the more advertising for us. So, I don't really care how long this thread goes. I said what some of you needed to hear for this thing to die. But if you choose to keep going at it............ thanks for the advertisement.

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