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Fair enough. I guess what I was trying to do was prevent to pissing contest.

I for one know how difficult it is to build a good WR. My level 23 has just about every attribute excluding speed higher than his teammates yet he is still out produced every single week. You would think that after having speed, agility, and catching all capped while others only have speed you'd be an effective player. There has to be something I'm missing.

Point out in this thread where I said my WR was "something special". I'd be interested in seeing that. Or anywhere else.

As for my little picture, I was pointing out that bad defenses will allow more points. I, however, am on an average team for its league, not winning the majority like yours is. We have the longest loss streak of any team in the league(edit, aside from the extremely underlevelled ones), and I am suffering from morale issues, you are not. If you want to have any sort of valid opinion you have to consider more than one factor.

You keep saying I'm strutting around trying to act like a knowitall, yet you jump into a thread I create asking for opinions (not advice, mind you). Simply because I didn't go with what was offered doesn't mean I didn't want to hear it.

I'll admit, I have a tendency to word things in a "snappy" manner, it gives people room to assume I think I know everything (at least that's the assumption I'm making based off of your react to the diction). But it's not something I find extremely unusual on the internet, or really anywhere else in life. I'm going to say what I think I know as though I know it, because that's how perceptions work.

If you took the time to examine my WR's playing history you'd find that in my first five games I saw 36 plays total as a wide receiver. In two of those games I didn't see a single snap. Most players will see that amount in one game (likely a little more than that even, depending on stamina).
We are also a mostly run oriented team, as most are these days given the amount strength affects broken tackles. HBs will see FAR greater ypg stats on average than even the best WRs (The highest WR I've seen is 130 vs the highest HB at ~380) and a team will go with what produces results over what makes players happy. When I finally got taken off of special teams my first game was decent, my second game was 89 yards, my third game was 90 yards, my fourth game was 56 yards, etc. Obviously I've had low points even off of special teams (one game I got 0 receptions, pretty horrible) but I've never said, "Hey, I'm the best WR out there, listen to me!" On this forum I typically answer simple questions or give my opinion. I assume any opinions are taken lightly, including my own, so how is that harmful at all?

this thread is so close to delivering.

DW i got nothing against you, but you DO act very certain of what you say, both now and a month ago when you were saying the exact opposite thing. on the other hand, guys like packman, me, bukowski from what ive seen, iverson.... these guys are posting ideas and asking for feedback. you claim this thread was just asking for opinions, but really you had your mind made up from the beginning and wasnt looking for anything other than a fight. Posting your build is asking for advice, period. if you wanted opinions, you say 'hey ive recently become convinced maintaining a 1:1 ratio is very helpful. would you maintain a 1:1 at the expense of soft capping speed and why'. instead of 'what would you do? omg yould do that? thats dumb.'

And again dude, youre level 14. why the hell are you worried about a 1:1 ratio when youre 14? yea super important to have a constant rate of acceleration when your only good performances are going to be lucky plays anyhow. even if I thought a 1:1 ratio is important (which im not against talking about) id certainly not give a fuck about it til i soft capped speed and agility. you could have had both of those soft capped at 10, 12 if you cared about stamina early, 8 if you medium build, and youre 14 and youre presumably 12 speed away from cap. thats 2 free 2nd tier points youve given up. youre 4 skill points behind 100% of the WR who knew what they were doing since they rolled (anyone after season 1). so really your level 14 is a 13, and always will be 1 level behind everyone else. All because you care about your performance in bbb or a?

I care about my performance because this is my first character (won't be my last), and I'm using it to help my team. I was invited to the team by an IRL friend, incidentally the QB of the team.
It's also useful for judging first hand what works and what doesn't so that when I get to (slow) building more players (likely a few more WRs because it's my favorite position in football) I'll do it more effectively.

Originally posted by knudlen
you claim this thread was just asking for opinions, but really you had your mind made up from the beginning and wasnt looking for anything other than a fight.

Nah, I just assumed I'd get more than one answer. There are obviously several things I can do. I would have been open to anything except speed/agility tweaks. I have plans for those stats, and they seem fine to me given my current level. I -do- get plenty of separation, believe it or not. the 50 agi 50 speed combo, along with route running, allows me a few seconds in between catch and tackle -usually-. But in many cases I am outmatched, in many my morale affects my playing, etc. My goal isn't to be the best WR ever.. Maybe when I make a second.

its ok to want to help your team but, at this level with the multitude of skills a WR needs to be successful, youre gonna do well on broken plays and do the same as you would no matter what path you take on normal plays