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Originally posted by morgan3
TSE you say your teams better than Flames, so why would you not take his bet if you think your teams better? You get to rename his team to like TSE Is My Daddy. And rename one of his players Dikless Maggot.

I just don't understand why people talk about being better than a team then when offered a bet they say no.


What about the bet of the losing team has to throw the season next year and get relegated to AAA?

I think TSE believes he has more to lose and thus, the bet is unfair.

However, your relegation bet is pretty creative.

Originally posted by morgan3
TSE you say your teams better than Flames, so why would you not take his bet if you think your teams better? You get to rename his team to like TSE Is My Daddy. And rename one of his players Dikless Maggot.

I just don't understand why people talk about being better than a team then when offered a bet they say no.


What about the bet of the losing team has to throw the season next year and get relegated to AAA?

You have to look at the values of the bets and the odds...
If I value my team at $10k, and he values his team at $1k (I value his team at $50 in what it is worth to myself), then a 50/50 shot of us winning or even an 80/20 shot of us winning isn't enough to justify the amount of money I'm risking on the game, I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning. If he wanted to lay out 2Gs into it then that's a different story, but what he's offering doesn't equate to a couple thousand dollars to match up with what I'm risking.

Changing just the team names is the same concept just on a smaller scale, he'd be asking me to change the name of something that is worth far more than his team. I'm not going to take a bet that doesn't have an equal payoff to me.

So...basically you're saying that you think way too highly of yourself and what you've "put into" this team for there ever to be a reasonable bet you call fair? I'm pretty sure that's what it's going to be because NO ONE values your team as much as you value them and so it's going to be nowhere close to fair on any bet you would probably consider to be fair.

Originally posted by Doc


I think TSE believes he has more to lose and thus, the bet is unfair.



I don't think TSE realizes this is an online browser game.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Lame bet.

I value my team far higher than your team. I wouldn't sell my team for $5,000 if somebody offered to paypal me right now. I don't believe there is a person in the GLB world that values their team at the level that I value my own team based upon the amount of time and work that I've put into this team and my perception of the value of a dollar.

Look at it this way, if Bort told me right now that I could paypal him $50 to have your team erased, I would probably do it. I think that if your team was replaced in the Pros with a higher leveled team, say the champs of Canada Pro, then it would only increase my potential competition for a championship, so it wouldn't be an issue of me buying out the competition, but $50 would be worth it to me to see your team erased. In other words, having the highest penalty available of erasing your team has about a $50 value in my mind. Would I pay $75 for that or $100, no way. So if there is a $50 value in my view of what is worth to me to do that, then you can use that as a baseline for something less significant like renaming one single player or your team name.

Now going back to my team. If somebody pulled a suitcase right now in front of me with 5 grand in it to take my team away from me, there is no way in heck I would sell for such a trivial amount of money compared to how much I choose to invest my time and energy into this game. So, using that as a reference point for how much I value my team compared to my value of doing something detrimental to your team, it's not even close in proportion to downgrade your team in comparison to me downgrading my team.

So the bet just doesn't compute on my end. Now if you said you wanted to bet 50 bucks to my 50 bucks or whatever, that's an equal proportion of money win or lose. But to risk something of my team against your team is an astronomical disproportion to anything I would be interested in. I'm not afraid of the concept of a death match in theory, but it would have to be scaled to something that would make sense for me to want to be a part of. Obviously you wouldn't do this, but if you said I had to retire my QB in exchange for you retiring your team ownership, well that would be something I could easily live with.

Either way, we have a lot of time before the game is played, so if you want to get creative with some sort of bet, I'm all for it, but you have to consider that I value my franchise at an exorbitant amount compared to the average GLB user, and I don't make bets that don't offer a fair price gained for the price given up. Come up with something more unique that we could bet or more even-leveled and I'll take your bet.

All I got out of this was "I'm afraid to play the Aces, so if I could buy their team out of existence I would." And then a bunch of crap I wish I'd never read.

I think that you, (A) like to read everything you write (like someone who likes the sound of their own voice so they talk a lot) and then sit there chuckling about how "great" you are, and (B) and use big words and "complicated" terms to make yourself feel more intelligent then you really are.

That's just my opinion.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert


You have to look at the values of the bets and the odds...
If I value my team at $10k, and he values his team at $1k (I value his team at $50 in what it is worth to myself), then a 50/50 shot of us winning or even an 80/20 shot of us winning isn't enough to justify the amount of money I'm risking on the game, I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning. If he wanted to lay out 2Gs into it then that's a different story, but what he's offering doesn't equate to a couple thousand dollars to match up with what I'm risking.

Changing just the team names is the same concept just on a smaller scale, he'd be asking me to change the name of something that is worth far more than his team. I'm not going to take a bet that doesn't have an equal payoff to me.

Whose to say he doesn't value his team at $10k and values your team at $50? He threw out an offer as you say "I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning." Both are you guys are betting the same thing therefore making it a fair bet.

LULZ

Originally posted by Grim Truth


All I got out of this was "I'm afraid to play the Aces,[snip]

I think if he was afraid to play the Aces, he wouldn't have sent the challenge.

Oooh, ooh!

Winner of the game gets my crappy RB!! hahaha!

Originally posted by Grim Truth


All I got out of this was "I'm afraid to play the Aces, so if I could buy their team out of existence I would." And then a bunch of crap I wish I'd never read.

I think that you, (A) like to read everything you write (like someone who likes the sound of their own voice so they talk a lot) and then sit there chuckling about how "great" you are, and (B) and use big words and "complicated" terms to make yourself feel more intelligent then you really are.

That's just my opinion.

WOW, way off pal, it's the complete opposite.

First of all, the Aces didn't make one peep of a word to challenge us since friendlies came up. I offered to him. We also didn't make a bet on the game. I feel our team is the best team in the game, and we have virtually nothing to gain from beating him, but he has everything to gain from beating us. He would LOVE to have the opportunity to pull off a win and then have that. Why did I challenge him then, what the heck is in it for me or for us?

The answer is nothing, other than the fact that I take great pride in our team and am willing to risk losing face to Flames for free for nothing because what our team stands for is that we are not afraid of adversity or throwing ourselves into a potential fire, because we one bad ass team that doesn't mind taking a big risk for the mere sport of it.

Originally posted by morgan3
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert



You have to look at the values of the bets and the odds...
If I value my team at $10k, and he values his team at $1k (I value his team at $50 in what it is worth to myself), then a 50/50 shot of us winning or even an 80/20 shot of us winning isn't enough to justify the amount of money I'm risking on the game, I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning. If he wanted to lay out 2Gs into it then that's a different story, but what he's offering doesn't equate to a couple thousand dollars to match up with what I'm risking.

Changing just the team names is the same concept just on a smaller scale, he'd be asking me to change the name of something that is worth far more than his team. I'm not going to take a bet that doesn't have an equal payoff to me.

Whose to say he doesn't value his team at $10k and values your team at $50? He threw out an offer as you say "I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning." Both are you guys are betting the same thing therefore making it a fair bet.

LULZ


You obviously don't know to whom you are talking sir. His "logic" only applies to him. Sheesh.

Originally posted by morgan3
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert



You have to look at the values of the bets and the odds...
If I value my team at $10k, and he values his team at $1k (I value his team at $50 in what it is worth to myself), then a 50/50 shot of us winning or even an 80/20 shot of us winning isn't enough to justify the amount of money I'm risking on the game, I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning. If he wanted to lay out 2Gs into it then that's a different story, but what he's offering doesn't equate to a couple thousand dollars to match up with what I'm risking.

Changing just the team names is the same concept just on a smaller scale, he'd be asking me to change the name of something that is worth far more than his team. I'm not going to take a bet that doesn't have an equal payoff to me.

Whose to say he doesn't value his team at $10k and values your team at $50? He threw out an offer as you say "I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning." Both are you guys are betting the same thing therefore making it a fair bet.

LULZ


Logic says it. It's not about what he thinks his team is worth or wants to pretend what it's worth. From a logical standpoint there is not another team in this game that has more player assets and team assets cumulatively than our franchise. The sum of our parts is just more to work with than any other team. Coupled with my immense time and effort and my perceived value of a dollar, it is the combination of all of those things that make our team and my valuation of our team unsurpassable. His team just doesnt have players in the top tier of talent to remotely be considered on an even plane as ours are.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by morgan3

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert




You have to look at the values of the bets and the odds...
If I value my team at $10k, and he values his team at $1k (I value his team at $50 in what it is worth to myself), then a 50/50 shot of us winning or even an 80/20 shot of us winning isn't enough to justify the amount of money I'm risking on the game, I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning. If he wanted to lay out 2Gs into it then that's a different story, but what he's offering doesn't equate to a couple thousand dollars to match up with what I'm risking.

Changing just the team names is the same concept just on a smaller scale, he'd be asking me to change the name of something that is worth far more than his team. I'm not going to take a bet that doesn't have an equal payoff to me.

Whose to say he doesn't value his team at $10k and values your team at $50? He threw out an offer as you say "I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning." Both are you guys are betting the same thing therefore making it a fair bet.

LULZ


Logic says it. It's not about what he thinks his team is worth or wants to pretend what it's worth. From a logical standpoint there is not another team in this game that has more player assets and team assets cumulatively than our franchise. The sum of our parts is just more to work with than any other team. Coupled with my immense time and effort and my perceived value of a dollar, it is the combination of all of those things that make our team and my valuation of our team unsurpassable. His team just doesnt have players in the top tier of talent to remotely be considered on an even plane as ours are.

It's a bitch that you don't have 3 league titles then what with your team being so great and all.

We didn't challenge you because we play in the same league. My stance was if I was going to play you it was in the finals so I never sent a challenge, I felt you had to earn the right to play a team, and you have not earned the right to play us.

I however have the most confidence in my team than any other own on GLB which is probably why we have 25 scrimmage games on the schedule.

And just to prove how bad your team really does suck, our nickel corner has 9 interceptions. That's the exact same number as the entire DDL team combined.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=129173

So after reading this thread, I believe (now correct me if I'm wrong) that Flames54 is implying that DDL sucks.

Bummer, dude. Bummer.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by morgan3

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert




You have to look at the values of the bets and the odds...
If I value my team at $10k, and he values his team at $1k (I value his team at $50 in what it is worth to myself), then a 50/50 shot of us winning or even an 80/20 shot of us winning isn't enough to justify the amount of money I'm risking on the game, I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning. If he wanted to lay out 2Gs into it then that's a different story, but what he's offering doesn't equate to a couple thousand dollars to match up with what I'm risking.

Changing just the team names is the same concept just on a smaller scale, he'd be asking me to change the name of something that is worth far more than his team. I'm not going to take a bet that doesn't have an equal payoff to me.

Whose to say he doesn't value his team at $10k and values your team at $50? He threw out an offer as you say "I am risking a 20 percent chance on the high end of those odds of losing $10,000, but I'm not seeing anything that I can profit from in winning." Both are you guys are betting the same thing therefore making it a fair bet.

LULZ


Logic says it. It's not about what he thinks his team is worth or wants to pretend what it's worth. From a logical standpoint there is not another team in this game that has more player assets and team assets cumulatively than our franchise. The sum of our parts is just more to work with than any other team. Coupled with my immense time and effort and my perceived value of a dollar, it is the combination of all of those things that make our team and my valuation of our team unsurpassable. His team just doesnt have players in the top tier of talent to remotely be considered on an even plane as ours are.

Bolded = crazy awesome! You can't argue with that brand of "logic". You just can't.

Originally posted by Doc
So after reading this thread, I believe (now correct me if I'm wrong) that Flames54 is implying that DDL sucks.

Bummer, dude. Bummer.



I don't think that "your team really does suck" can reasonably be called an implication. He straight said it.