Ya, I have players in one and a team in the other as well bolster. A lot of people do.
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Originally posted by Galkuris
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
It has nothing to do with Ego. The East has just always been tougher at the top. The West was always able to claim that the bottom of the East was crap, but pretty much all of that will be gone after relegation/promotion, while, as mentioned earlier, the West will actually be losing some good teams, so they won't get stronger on the bottom.
And I'm sorry if the teams in the East seem to care less about the regular season than the Western teams. It's just a different philosophy, I guess. But when 4-5 teams know that, from day 1, you're going to make the playoffs and have to face the same 3 teams almost no matter what you do, then why kill yourself in the regular season?
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
It has nothing to do with Ego. The East has just always been tougher at the top. The West was always able to claim that the bottom of the East was crap, but pretty much all of that will be gone after relegation/promotion, while, as mentioned earlier, the West will actually be losing some good teams, so they won't get stronger on the bottom.
And I'm sorry if the teams in the East seem to care less about the regular season than the Western teams. It's just a different philosophy, I guess. But when 4-5 teams know that, from day 1, you're going to make the playoffs and have to face the same 3 teams almost no matter what you do, then why kill yourself in the regular season?
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Originally posted by Shagg
Originally posted by bolstersam
Originally posted by Galkuris
Originally posted by Dope
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by D-will
East is slowly pulling out the last couple of easy teams will be sent down in the east and the west is gonna have quality teamsmoving down
Yea, the bottom team in the East starting next season (basing it on this season) will be Firefox, whose starters are mostly in their low-mid 20's.
You could actually make an argument that the Bucks in the West are going to be the biggest cupcake team in the league. I think the tides have finally shifted completely, so the top of the competition in the East is the toughest and the bottom doesn't have any auto-win teams.
Jed,
I'm new in USA Pro, so maybe I'm out of line here, but where is the proof about all of the top teams being in the East?
In Season 2, if I read everything correctly, the West beat the East in the Week 16 games more times than not. Then the West followed that up by shutting out the defending champ in the Bort Bowl.
In season 3, The West again beat the East in the week 16 matchups, and this year's Bort Bowl looks like it's going to be a tough game no matter which 4 of the teams make it.
So, why the continued dissing of the West? I seriously don't understand it.
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
I have coached in the West and have had players in both conferences... The East is much better
Horse shit!! WTF are u basing this on bro? I'd really like to know.
It's OK to be passionate but let's not curse.
Originally posted by bolstersam
Originally posted by Galkuris
Originally posted by Dope
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by D-will
East is slowly pulling out the last couple of easy teams will be sent down in the east and the west is gonna have quality teamsmoving down
Yea, the bottom team in the East starting next season (basing it on this season) will be Firefox, whose starters are mostly in their low-mid 20's.
You could actually make an argument that the Bucks in the West are going to be the biggest cupcake team in the league. I think the tides have finally shifted completely, so the top of the competition in the East is the toughest and the bottom doesn't have any auto-win teams.
Jed,
I'm new in USA Pro, so maybe I'm out of line here, but where is the proof about all of the top teams being in the East?
In Season 2, if I read everything correctly, the West beat the East in the Week 16 games more times than not. Then the West followed that up by shutting out the defending champ in the Bort Bowl.
In season 3, The West again beat the East in the week 16 matchups, and this year's Bort Bowl looks like it's going to be a tough game no matter which 4 of the teams make it.
So, why the continued dissing of the West? I seriously don't understand it.
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
I have coached in the West and have had players in both conferences... The East is much better
Horse shit!! WTF are u basing this on bro? I'd really like to know.
It's OK to be passionate but let's not curse.
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Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by Galkuris
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
It has nothing to do with Ego. The East has just always been tougher at the top. The West was always able to claim that the bottom of the East was crap, but pretty much all of that will be gone after relegation/promotion, while, as mentioned earlier, the West will actually be losing some good teams, so they won't get stronger on the bottom.
And I'm sorry if the teams in the East seem to care less about the regular season than the Western teams. It's just a different philosophy, I guess. But when 4-5 teams know that, from day 1, you're going to make the playoffs and have to face the same 3 teams almost no matter what you do, then why kill yourself in the regular season?
See, this is what I don't understand.
I get the whole "we don't care about the regular season". I'm a Yankee fan, believe me I understand.
But in the key game. The one that matters the most...it's tie at 1-1 isn't it?
Mustangs win in season 1.
Extreme win in season 2.
Why does that make the East far and above better? It seems to me that if the East had won both years, then you'd definitely have a case. What happens if the West wins again this year? Will you still say that the East is better? Even though on the field , in the biggest game, the West was victorious?
Also, we the West is losing 2 teams. The 2 teams we are getting are going to be the Galaxy Aces and one of the top teams from AAA #2. I guarantee that whatever two teams we get, they would completely DUST West Philly and Dallas. Nothing against Dallas or West Philly, but if either of them make the playoffs in AAA I'll be surprised.
Anyway, we'll see what happens on Monday. All 4 teams left definitely are solid teams and any one of them can win.
West coast bias, of course.
Originally posted by Galkuris
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
It has nothing to do with Ego. The East has just always been tougher at the top. The West was always able to claim that the bottom of the East was crap, but pretty much all of that will be gone after relegation/promotion, while, as mentioned earlier, the West will actually be losing some good teams, so they won't get stronger on the bottom.
And I'm sorry if the teams in the East seem to care less about the regular season than the Western teams. It's just a different philosophy, I guess. But when 4-5 teams know that, from day 1, you're going to make the playoffs and have to face the same 3 teams almost no matter what you do, then why kill yourself in the regular season?
See, this is what I don't understand.
I get the whole "we don't care about the regular season". I'm a Yankee fan, believe me I understand.
But in the key game. The one that matters the most...it's tie at 1-1 isn't it?
Mustangs win in season 1.
Extreme win in season 2.
Why does that make the East far and above better? It seems to me that if the East had won both years, then you'd definitely have a case. What happens if the West wins again this year? Will you still say that the East is better? Even though on the field , in the biggest game, the West was victorious?
Also, we the West is losing 2 teams. The 2 teams we are getting are going to be the Galaxy Aces and one of the top teams from AAA #2. I guarantee that whatever two teams we get, they would completely DUST West Philly and Dallas. Nothing against Dallas or West Philly, but if either of them make the playoffs in AAA I'll be surprised.
Anyway, we'll see what happens on Monday. All 4 teams left definitely are solid teams and any one of them can win.
West coast bias, of course.
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Originally posted by Jed
The East has just always been tougher at the top.
The East sees the top teams as "tougher" because they have more cupcake games at the bottom. Play a bunch of crappy teams, then when you actually have to play a good one it is easy to say to yourself "wow, these top teams are tough"
In the West you have more tough games. It doesn't make the top teams any less tough than the the Eastern ones but with fewer cupcake games they don't enjoy the same perception.
People think Eastern teams are better because the top teams stand out more from the bottom teams, leading to the perception of "tough" teams.
The East has just always been tougher at the top.
The East sees the top teams as "tougher" because they have more cupcake games at the bottom. Play a bunch of crappy teams, then when you actually have to play a good one it is easy to say to yourself "wow, these top teams are tough"
In the West you have more tough games. It doesn't make the top teams any less tough than the the Eastern ones but with fewer cupcake games they don't enjoy the same perception.
People think Eastern teams are better because the top teams stand out more from the bottom teams, leading to the perception of "tough" teams.
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Wins by teams in the West over teams in the East are just flukes.
Even though they happen more often.
Somebody could explain it, but apparently it causes heads to explode.
Although this hasn't been tested yet.
Empirical data says one thing; Egos say another.
Even though they happen more often.
Somebody could explain it, but apparently it causes heads to explode.
Although this hasn't been tested yet.
Empirical data says one thing; Egos say another.
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Other than the Mustangs last 2 games against the West have both ended in 30-0 blowouts, HAHA!
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Originally posted by tiger5
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by D-will
East is slowly pulling out the last couple of easy teams will be sent down in the east and the west is gonna have quality teamsmoving down
Yea, the bottom team in the East starting next season (basing it on this season) will be Firefox, whose starters are mostly in their low-mid 20's.
You could actually make an argument that the Bucks in the West are going to be the biggest cupcake team in the league. I think the tides have finally shifted completely, so the top of the competition in the East is the toughest and the bottom doesn't have any auto-win teams.
Have you taken a look at Buck's roster? They are playing backups now.
Actually Denver Globetrotters might be in trouble if they don't recruit hard enough this offseason.
If youve noticed ive recruited my ass off this offseason lol But only three verbals two 27's and one 25
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by D-will
East is slowly pulling out the last couple of easy teams will be sent down in the east and the west is gonna have quality teamsmoving down
Yea, the bottom team in the East starting next season (basing it on this season) will be Firefox, whose starters are mostly in their low-mid 20's.
You could actually make an argument that the Bucks in the West are going to be the biggest cupcake team in the league. I think the tides have finally shifted completely, so the top of the competition in the East is the toughest and the bottom doesn't have any auto-win teams.
Have you taken a look at Buck's roster? They are playing backups now.
Actually Denver Globetrotters might be in trouble if they don't recruit hard enough this offseason.
If youve noticed ive recruited my ass off this offseason lol But only three verbals two 27's and one 25
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Don't get me wrong. The rosters of Kzoo and Philly are pretty formidable.
They also have two great owners and I'm sure their game planning is top notch.
I just don't believe the East has a monopoly on those things.
They also have two great owners and I'm sure their game planning is top notch.
I just don't believe the East has a monopoly on those things.
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Guys thanks for the welcome and I know all the attention is focused on the Aces and rightfully so they've done an excellent job to get here from BBB#1.
I wanted to mention that it goes to show what the competition in USA AAA#1 is like, now that the 2 teams that faced each other in the USA AA#1 championship game from season 2 is now in the USA AAA#1 championship game and moving on to pros.
I also wanted to say something about packers who has done some amazing things with his team taking them from USA A to USA Pros in just 3 seasons. As his GM every season we lose 4-5 key players going to their buddies teams, they wanted more playing time, ect. and it absolutely puzzles me why these people leave when packers does his best to keep everyone happy and we have a successful team.
Nonetheless, he works his butt off to get players in there and throughout the season it seems everything eventually gels and then the Rage get on a roll.
Just throw us poor dogs a bone lol.
Flames congrats and were hoping to have another good championship game like last season.
I wanted to mention that it goes to show what the competition in USA AAA#1 is like, now that the 2 teams that faced each other in the USA AA#1 championship game from season 2 is now in the USA AAA#1 championship game and moving on to pros.
I also wanted to say something about packers who has done some amazing things with his team taking them from USA A to USA Pros in just 3 seasons. As his GM every season we lose 4-5 key players going to their buddies teams, they wanted more playing time, ect. and it absolutely puzzles me why these people leave when packers does his best to keep everyone happy and we have a successful team.
Nonetheless, he works his butt off to get players in there and throughout the season it seems everything eventually gels and then the Rage get on a roll.
Just throw us poor dogs a bone lol.
Flames congrats and were hoping to have another good championship game like last season.
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Originally posted by The Suthrner
Originally posted by Shagg
Originally posted by bolstersam
Originally posted by Galkuris
Originally posted by Dope
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by D-will
East is slowly pulling out the last couple of easy teams will be sent down in the east and the west is gonna have quality teamsmoving down
Yea, the bottom team in the East starting next season (basing it on this season) will be Firefox, whose starters are mostly in their low-mid 20's.
You could actually make an argument that the Bucks in the West are going to be the biggest cupcake team in the league. I think the tides have finally shifted completely, so the top of the competition in the East is the toughest and the bottom doesn't have any auto-win teams.
Jed,
I'm new in USA Pro, so maybe I'm out of line here, but where is the proof about all of the top teams being in the East?
In Season 2, if I read everything correctly, the West beat the East in the Week 16 games more times than not. Then the West followed that up by shutting out the defending champ in the Bort Bowl.
In season 3, The West again beat the East in the week 16 matchups, and this year's Bort Bowl looks like it's going to be a tough game no matter which 4 of the teams make it.
So, why the continued dissing of the West? I seriously don't understand it.
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
I have coached in the West and have had players in both conferences... The East is much better
Horse shit!! WTF are u basing this on bro? I'd really like to know.
It's OK to be passionate but let's not curse.
k horse poo that work for you
Originally posted by Shagg
Originally posted by bolstersam
Originally posted by Galkuris
Originally posted by Dope
Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by D-will
East is slowly pulling out the last couple of easy teams will be sent down in the east and the west is gonna have quality teamsmoving down
Yea, the bottom team in the East starting next season (basing it on this season) will be Firefox, whose starters are mostly in their low-mid 20's.
You could actually make an argument that the Bucks in the West are going to be the biggest cupcake team in the league. I think the tides have finally shifted completely, so the top of the competition in the East is the toughest and the bottom doesn't have any auto-win teams.
Jed,
I'm new in USA Pro, so maybe I'm out of line here, but where is the proof about all of the top teams being in the East?
In Season 2, if I read everything correctly, the West beat the East in the Week 16 games more times than not. Then the West followed that up by shutting out the defending champ in the Bort Bowl.
In season 3, The West again beat the East in the week 16 matchups, and this year's Bort Bowl looks like it's going to be a tough game no matter which 4 of the teams make it.
So, why the continued dissing of the West? I seriously don't understand it.
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
I have coached in the West and have had players in both conferences... The East is much better
Horse shit!! WTF are u basing this on bro? I'd really like to know.
It's OK to be passionate but let's not curse.
k horse poo that work for you
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Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by Galkuris
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
It has nothing to do with Ego. The East has just always been tougher at the top. The West was always able to claim that the bottom of the East was crap, but pretty much all of that will be gone after relegation/promotion, while, as mentioned earlier, the West will actually be losing some good teams, so they won't get stronger on the bottom.
And I'm sorry if the teams in the East seem to care less about the regular season than the Western teams. It's just a different philosophy, I guess. But when 4-5 teams know that, from day 1, you're going to make the playoffs and have to face the same 3 teams almost no matter what you do, then why kill yourself in the regular season?
Jed correct me if I am wrong here but the West has won the week 16 matchups this season and last season. They are the defending Bort Bowl champs...so how in any way can the East claim dominance?
Originally posted by Galkuris
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
It has nothing to do with Ego. The East has just always been tougher at the top. The West was always able to claim that the bottom of the East was crap, but pretty much all of that will be gone after relegation/promotion, while, as mentioned earlier, the West will actually be losing some good teams, so they won't get stronger on the bottom.
And I'm sorry if the teams in the East seem to care less about the regular season than the Western teams. It's just a different philosophy, I guess. But when 4-5 teams know that, from day 1, you're going to make the playoffs and have to face the same 3 teams almost no matter what you do, then why kill yourself in the regular season?
Jed correct me if I am wrong here but the West has won the week 16 matchups this season and last season. They are the defending Bort Bowl champs...so how in any way can the East claim dominance?
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Again ya'll it's the complete biasness of the Eastern team GM's that are on here all the time compared to many Western Conference GM's who usually just sit back and stay out of the forums for the most part. What I think that's funny is Sam still considers the Eastern Conference superior when he had to pretty much give up in the West because his team there was taking so many beat downs.
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Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by Galkuris
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
It has nothing to do with Ego. The East has just always been tougher at the top. The West was always able to claim that the bottom of the East was crap, but pretty much all of that will be gone after relegation/promotion, while, as mentioned earlier, the West will actually be losing some good teams, so they won't get stronger on the bottom.
And I'm sorry if the teams in the East seem to care less about the regular season than the Western teams. It's just a different philosophy, I guess. But when 4-5 teams know that, from day 1, you're going to make the playoffs and have to face the same 3 teams almost no matter what you do, then why kill yourself in the regular season?
I think you're referring to more top east teams boosting late but it's easier to get away with making the playoffs and boosting late when there aren't a lot of teams that can challenge you for a playoff spot so it may look like the East cares more about the playoffs than regular season. For example the Extreme barely made it while boosting late.
Originally posted by Galkuris
Because the top teams of the East are egotistic and don't realize how good the West really is. We only have Week 16 games (which obviously don't matter in their eyes) and the "Bort Bowl" to decide this, so it is hard to prove the theory wrong.
It has nothing to do with Ego. The East has just always been tougher at the top. The West was always able to claim that the bottom of the East was crap, but pretty much all of that will be gone after relegation/promotion, while, as mentioned earlier, the West will actually be losing some good teams, so they won't get stronger on the bottom.
And I'm sorry if the teams in the East seem to care less about the regular season than the Western teams. It's just a different philosophy, I guess. But when 4-5 teams know that, from day 1, you're going to make the playoffs and have to face the same 3 teams almost no matter what you do, then why kill yourself in the regular season?
I think you're referring to more top east teams boosting late but it's easier to get away with making the playoffs and boosting late when there aren't a lot of teams that can challenge you for a playoff spot so it may look like the East cares more about the playoffs than regular season. For example the Extreme barely made it while boosting late.
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Originally posted by knightdemon
Again ya'll it's the complete biasness of the Eastern team GM's that are on here all the time compared to many Western Conference GM's who usually just sit back and stay out of the forums for the most part. What I think that's funny is Sam still considers the Eastern Conference superior when he had to pretty much give up in the West because his team there was taking so many beat downs.
I couldn't of said it any better. How is the East better when you had to give up your team in the West because you couldn't hang.
Again ya'll it's the complete biasness of the Eastern team GM's that are on here all the time compared to many Western Conference GM's who usually just sit back and stay out of the forums for the most part. What I think that's funny is Sam still considers the Eastern Conference superior when he had to pretty much give up in the West because his team there was taking so many beat downs.
I couldn't of said it any better. How is the East better when you had to give up your team in the West because you couldn't hang.
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