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get a pancake = good protection
not getting a pancake nor allowing anything else = good protection

pancake = overrated

Cheers for the tips Eddie, much appreciated

Phail. There's two types of DEs. The one who told you how to make would be a balanced DE and most likely get less then 5-10 sacks.

nvm... making a new topic

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I, for one, appreciate you taking the time to help other DE's with their builds. I'm not sure how much it'll help me because i'm starting to think my DE is pretty F'd, but it's nice to know that not ALL** dominant DE's are that insecure that they need to keep their builds/tips a secret.




**This statement excludes those of you in this thread who have provided (in detail) constructive advice.

Originally posted by Voltron
Phail. There's two types of DEs. The one who told you how to make would be a balanced DE and most likely get less then 5-10 sacks.

care to share?

I'll share my build (at least for a little while). Season 1 creation so I've been flying blind. Decent numbers, 16 sacks and 44 hurries, 50+ tackles and 10 or so TFLs (and 5 FFs, 4 of which were on the QB) in season 3 playing as RDE. There would be more sacks but we got a LDE who poached more than a few. Tough league (almost always equal level LOT/LG/QB) although I'll admit that 10 of the hurries came against the one gutted team. Came in around 4th in league for sacks, hurries, and maybe FFs. Had a nice game winning F recovery return this year with 6 broken tackles. Proponent of agility then speed but with enough strength to keep from being put on his ass/shut down right off the bat. Secondary emphasis on vision and tackling. Third on confidence then jumping (training only). Not a fan of the blocking thing (although I've obviously trained it for a day or three)

Milo Danglers

Player Attributes
Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 51.35 Blocking: 18.55
Speed: 49.34 Tackling: 31.38
Agility: 66 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 21.82 Catching: 10
Stamina: 36.58 Carrying: 7
Vision: 31.2 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 26.92 Punting: 7

SAs are mostly pass rush tree 5-5-6-3-1

I'll gladly take any feedback/suggestions from other sucessful RDEs

Originally posted by miked33
Originally posted by SpearSrai

Originally posted by Kayoh

Originally posted by Da Mean Mugga

Originally posted by Kayoh





Not saying anyone is right or wrong, but pancakes are pretty useless as a measure of how valuable your O lineman is to your team. Sacks/hurries/TFLs against is a much better way to judge how valuable your player is to the team imo.

This. 1000x this. I agree with what Kayoh originally said, and have a LOT who doesn't give up anything. He also doesn't get any pancakes, but I couldn't care less about that.

Also to Spear, there are good DEs who post here, but you have to take a lot into consideration. Taking Deebo for instance. He's a good DE, don't get me wrong, but his stats are inflated from playing a lot of easy teams in Alpha of EEPL.

Most of the sacks against "lvl 22 OTs with good builds" you reference, are in fact OTs with crappy builds. People just don't seem to "get" OTs, which lets a lot of DEs abuse them.

I was just about to say this. If you look at his logs etc, he barely has any sacks.. Even thought it shows something like 51.. He cant do crap against good teams.. Or even teams.. only ones he can blow out..

Originally posted by kingj0n
I was just about to say this. If you look at his logs etc, he barely has any sacks.. Even thought it shows something like 51.. He cant do crap against good teams.. Or even teams.. only ones he can blow out..

thats what a strength DE will do. The higher OL you get, the stronger they are, and therefore the harder to get by via high strength.

I saw a DE build with blocking in the mid-30's that was getting a lot of sacks in a prop league. Can anybody comment on the benefits of training blocking up to such a high level?

Well I always thought of blocking differently even though no one else does. Blocking just makes the dots stop another dot from moving around. What if you have good blocking and you can get free from being blocked. Blocking in this game isn't like how well your foot movement is or how low you are or whatever, it just shows a dot holding another dot. Anyone get what I'm trying to say?

Bort has said the blocking attribute helps shed blocks - what I'm not clear on is the amount of SP worth investing (if any).

Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by kingj0n

I was just about to say this. If you look at his logs etc, he barely has any sacks.. Even thought it shows something like 51.. He cant do crap against good teams.. Or even teams.. only ones he can blow out..

thats what a strength DE will do. The higher OL you get, the stronger they are, and therefore the harder to get by via high strength.

That's just dumb. If any particular de build is susceptible to over-inflated stats against crappy OT's its those moronic SPD builds. A good STR build isn't relying on STR to get by the OT, its using STR to neutralize the OT's greatest advantage.