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Gambler75
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian
A main reason I spent as much as I have over the last 8 months on the game is it looked like there was a way past the issues folks were having. If that's not the case, and the only way to have success in a major facet of this game, is to hack an exploit then it should at a minimum be dealt with by the developer.


Honestly, if Bort wanted to fix the pass game, hitting the FIRST interception roll (the dive under the play one), with a tapering/diminishing effect from catching, would probably do the trick. That would make investing in jump / catch necessary, so you get the 2nd shot Int attempt (which also tends to be NOT run back for defensive TDs at an insane rate.)

Adjusting that first roll, and leaving the "I've deflected the ball, now I get another chance for the Int" one alone, would make ALG / first cap only jump, 80+ catching pick freaks, kind of garbage.

And ... I really kind of doubt, that the people running tests on the server back in the day when that was active ... ever truly built 80 catching DBs, to test out the extreme end of builds. They just tried to approximate what was 'meta' then. (At least the ones with the tests made public in that forum) I don't think they ever anticipated how that would go.

And yeah, I share your pain.

Watching passes veer ~30 degrees off to the side, from the player it SAYS it's targeting, on a pass that isn't "bad pass" in the play-by-play, is absolutely infuriating.

Looks like something out of the old NCAA football when the sim would "roll an Int" then try to make the play match up, and you'd watch an OLB jump like 10 feet in the air for the pick. Test them players for grav boots!

Anyways, I'd love to see something like that, to balance out the current pass game imbalance. Maybe even make people consider old school deflect builds again, if they can't just PICK EVERYTHING OFF. But I think Bort is done making changes, and has been for some time.
Edited by Gambler75 on Dec 19, 2025 01:13:48
 
Kenshinzen
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Yep, don't think anything will change in pass game. Speed WRs are dead (except if you make them superfast like wise, running in a straight line and pray no help would come from a teleporting safety).
Edited by Kenshinzen on Dec 19, 2025 02:26:43
 
melon27
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Originally posted by eastcoastbrian
They also release DLCs and do patches to prevent known exploits from being abused. Wasn't the case here. Exploit was being abused for 4+ seasons, it appears.

Banned agents aside, seems like the bigger point in all this is being missed - the only way to succeed in this game with the current mechanics around passing appears to be build dots beyond their natural capacity.

A main reason I spent as much as I have over the last 8 months on the game is it looked like there was a way past the issues folks were having. If that's not the case, and the only way to have success in a major facet of this game, is to hack an exploit then it should at a minimum be dealt with by the developer.


Standard "carrot on a stick" gameplay, mmo's known for it, the rest of the games have caught on too. "If I just fix this one thing next time, or change this one piece", but the meta keeps changing, hence you have to enjoy the chase. If you wanna beat the game, it's time to go back to our 8 bit, 16 bit, 32 bit, 64 bit days. Not that I could ever beat any of those games either, but Game Genie(PeeJJK) helped.

 
BLARYPALOOZA
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Seems like this is a ....

"Hate the Player not the Game"

or a

"Hate the Game not the Player"

Listen, if you know you can abuse the game that has a flaw that helps you win that others aren't aware of... you're kind of a dick and your victories are empty ones... we are all paying hard earned cash and that's just not cool and everyone knows it including yourself if you want to admit it or not... deep down inside, you know. "Honor amongst Thieves" sort of thing, beeotches.

If the game has flaws, which it clearly does, fix the flaws so we don't have this problem with dickheads that take advantage of them whether they have a sideways view of what truly winning at something is supposed to feel and look like or not.

This isn't the first time Bort has been embarrassed by the MOB and the agents that that have been banned, he's had enough and those dudes brought it on themselves. He created a game that they are actively making fun of by abusing the programming. I'd be pissed too!! So would all of you. I would have punted them a LONG time ago.

Build your dots fairly, put in an AI that is based on down/distance, formation, score and situation and let the game play itself. Seems easy enough. About 85% of the agents in this game are pretty cool, normal people... the other 15% are fucking dickheads and you all know who you are, everyone does.
Edited by BLARYPALOOZA on Dec 21, 2025 14:43:24
Edited by BLARYPALOOZA on Dec 21, 2025 14:42:28
 
PLAYMAKERS
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Its a dont leave your house unlocked and blame the robber.
 
BLARYPALOOZA
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Originally posted by PLAYMAKERS
Its a dont leave your house unlocked and blame the robber.



So the robber is justified in stealing because the house is unlocked?
 
melon27
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Originally posted by BLARYPALOOZA

So the robber is justified in stealing because the house is unlocked?


I believe it’s a case of, we all have too much time on our hands so let’s play Fuq Fuq on the internet….
 
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Originally posted by melon27
I believe it’s a case of, we all have too much time on our hands so let’s play Fuq Fuq on the internet….


it's all PLAYFAKERS has tbh
 
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