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Originally posted by FairForever
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oh god he cares or he wouldn't make the playoffs, you can't exactly throw games unless you play all your people out of position.


Making the playoffs in USA Pro East is a joke at the moment. We could take all the equip off our players, never set tactics, and still get at least the seven seed.

The regular season is for experimenting and adjusting to new personnel (if you have it). We don't need the money from a home playoff game, and we don't care about regular season bragging rights.



well then test your squad and play people out of position or shut up about not caring...prove it.


What are you smoking? Playing a non-QB at QB is almost always a guaranteed loss.

The teams don't want to lose on purpose, they're just willing to experiment more to find winning combinations.

Of course, this is the guy who whines about moderators recruiting.


I brought it up jokingly and got a full team recruited and didn't take one chemistry hit and have no CPUs. To some degree I think it is a small advantage to recruit as a Mod or that you have Mods as GMs and most will agree. i don't really consider you an opinion of reason so say what you will.

 
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Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder

Playing my QB at QB can hardly be called "caring" as much as it is "not being brain dead."


This.

Obviously you have a personal beef, and that's cool, but it's making your points rather incoherent.
 
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Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder
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well then test your squad and play people out of position or shut up about not caring...prove it.


What an arbitrary requirement.

I said experimenting, not wasting our time. Playing people out of position doesn't work, we know that. We don't care about wins or losses, we do care about gathering relevant and useful information.


Good job pointing out your contradiction of caring...why play the regular season then if you guys can sleep through it while your gaining your "information". it is the attitude of "not caring" which is BS and iM calling people out like that who claim they don't care. You do care because you can walk all over weak teams while experimenting, a luxury you have and an insult to those teams you beat along the way.


What?

They don't care because all that's required is for them to play everyone at their natural position and watch the carnage.

Playing my QB at QB can hardly be called "caring" as much as it is "not being brain dead."


its the mind set of acting like you don't care when you do for other reasons, ie. they are experimenting and such. I threw an extreme at them to play people out of position to show how unpractical that is just as them "not caring". Show some of your opponents some respect at the very least. Sportsmanship still apllies here for me and many others.
 
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I think by don't care they mean that Harper isn't going to go through and watch every DDL game and see exactly what they've done all season and what was successful, instead he'll take a glance through their team set tactics to what he sees and be done with it.

I would bet when the playoffs come around scouting time goes way up.
 
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Originally posted by BrickHouse
I think by don't care they mean that Harper isn't going to go through and watch every DDL game and see exactly what they've done all season and what was successful, instead he'll take a glance through their team set tactics to what he sees and be done with it.

I would bet when the playoffs come around scouting time goes way up.


Don't speculate a reason for other people. why would it go way up, it shouldn't take longer than 5 or 10 minutes to scout the way the basic tactics work.
 
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its the mind set of acting like you don't care when you do for other reasons, ie. they are experimenting and such. I threw an extreme at them to play people out of position to show how unpractical that is just as them "not caring". Show some of your opponents some respect at the very least. Sportsmanship still apllies here for me and many others.


Right, like I said, and you referenced, it would seem Tim is worried about TSE in the playoffs, as well he should be, TSE has a fine team.

That however doesn't change the fact that Harper doesn't care about this game largely because it makes no difference to him. Home playoff games don't matter and Reg. Season records don't matter. It would be silly for him to tank the game on purpose, but he's not going to break his back trying to win it either.
 
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Originally posted by GRiPSSL

its the mind set of acting like you don't care when you do for other reasons, ie. they are experimenting and such.


Originally posted by Asheme

The regular season is for experimenting and adjusting to new personnel (if you have it). We don't need the money from a home playoff game, and we don't care about regular season bragging rights.



In my first post on the current subject I mentioned that the regular season is for experimenting/adjusting, which implies we care about that aspect of it. What we don't care about is wins and losses, because we know, given the way USA Pro East is at the moment, there is literally zero chance that we miss the playoffs. So we may lose a game or two for the sake of gathering information that could help us when wins and losses do matter.
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Originally posted by Dukester100
TSE wins.

edit: maybe not. look at one of my teams vs. TSE. http://goallineblitz.com/game/compare_teams.pl?team1=88&team2=1658


The matchup bars aren't remotely close to accurate.

I have my own formula for matchups that I use to evaluate other teams and it is extremely accurate. If our teams matched up we would have close to a 10 gap on overall if converted to this formula under my evaluation criteria.
 
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Originally posted by Dravz
TSE wins.

Harper really really doesn't give a shit about the regular season, while TSE has something to prove.


I guarantee that I care less about the regular season than any owner in the game.

I proved this already last year when we didnt boost until the last possible moment despite a lot of teams trying to discredit my strategy and claiming that we wouldnt even make the playoffs.

The reason I could care less about the regular season more than any other owner is because I have the financial advantage over them so the prospects of the playoff revenue are worth less to me than every single one of the 3000 or so owners out there minus maybe 1 or 2 that are in a similar financial situation.
 
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TSE wins.

Harper really really doesn't give a shit about the regular season, while TSE has something to prove.


I guarantee that I care less about the regular season than any owner in the game.

I proved this already last year when we didnt boost until the last possible moment despite a lot of teams trying to discredit my strategy and claiming that we wouldnt even make the playoffs.

The reason I could care less about the regular season more than any other owner is because I have the financial advantage over them so the prospects of the playoff revenue are worth less to me than every single one of the 3000 or so owners out there minus maybe 1 or 2 that are in a similar financial situation.


It's many more then 1 to 2, in fact, you and Harper are very similar financial situations.
 
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TSE wins.

Harper really really doesn't give a shit about the regular season, while TSE has something to prove.


I guarantee that I care less about the regular season than any owner in the game.

I proved this already last year when we didnt boost until the last possible moment despite a lot of teams trying to discredit my strategy and claiming that we wouldnt even make the playoffs.

The reason I could care less about the regular season more than any other owner is because I have the financial advantage over them so the prospects of the playoff revenue are worth less to me than every single one of the 3000 or so owners out there minus maybe 1 or 2 that are in a similar financial situation.


It's many more then 1 to 2, in fact, you and Harper are very similar financial situations.


Dude, you have to account far more data than what you can see. We have a LOT more money than Tim Harper does, it's not even close. For one you have to know if a team has already paid the $9M for the 300 sections next year which we have, you also have to know how much money his players have because maybe all of my players have 500k each in their bank outs for level 32 equipment, did you take that into consideration?

I highly doubt there is ANY team in the game that is close to us in total money, the only POSSIBLE team as of TODAY is the Prague team.
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Damn, that much money for each of your players eh? Where can i sign up =P lol.
 
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Originally posted by Vanilla Thunder

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert


Originally posted by Dravz



TSE wins.

Harper really really doesn't give a shit about the regular season, while TSE has something to prove.


I guarantee that I care less about the regular season than any owner in the game.

I proved this already last year when we didnt boost until the last possible moment despite a lot of teams trying to discredit my strategy and claiming that we wouldnt even make the playoffs.

The reason I could care less about the regular season more than any other owner is because I have the financial advantage over them so the prospects of the playoff revenue are worth less to me than every single one of the 3000 or so owners out there minus maybe 1 or 2 that are in a similar financial situation.


It's many more then 1 to 2, in fact, you and Harper are very similar financial situations.


Dude, you have to account far more data than what you can see. We have a LOT more money than Tim Harper does, it's not even close. For one you have to know if a team has already paid the $9M for the 300 sections next year which we have, you also have to know how much money his players have because maybe all of my players have 500k each in their bank outs for level 32 equipment, did you take that into consideration?

I highly doubt there is ANY team in the game that is close to us in total money, the only POSSIBLE team as of TODAY is the Prague team.


First, there are only so many uses for money. Each of your players could have 8 billion dollars and currently that means very little. From where Harper is sitting, he'll buy all his players their level 24 equip, build the 4 corners and still have money left over after fully expanding them.

I know you love to pretend this game is incredibly deep, but it just isn't so. With the rate at which money come in vs. the rate is leaves, once you've begun to build your 200 level, you've basically beaten the GLB money game right now.

Consider further that it's totally possible he may not be able to afford level 32 upgrades all at once, that still means very little. He'll certainly be able to afford many of them, and those 1-2 AP on back-ups are highly unlikely to be a difference maker.

That may all change in the future but as of now, there's no difference in having 200 million and having 20 (at the level were you're at).
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Originally posted by GBPackFD25
Damn, that much money for each of your players eh? Where can i sign up =P lol.


To you and any other future prospects of high levels:

I'm sure one day there will come a time that your guys will be Free Agents, and when that day comes if we have an opening you can come here and have a blank check for any dollar amount you want. Is $100k bonus enough? If not make it $500k, if not make it $1M, if not, just talk to me, I'll give you what you need!
 
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First, there are only so many uses for money. Each of your players could have 8 billion dollars and currently that means very little. From where Harper is sitting, he'll buy all his players their level 24 equip, build the 4 corners and still have money left over after fully expanding them.

I know you love to pretend this game is incredibly deep, but it just isn't so. With the rate at which money come in vs. the rate is leaves, once you've begun to build your 200 level, you've basically beaten the GLB money game right now.

Consider further that it's totally possible he may not be able to afford level 32 upgrades all at once, that still means very little. He'll certainly be able to afford many of them, and those 1-2 AP on back-ups are highly unlikely to be a difference maker.

That may all change in the future but as of now, there's no difference in having 200 million and having 20 (at the level were you're at).


Haha.

Well now you are trying to save face by discrediting the value of money. Face it you got PWNED!

The discussion was about the money comparison that YOU brought up and YOU got SMACKED DOWN!

I'm not contending here that having so much money means anything special, just the fact that you were WAY off on your comparison by a gigantic amount of money.

Also, this game doesn't have many uses for money but who's to say Bort doesn't add in pricey things to buy in the future. Maybe our endless bankroll will continue to grow and we will have 200M one day to another team's 160M. Maybe that doesn't mean much now but if there are new objects to buy that are 50M a piece or 100M, then we are just getting the money in advance so we don't have to wait to buy it, if it happens.
 
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