Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Lore
Okay, so it's not a huge deal, the world isn't coming to an end, but if I do it right and beat a human owned team and then do the same thing next game and lose to a CPU team, what am I doing wrong? And that is with a team with zero CPU players.

I swore to myself that this would never be a topic that I would ever discuss again. But the only response - having asked this myself a number of times - has always been the same answer; "I have never lost to a CPU team". WTF... So why are human owned teams with human built players losing to CPU teams, when they have clearly shown that they can beat human owned teams?

And if the response is " I have never lost to a CPU team" then do, please, explain... Or is that just they way it used to be?

There could be a very wide variety of problems, the most notable of which being poor builds and poor AI. I don't give 5% when I take on a team responsibility though, and I make damn sure we will be competitive. Very rarely do I put up less than 100 on a CPU team at any level. If I recall it may be more difficult to do that in rookie, but losing is not even a prospect. The teams that are losing to CPUs I would almost invariably consider disorganized and with builds that I would never sign.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
There could be a very wide variety of problems, the most notable of which being poor builds and poor AI. I don't give 5% when I take on a team responsibility though, and I make damn sure we will be competitive. Very rarely do I put up less than 100 on a CPU team at any level. If I recall it may be more difficult to do that in rookie, but losing is not even a prospect. The teams that are losing to CPUs I would almost invariably consider disorganized and with builds that I would never sign.

Fair enough...

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
There could be a very wide variety of problems, the most notable of which being poor builds and poor AI. I don't give 5% when I take on a team responsibility though, and I make damn sure we will be competitive. Very rarely do I put up less than 100 on a CPU team at any level. If I recall it may be more difficult to do that in rookie, but losing is not even a prospect. The teams that are losing to CPUs I would almost invariably consider disorganized and with builds that I would never sign.

With a roster of 55 human players you should never lose to CPU's.
The thing is if you have a few human players your CPU's are penalized.
Not that I really care on the team I have now as I just want a place to park my players but it does not seem right that the CPU's are not equal on both teams.
With just a few human players you will not beat a CPU team all of the time but you should be competitive with them.
This is not what is happening now in this game.

tbh I had a roster of 40

Originally posted by Lore
tbh I had a roster of 40

You missed the point.

Originally posted by Dub J
I've been saying for some time that CPUs need to be closer to human owned dots at this stage in the game.

I think you're getting your way. And then some...

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
It seems they just don't want human owned teams. The only chance my team has is if I sell it and it once again becomes a CPU owned team. That is what they want. I recruited almost all I could find. The team's roster is way better than when i bought the team. I would prefer an all human team but it would be all QBs, RBs, and WRs. I really don't think my team is penalized, it's more the other team's CPUs are boosted by a lot.

I would think a human owned team playing dots in a way that fits their builds would be better for the game than a CPU owned team with Bort DCs and Bort plays. The only fair thing to do for the agents is to let team ownership go CPU again.

Just read the rest of the thread. What exactly are you expecting from a team with 14 human players? You bought a team mid season with 14 dots and are expecting a trophy or something? To be honest the best course of action would be to distribute those players to other needy teams in the age range if you cant recruit more than that. If you dont create the team at rookie or plateau your chances of doing well at this point are slim to nil.

Originally posted by RiverRat2
You missed the point.

I th0ought I did... sorry....

Originally posted by Lore
I th0ought I did... sorry....

Not a big deal.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Just read the rest of the thread. What exactly are you expecting from a team with 14 human players? You bought a team mid season with 14 dots and are expecting a trophy or something? To be honest the best course of action would be to distribute those players to other needy teams in the age range if you cant recruit more than that. If you dont create the team at rookie or plateau your chances of doing well at this point are slim to nil.

What the fuck are you talking about? We are discussing the backwards ass lopsided over powered CPU owned teams. What the fuck do I expect? I expect to be the best team in our conference because I have the best dots period. I recruited to 14 dots and expect my efforts to pay off. We are discussing why GLB prefer CPU owned teams and have a bias against owners who may just play those dots how they were intended to be played. You fucking read the rest of the thread rather pop in every couple pages and post some irrelevant bullshit. You best hope I never catch you with a full roster and I'll teach you some things fool.

Look, scrub, do some research before you look like a total moron. I was in the first PWG LC and a founding member of the greatest PW team in history while you were still waiting for your GLB balls to drop.

If you ever caught me with a full roster it would have to be in a league higher than the laughably unrespected ones you roll around in where you would recieve a 100 to goose egg until you crawled back under the that rock you are usually complaining from.

You bought a team midseason in a joke of a league to get an easy trophy or some shit. Take your fucking beatings and stop bitching. Try to recruit a full team in the offseason and play the game like a man.

Also try to make paragraph structure before mad make words look you dumb.

I can't believe you edited that hogwash

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Look, scrub, do some research before you look like a total moron. I was in the first PWG LC and a founding member of the greatest PW team in history while you were still waiting for your GLB balls to drop.

If you ever caught me with a full roster it would have to be in a league higher than the laughably unrespected ones you roll around in where you would recieve a 100 to goose egg until you crawled back under the that rock you are usually complaining from.

You bought a team midseason in a joke of a league to get an easy trophy or some shit. Take your fucking beatings and stop bitching. Try to recruit a full team in the offseason and play the game like a man.

You aint shit. You come here and try to tell me I suck because I am having trouble with over boosted CPU owned teams. I have the best fucking roster and the best fucking stuff in that conference and it seems backwards and wrong my team is penalized so heavily simply for having a human owner instead of yet another CPU owner. I realize you don't let facts and logic get in the way of your decision making but you can go back to losing to under leveled underground teams now.

You couldn't beat my peewee squad s even back when you thought you were good. I am a better OC than you, I am a better DC than you, I suck at STs but I am probably superior there as well. Reminisce somewhere else and don't troll my player help thread. If you have something somewhat intelligent regarding the topic then by all means speak up otherwise get your casual ass out of my thread. Thanks!

Originally posted by RiverRat2
And if they are no human owned dots to recruit they should simply quit?
That is exactly what is happening to this game.
Well played GLB, Well played

Um... the OP kinda implied later in the thread that he purchased this team mid-season. Even back in Season 10, anyone would've been hard-pressed to fill up an empty roster team that they purchased mid-season.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
It seems they just don't want human owned teams.

Correction: they want well-run human-owned teams. A team that is purchased mid-season and gets 14 humans added to it is not a well-run human-owned team.

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
I recruited almost all I could find. The team's roster is way better than when i bought the team.

I'm sure you did recruit all you could find. However, when you buy a team and try to recruit mid-season, the pickin's are always gonna be slim. Try again during the off-season when more human dots are available.

As for your team's roster being way better... you replaced 14 CPU dots with 14 human dots, which means you only upgraded 26% of your 54-man roster. That's better, but that's hardly "way better."

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
I really don't think my team is penalized, it's more the other team's CPUs are boosted by a lot.

Think what you want, but the mechanics of the penalties for CPU dots on human-owned teams are pretty well-known at this point and have been explained multiple times by Bort, Catch22, and other Admins in the forums and Q&A threads over time. It's been explained to you again by multiple people in this thread

Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
I expect to be the best team in our conference because I have the best dots period. I recruited to 14 dots and expect my efforts to pay off.

Correction: you have the 14 best dots in the league. Unfortunately for you, your team consists of 54 players, 40 of which are CPU dots. So, you have 14 great dots and 40 horrible ones. 74% of your roster is crap. That's better than 100% crap, but not by much.

You are vastly over-estimating how much better your roster is than the rest of your league. Answer: not all that much better, as you're finding out right now.