Warrior General Games

Originally posted by coachingubigr
Most of us dislike GLB 2 but try it out any ways.

I tried it. I built a player and invested quite a few flex points to build him up. I realized that I didn't enjoy it so I retired him and got like 300 flex points back! Seriously? Pretty much made up my mind to not build another player in that game again.

For me, what is killing this game are effective levels. Back in the early days of GLB, you would see all kinds of builds and some of them worked and others did not. However, it got agents to think creatively about how to build a player and it was interesting. With effective levels, there is a cookie-cutter approach to building a player. There is one way to build a specific archetype and while there can be small variables, if you want the maximum effective builds to attract the really successful teams, you build your player one way. It's just boring to build a player now with effective levels.

Originally posted by PeteTSSF
I tried it. I built a player and invested quite a few flex points to build him up. I realized that I didn't enjoy it so I retired him and got like 300 flex points back! Seriously? Pretty much made up my mind to not build another player in that game again.

For me, what is killing this game are effective levels. Back in the early days of GLB, you would see all kinds of builds and some of them worked and others did not. However, it got agents to think creatively about how to build a player and it was interesting. With effective levels, there is a cookie-cutter approach to building a player. There is one way to build a specific archetype and while there can be small variables, if you want the maximum effective builds to attract the really successful teams, you build your player one way. It's just boring to build a player now with effective levels.



The smart owner/coordinators will see past EL. Most look for effective builds, not effective levels. The EL does not necessarily equate to successful dots.

Haven't been here long, but I don't get why there is no ability to make offensive plays, and why the defensive play editor is so limited. I remember the old old PC game Front Page Football which allowed both, and had a very simple system GLB could emulate. Would allow teams to be creative, and make build diversity have some real worth. There isn't even onside kick ability, lol. Right now its the same plays over & over, and the same builds.

Originally posted by Darkstrand
The #1 reason for game death is extreme time to build...

it should be maybe 2 seasons then plateau.

Right now you wait a year to see if a build works out. It's basically a bonzie tree game

Dude it used to take MUCH longer!!! You should know that based on your signup date!

And the #1 reason is because the game is stale...no changes...NONE AT ALL!!!!

People want to bitch about all the changes we went through but the constant change is what kept the game a challenge and interesting...now it is the same ole shit every time!!!

Originally posted by BoDiddley
Haven't been here long, but I don't get why there is no ability to make offensive plays, and why the defensive play editor is so limited. I remember the old old PC game Front Page Football which allowed both, and had a very simple system GLB could emulate. Would allow teams to be creative, and make build diversity have some real worth. There isn't even onside kick ability, lol. Right now its the same plays over & over, and the same builds.


If you had an Offensive play maker the Defense could never stop them in this game. That is the sim not the real game of football.

Originally posted by stumanroo
Dude it used to take MUCH longer!!! You should know that based on your signup date!

And the #1 reason is because the game is stale...no changes...NONE AT ALL!!!!

People want to bitch about all the changes we went through but the constant change is what kept the game a challenge and interesting...now it is the same ole shit every time!!!

You can get a balance between interesting change and catastrophic change. New formations and plays would be interesting change. The build time could be shorter, the cost could be a little less. Catastrophic change would be something like when they would change the game mechanics and make the dot you had been working on for a year and a half totally ineffective. That was annoying and I am glad the sim has reached a point of stability. But that doesn't mean improvements can't be made and that new stuff can't be added.

Originally posted by BoDiddley
Haven't been here long, but I don't get why there is no ability to make offensive plays, and why the defensive play editor is so limited. I remember the old old PC game Front Page Football which allowed both, and had a very simple system GLB could emulate. Would allow teams to be creative, and make build diversity have some real worth. There isn't even onside kick ability, lol. Right now its the same plays over & over, and the same builds.


The DPC used to be more robust, but got nerfed because Bort insisted on GLB being an offense first game (I wish I could find the specific quote where he said GLB will ALWAYS be an offensive game and not geared toward defense)

Originally posted by MC_Hammer
The DPC used to be more robust, but got nerfed because Bort insisted on GLB being an offense first game (I wish I could find the specific quote where he said GLB will ALWAYS be an offensive game and not geared toward defense)

It's hard to find quotes that you or someone you know made up.

Originally posted by MC_Hammer
The DPC used to be more robust, but got nerfed because Bort insisted on GLB being an offense first game (I wish I could find the specific quote where he said GLB will ALWAYS be an offensive game and not geared toward defense)

Originally posted by Corndog
It's hard to find quotes that you or someone you know made up.


Someone go find Catch so he can weigh in on this

Originally posted by RiverRat2
If you had an Offensive play maker the Defense could never stop them in this game. That is the sim not the real game of football.

This is 100% false... and I will let you know why later.

Originally posted by Jamiam73~Cult~
This is 100% false... and I will let you know why later.

Because you say so? Please give it a rest.

Originally posted by Jamiam73~Cult~
This is 100% false... and I will let you know why later.

He's right.

Mods killed the forums a long time ago, and the forums were the game.

Just check the announcements page: http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/announcement.pl

Just look at announcements made in the past 6 months. When was the last time an upgrade to the game was made? The last time there was a Q&A with Bort? Look at the announcements, mainly start or end of season announcements, GLB2 notifications and other housekeeping items. Nothing that helps move the game forward.

The ownership of this game is focused on other ventures and the flex purchased for this game is not going to improve it, instead, the funds are being used to develop other new games. It's too bad really. This game is good, and could be even better that would have in turn kept a large user base with an ever improving game.

Originally posted by tpaterniti
You can get a balance between interesting change and catastrophic change. New formations and plays would be interesting change. The build time could be shorter, the cost could be a little less. Catastrophic change would be something like when they would change the game mechanics and make the dot you had been working on for a year and a half totally ineffective. That was annoying and I am glad the sim has reached a point of stability. But that doesn't mean improvements can't be made and that new stuff can't be added.

I completely agree!!!

See...Tpat gets it...now go push that through to the upper management!!!!

And there is nothing coming out of the suggestions...not even the simple and DUH type of stuff...like the fact the League Leaders and Team Leaders pages don't even have the same stats in them!!! I mean the structure is already there to pull the info for the League Leaders page but the Team Leaders are the old way...that was suggested mid seasons a few seasons ago and a few Offseasons have rolled by and NOTHING!!!

Have them do SOMETHING with the game...and that would at least get people thinking again.