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Novus
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Originally posted by spindoctor02
You fail to see that there will be enough dots to fill one-and-a-half leagues per season. Plateau lasts 5 seasons. Over the course of a teams time at the uncapped level, there will be 7.5 leagues worth of players. This is plenty to feed WL and the 4 pro leagues, and leave some left over for Casual Pro. This will probably also turn Regional Pro into the D240 league, like people have been arguing in favor of for a while now. Sure, there won't be as much depth, but there won't be a shortage of actual dots.

Now, go ahead and continue posting your dislike for GLB2 in every thread on GLB1. It's sort of your calling card at this point.


The only mention I've made of GLB2 in this thread is to say that if you plan to play GLB2, then it makes sense to keep buying Flex. Try again.

This is about the health of GLB1. And what you're failing to see is that the number of new Rookie dots being created every season is already on a significant decline. 7 seasons ago, when I started the Palookas, there were enough new Rookie dots to fill 6 Rookie leagues plus multiple Rookie Casual leagues. Now there are less than 3 Rookie leagues and only 2 Rookie Casual leagues, and they're not even totally full, which means in the span of 7 seasons, the number of new Rookie dots being created has been cut in half. And I believe this decline in new Rookie dots will continue.

So, 7 seasons from now, there will only be enough new dots entering Plateau to fill one-and-a-half leagues. 8 seasons from now, that number will be even lower. 9 seasons from now, that number will be lower still.

And remember, this is all based on an early-retirement rate of two-thirds -- which may actually be too optimistic, as I explained in my longer post. The actual early-retirement rate is probably higher, which means everything is probably going to actually be worse.
 
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Originally posted by Novus
And I believe this decline in new Rookie dots will continue.



Maybe. But maybe not.

I think that there is good chance that more rookie dots will be created for season 40. Some people probably spent flex on GLB 2 rather than GLB 1 which may have affected the number of rookie dots built for seasons 38 and 39. A good chunk of those agents may well enjoy spending their flex more on this game, ergo more rookie dots in season 40 imo.

 
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Originally posted by lexden11
Maybe. But maybe not.

I think that there is good chance that more rookie dots will be created for season 40. Some people probably spent flex on GLB 2 rather than GLB 1 which may have affected the number of rookie dots built for seasons 38 and 39. A good chunk of those agents may well enjoy spending their flex more on this game, ergo more rookie dots in season 40 imo.



Maybe... but the number of new Rookie dots was already on the decline before GLB2 started.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
 
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It was, but agents have known that there was a new game on the way for quite some time.

My guess is there will be more than 5 Rookie Leagues ( regular and casual ) by the time season 40 starts.
 
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Originally posted by Novus

The only mention I've made of GLB2 in this thread is to say that if you plan to play GLB2, then it makes sense to keep buying Flex. Try again.


My bad. I confused this thread for every other one where you are telling people to stop buying flex. How are people supposed to build rookie dots if they stop buying flex?

If your complaint is that there won't be enough dots to fill the pro leagues in 8+ seasons, shouldn't you be advocating to people to buy flex? At present, your crusade to keep people from buying flex is causing your problem of not enough dots for plateau.
 
Dub J
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9000 cares

sounds like a lot of cares, right?

that is until you break it off so it will flush
 
Dub J
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Originally posted by spindoctor02
You fail to see that there will be enough dots to fill one-and-a-half leagues per season. Plateau lasts 5 seasons. Over the course of a teams time at the uncapped level, there will be 7.5 leagues worth of players. This is plenty to feed WL and the 4 pro leagues, and leave some left over for Casual Pro. This will probably also turn Regional Pro into the D240 league, like people have been arguing in favor of for a while now. Sure, there won't be as much depth, but there won't be a shortage of actual dots.

Now, go ahead and continue posting your dislike for GLB2 in every thread on GLB1. It's sort of your calling card at this point.


stop trollin with that deuce shit

if we cared about the deuce we wouldn't be here

 
Novus
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Originally posted by spindoctor02
How are people supposed to build rookie dots if they stop buying flex?

If your complaint is that there won't be enough dots to fill the pro leagues in 8+ seasons, shouldn't you be advocating to people to buy flex?


If I had selfish motives and just wanted to try to prolong GLB1's life for my own enjoyment, then yes, that's precisely what I'd advocate... and have advocated in the past, actually, including fairly recently.

However, I've recently come to the conclusion that, despite such advocacy from myself and others, the number of new Rookie dots has already dropped to levels that are too low to sustain the game beyond a year from now, and no amount of Flex-buying encouragement from myself or others has been enough to reverse that trend. Since I believe the clock is ticking on GLB1, I can no longer in good conscience encourage people to buy Flex solely for GLB1, since they will not be able to get full value for their money anymore.

I have, however, continued to tell people that if they think they'll enjoy GLB2 and other future Warrior General games, then buying Flex still makes sense. (Perhaps that caveat is why DD continues to be tolerant of my message on the forums, even though I'm actively working against his profit margins at this point.) But buying Flex solely for GLB1 at this point is a fool's errand.
Edited by Novus on Feb 11, 2014 00:08:59
 
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Originally posted by spindoctor02
If your complaint is that there won't be enough dots to fill the pro leagues in 8+ seasons, shouldn't you be advocating to people to buy flex?


I could buy all the Flex I want, but it doesn't really matter if I lose interest in the game.

Seems like Bort and Co. have focused more on GLB2 and will remain that way, and I'm fine with that. Maybe because I haven't spent $20,000 on this game, but whatever. But that means the game will start to decline. What we have right now is as good as it gets. The people that are still here are fine with that, and the people that moved to GLB2 for the most part probably weren't fine with that. A lot more people were not happy with GLB1's result apparently.

I'm not backing up Novus' arguments in any way either, just merely giving my own outlook on the situation. What you're saying is correct, but I'm not sure if enough people are on-board to spend money on a game that is dying. And especially the amount to even fully boost 1 dot for its career, let alone 3-4.
 
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Originally posted by Dub J
stop trollin with that deuce shit

if we cared about the deuce we wouldn't be here


Eh, there's people playing both games, to be honest, and people enjoying both games.

My own opinions on GLB2 are certainly well-known, but they're also irrelevant to the point I'm trying to convey here about the health of GLB1, which was already on the decline before GLB2 started and thus can't solely be blamed on GLB2. So I'm not going to let myself get dragged down that conversational path. This is about the future of GLB1.
 
foshizzel17
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as long as new rookie dots are created every season, there will be plenty of dots to run 4 Pro leagues and WL. it may not be the great teams of past years, but GLB1 wil be around for a while. I know MANY MANY flex buyers that are not impressed with GLB2 and still enjoy GLB1. if the rookie dot #s continue to fall over the next year or so, then i will slowly reduce my flex buying. but that is a long way away imo.


and ive spent thousands of dollars on this game, but have gotten more hours per dollar out of it than any game ever.
Edited by foshizzel17 on Feb 11, 2014 00:21:06
 
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Originally posted by foshizzel17
have gotten more hours per dollar out of it than any game ever.


 
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Originally posted by foshizzel17
have gotten more hours per dollar out of it than any game ever.


Even I have to agree there. The value I've gotten from my past purchases is incredible.
 
foshizzel17
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Originally posted by Novus
Even I have to agree there. The value I've gotten from my past purchases is incredible.


it is the perfect work day time waster. i am biased because i love DCing and love building players. i sit at work and come up with new DPC plays(GIVE ME BACK MY FREEDOM BORT!!!), i build lots of players and i dont follow some strict path. i drunk shop at 3am.....and i love it.

i have never taken this game too seriously, and i never will.
Edited by foshizzel17 on Feb 11, 2014 01:08:44
 
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Originally posted by foshizzel17
it is the perfect work day time waster. i am biased because i love DCing and love building players. i sit at work and come up with new DPC plays(GIVE ME BACK MY FREEDOM BORT!!!), i build lots of players and i dont follow some strict path. i drunk shop at 3am.....and i love it.


And that's why I hope I'm wrong.
 
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