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Originally posted by yello1
how about a receiving HB?

Same.....you don't need 80 vision on any offensive dot tbh (except QB).

Originally posted by Shöcks
uhh no.. Any good fake HB has 80vis

Nope

just 2 off the marketplace..

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4317670
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4371272

poorly built, but they have the right idea.

How many people here have used a 50vis fake HB and a 80vis fake HB?

I will tell you the 80vis fakes considerably better.

Did you seriously just post two dots that have done nothing in their career or play in at least natty pro as examples of how it works? The only time they did anything was against CPU teams. I'm sure there is a dot somewhere with 22 vision that lit up a CPU team

Originally posted by jpjn94
Did you seriously just post two dots that have done nothing in their career or play in at least natty pro as examples of how it works? The only time they did anything was against CPU teams. I'm sure there is a dot somewhere with 22 vision that lit up a CPU team



All the dots that made me start believing in 80 vis for fake HBs are buried so deep in PLFT that I can't even find them...

ik their was one ESPECIALLY, I'm not sure if it was S35->S36 or S36->S37 offseason that got recruited pretty quickly... Amazing fake build, and replays... 80vis

You act like I pulled the number 80 out of the air lol...

Something obviously had to have convinced me p well for me to declare

Originally posted by Shöcks
uhh no.. Any good fake HB has 80vis

And I would like to make a slight modification to my statement.

The BEST fake Hbs have ~80 vis.

Originally posted by Shöcks
And I would like to make a slight modification to my statement.

The BEST fake Hbs have ~80 vis.

We're still waiting for you to post one. We aren't interested in you repeating yourself post after post.

Originally posted by Dustin.
We're still waiting for you to post one. We aren't interested in you repeating yourself post after post.

Wait why are you in here?

Do you even know how to answer the OP?

Originally posted by whodey08


Facepalm All you want. A higher vision HB will fake more than a low vision HB, I find it ridiculous you are even trying to dispute it.

Okay let's watch your 80 Vision HB in action...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2397169&pbp_id=5866412
Lots of movement, no different than 40 Vision and not one fake triggered

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2397169&pbp_id=5867129
Juke fires here and nothing special really

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2397169&pbp_id=5867386
Nice movement, again nothing different than 40 Vision, Spin fires

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2357304&pbp_id=3689216
Actually played against my team, didn't rush once, 80 Vision didn't help his route running ability there

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2429345&pbp_id=7088747
Some movement, no SAs trigger

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2397170&pbp_id=6174561
Great movement against a CPU team and no SAs trigger

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2397170&pbp_id=6174801
Decent movement, but couldn't fake the CPU CB



Still haven't seen Head Fake in a replay for him and he didn't play against real teams. The point I'm making in this thread is I've built more HBs than you've built dots. 80 Vision is too much, you won't notice a difference between 40 Vision and 80 Vision so why put that many points there?

I showed how a 50 Vision HB looks just like a 40 Vision HB. A 60 Vision HB looks the same, and so would a 70 Vision. Feel free to recruit who you want, but you're wrong. The dumber part of this thread is Elusive HBs are not worth making. Power HBs dominate this SIM.

Only posted those CBs to show build examples o.o

Here is my scat FB (built like an elusive HB) in Semi Pro Elite who jukes to get open and head fakes a few guys for a 60yd gain and he has 48 vision: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2459644&pbp_id=2383025

Originally posted by whodey08
Here is my scat FB (built like an elusive HB) who jukes to get open and head fakes a few guys for a 60yd gain and he has 48 vision: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2459644&pbp_id=2383025

Means nothing?

Originally posted by Shöcks
Means nothing?

It means he can head fake and juke without having 80 vision

Originally posted by whodey08
It means he can head fake and juke without having 80 vision

Never said dots can't head fake and juke without 80 vision. wtf?