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Well this was a good talk. reported I guess jd, as I'm not sure why you cannot stay civil even in this forum.

Don't worry, I think you still accomplished your mission, when new peeps come and have build questions you (and others) can just point them to the link in your signature

Originally posted by jdbolick

It is not possible to use skill points to take anything above a natural 10. For some Special Abilities, and especially favored ones, it is extremely valuable to get those above 10. You may not realize that Bort has said that favored / penalized adjustments come after diminishing returns. So that means having 12 or 13 in a Special Ability will get adjusted down to something like 11.67 or 12.5 (hypotheticals), but the favored bonus will then kick it up to something like 14 or 15. Because of that, I would advise any power back to get a piece of Power Through AEQ/CEQ since we know that SA is awesome.

http://wwwi.goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4743673&page=1#43634179

I'd prefer if you didn't come into threads and post information that you know is incorrect (notice you responded around the linked post). Favored bonuses do indeed face diminishing returns when the SA goes above 10.

He can't respond, Wise. You should know this since you reported him. lol

Bort actually corrected himself after jd's post that you linked, Wise.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=4784083&page=5#44198592

Also, on the 3rd +% piece stacked. Note: this is only particularly slam-dunk relevant for players that only really care about 1 roll (pure blockers, pure possession guys, pure power backs).

Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
If you can use math to make the argument that 2 str+blk+agi leads to > 3% boost in a roll, I'll admit I'm wrong....

Lets pretend that they are only 3 attributes that effect blocking (str+blk+agi) and no SAs. this is of course wrong as other attributes+VAs+SAs effect your blocking score but those other things (since they get multiplied by that +3% AE assuming they aren't +% VAs themselves) actually make +3% more valueable.

Thus by ignoring all those things we have a BETTER shot at proving your argument, which I'm actively trying to prove...
Lets say 158 str, 96 blk, 86 agi. Lets give each attribute a 1:1 ratio in the blk score (keep in mind given all that we've thrown out, and the fact we're giving all 3 of these an even score when some obv are gonna be worth less than others is BAD for +3% AE arguement).

So anyhow, 158+96+86 = 340.

Lets take 2 away from each and multiple it by 1.03% (that 3rd piece of +% AE which is 3%)

154+94+84 = 334 * 1.03 = 344.

So even while taking beyond redicoulous assumptions to help the argument AGAINST +3% AE, I've still proven that +3% AE is worth more. Take into account that +2 str/blk/agi is costing more than 24 SP every day of the week (closer to 40 at least) and the fact that multiplying 2ndary attributes + SA + VA, along with of course the fact that each of str+blk+agi isn't going to scale nearly so strong in your total score, its a certifiable, provable, easy, logical, slam dunk that a 3rd +3% AE is worth more than 24 SP in attributes for olinemen.

Unlocked. On topic and constructive please

So can we sticky this?

No, too much is debatable.

It's already in the [LINKS] sticky

Thats legit

So who's build strategy is the right one?

Everyones and no ones