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dahman32
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Originally posted by CyberNinja
Bounced off HB into SS, SS deflected


Originally posted by jdbolick

This is what happened. When one defender deflects a ball and another then touches it afterward, the last defender gets credited with the deflection in the pbp even if they were far away from the initial contact.


All that said, the HB had no "dropped catches" in the game

So

Good guesses either way, good guesses

When I find the replay of the pass that was intercepted and basically veered off trajectory with no other dot around... right to the defender, I shall post it when I find it as I wonder what deflected that one... maybe a bird, yep.

Probably the affect of VAs and SAs, but again these are all guesses
 
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Originally posted by dahman32
All that said, the HB had no "dropped catches" in the game

Because it was counted as a deflection. What part of "when two defenders deflect a pass only the last one gets credit for it" did you not understand?
 
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Why would a Receiver "Deflect" a Pass coming to him, lol? Unless like in real life, It was too high and he doesn't want the Defender to Intercept it. Like I said, I wasn't complaining or whining, I just thought it was funny to me.
 
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Originally posted by sehorn31
I just thought it was funny to me.


ditto

smh @ folks getting so defensive about us laughing at these things.... whew, hilarious.

why so srs?
 
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Originally posted by sehorn31
Why would a Receiver "Deflect" a Pass coming to him, lol? Unless like in real life, It was too high and he doesn't want the Defender to Intercept it. Like I said, I wasn't complaining or whining, I just thought it was funny to me.

When two events happen in succession on a contested pass, only the last gets recorded in the pbp or box score. Had the SS not been around then the pbp would have said the pass was dropped and the HB would have been assigned a dropped pass in the box score. Because the SS deflected the ball after the failed catch attempt, that's what got recorded.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

When two events happen in succession on a contested pass, only the last gets recorded in the pbp or box score. Had the SS not been around then the pbp would have said the pass was dropped and the HB would have been assigned a dropped pass in the box score. Because the SS deflected the ball after the failed catch attempt, that's what got recorded.


Basically, the HB didn't drop the pass, but the HB dropped the pass, but didn't.
lolReplayexplanations
 
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Originally posted by dahman32
All that said, the HB had no "dropped catches" in the game

So

Good guesses either way, good guesses

When I find the replay of the pass that was intercepted and basically veered off trajectory with no other dot around... right to the defender, I shall post it when I find it as I wonder what deflected that one... maybe a bird, yep.

Probably the affect of VAs and SAs, but again these are all guesses


Found it
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2207750&pbp_id=8747753

Long Reach I suppose?
 
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Originally posted by dahman32
Found it
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2207750&pbp_id=8747753

Long Reach I suppose?


Again... the text tells you what happened. The graphics are an approximate visual representation of what happened.

Why approximate? Well, for one thing, do you really think the football is as big as the players? The graphics make it look that way, but that's clearly not the case. But the ball has to LOOK bigger than it actually is so that you can see it.

I also assume the dots appear smaller than the actual players, because if the dots were bigger, they'd be more likely to overlap with each other and would be harder to tell apart from each other. That right there would explain why you sometimes see the ball do funky things without appearing to be "touched" by the player. It was touched by the player... but on the graphics the player appears smaller than he actually is.

And to respond to your inevitable follow-up...

Originally posted by dahman32
Yea, it's pretty much BS when it is claimed that you can't rely on the replays... yet use replays to determine bugs in the game.
Ex: "please post more replays and examples of this"


Anybody who says "don't rely on the replays" is incorrect. What they should say is, "if there is a conflict between what the text says and what the graphics appear to show, the text is correct." There's a subtle but important difference between the two statements.

The graphics are limited... but they are the only way to show the approximate locations of all 22 players and the ball at any given moment, aside from cracking open the replay code and reading through it, line by line, which is way too time-consuming for bug-hunting purposes. I wish the graphics were more accurate, but it's better than nothing at all.

Think of it like weather radar... it can't accurately show you right down the city-block level whether it's raining or not (despite what your local news station claims about their Super-Extremo-Awesome 9000 Doppler SUPREME system), but it can at least show you that there's a big blob of heavy rain heading in your general direction. That's still more useful than not having the radar at all, right?

So, that's why Bugs Mods want to see the visual replays on bugs... it's not 100% accurate, but it's what we've got, and it's better than nothing.
Edited by Novus on Jun 9, 2013 17:32:59
 
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Originally posted by dahman32
Found it
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2207750&pbp_id=8747753

Long Reach I suppose?

Dots have a radius at which they can attempt to catch (or intercept) a pass. Once they complete the catch, the ball is centered on the dot. The point at which the trajectory of the ball changes is the point at which the interception was made.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Dots have a radius at which they can attempt to catch (or intercept) a pass. Once they complete the catch, the ball is centered on the dot. The point at which the trajectory of the ball changes is the point at which the interception was made.


 
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Originally posted by coachingubigr
Fucking magnets, how do they work?


And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed

Better Nate than lever.
 
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Originally posted by DONKEIDIC
And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed

Better Nate than lever.


What?
 
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Originally posted by Black Peter
The replay is not actually representative of the play.

Didn't we learn that ages and ages ago?

get with the program! Sheesh!


 
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Originally posted by sehorn31
What?


If you have never heard this, you should. Everyone deserves a good laugh now and then.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs

My reference was to 1:50.
Edited by DONKEIDIC on Jun 10, 2013 12:23:13
 
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Originally posted by sehorn31
What?


Obviously, he means it's better to get a big tough guy named Nate to lift a heavy box instead of lifting it yourself with a lever.

Wait, what? O_o
 
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