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bhall43
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
It could be done with some outside the box thinking. Basically limit offensive playbooks to x number of plays and give teams x number of created plays per season, drawing a deadline for created plays for a given season around the same time as the trade deadline. That way even though the plays a team were using would be unique to them (or many would be), they would be limited to a finite amount that as a DC you could scout. This would also remove some of the vanilla from GLB as well since teams could develop more of an identity than they can now.


It would get pretty bad. There are several ways I could break the coverage system in my head already where your only option is to either sack me or pray.
 
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I'd be happy being able to simply choose what counts as "successful" play in the AI
 
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Originally posted by Staz
I'd be happy being able to simply choose what counts as "successful" play in the AI


that may be the best possible thing to put at the very top of the GLB "to do" list, for both offense and defense.
 
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meh
 
toobad4u_00
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Originally posted by Robbnva
the TE screen we have now is a horrible play


seems realistic to me then.
 
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Originally posted by Staz
I'd be happy being able to simply choose what counts as "successful" play in the AI


wow. actually something sensible. You must speak no more. We will not have sensibilities.
 
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Originally posted by tpaterniti
It could be done with some outside the box thinking. Basically limit offensive playbooks to x number of plays and give teams x number of created plays per season, drawing a deadline for created plays for a given season around the same time as the trade deadline. That way even though the plays a team were using would be unique to them (or many would be), they would be limited to a finite amount that as a DC you could scout. This would also remove some of the vanilla from GLB as well since teams could develop more of an identity than they can now.

So let's say you could make 10 created plays a season and your playbook could be 20 or 25 plays max. Plays Plays would have to be made by the trading deadline. If you deemed it necessary, you could stipulate that created plays were visible to opponents during scouting reports.

It's not even remotely realistic to expect DCs to create a set of plays and a DAI for each opponent.
 
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There is absolutely 0 chance of an OPC ever being in the game. Let's just nix that one right now. And for the expanded placement of dots like the play I linked on the twitter account, those will be for preset plays only because it will allow us to "control" the situations and handling whereas we could not do that for the 1000's of possible variations that users could come up with.
 
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Originally posted by Catch22
And for the expanded placement of dots like the play I linked on the twitter account, those will be for preset plays only because it will allow us to "control" the situations and handling whereas we could not do that for the 1000's of possible variations that users could come up with.

Except that Bort rarely "controlled" the pre-defined blitz locations. How many seasons was bunch-spread dominating? How many seasons was my ROLB delay not blocked properly? How long did it take the safety-OT blitz to free the DE? I guess you could say that even though it took 4+ seasons in all those cases that they were eventually addressed, but the point is that there's always something else. The only things handicapping the DPC achieved was to make defenses less creative and neuter blitzing LBs.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

Except that Bort rarely "controlled" the pre-defined blitz locations. How many seasons was bunch-spread dominating? How many seasons was my ROLB delay not blocked properly? How long did it take the safety-OT blitz to free the DE? I guess you could say that even though it took 4+ seasons in all those cases that they were eventually addressed, but the point is that there's always something else. The only things handicapping the DPC achieved was to make defenses less creative and neuter blitzing LBs.


Sir, I am going to have to ask you to limit yourself to 1 question at a time. Considering you probably know the answers better than Catch or Bort either one I don't think that is too much to ask. Thank you.
Edited by toobad4u_00 on May 24, 2013 08:08:04
 
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Originally posted by Novus
I'd be down with that... but you'd really need to take the limits off the DPC while you were at it, or at least set it up with the same limits as the OPC in terms of playbook size and deadlines and what-not.


Agreed
 
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Honestly the game should go ahead and have an OPC. I mean, there's already nothing to do for anyone that isn't a coordinator.

 
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Originally posted by kurieg
Honestly the game should go ahead and have an OPC. I mean, there's already nothing to do for anyone that isn't a coordinator.

An OPC that has no bearing on the game itself wouldn't be a bad idea. In fact, it could be a pretty cool distraction. Catch22 could run contests where a couple of user-created plays he likes each season would be sent to Bort for testing, and if they're not too overpowered then they could be added to the general playbook, either adding to the existing plays or maybe replacing a couple. Then again, I imagine it would soon get frustrating to draw up all these plays and never see most of them in action.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
Then again, I imagine it would soon get frustrating to draw up all these plays and never see most of them in action.


Yeah, but we're used to that from the Suggestions forum.

Seriously, though, that's a pretty good idea too. I don't think an OPC as commonly suggested would automatically kill the game, but the implementation would be everything... if you don't get it just right, then boom, defense dies and takes the game with it. So if we can't have an OPC, jdbolick's idea would be the next-best thing.
 
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They already are drawing up new plays and testing them out.

https://twitter.com/thehazyone/status/337975326124670977/photo/1
Edited by bhall43 on May 24, 2013 11:23:01
 
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