Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Pen15
he's saying you guys are inconsistent in endorsing using 2 or 3 break tackle SAs while realizing that one of those SA's success, the strongest one, makes the other SAs moot a large percentage of the time.

it's 1 SA and higher attributes, or 2-3 SAs and lower attributes, and frankly I'm also curious why the experts opt for the second choice given that no-SA broken tackles should also be a large percentage of any PB's broken tackles

Having Power Thru alone =/= the same success. You want every possible chance to break tackles in that tree. Now if you want to talk spin I would agree people overrate that SA for a power back as I have seen plenty of examples of PB's breaking more tackles without spin.

Originally posted by Pen15
he's saying you guys are inconsistent in endorsing using 2 or 3 break tackle SAs while realizing that one of those SA's success, the strongest one, makes the other SAs moot a large percentage of the time.

it's 1 SA and higher attributes, or 2-3 SAs and lower attributes, and frankly I'm also curious why the experts opt for the second choice given that no-SA broken tackles should also be a large percentage of any PB's broken tackles
I probably wouldn't bother with LtS if I went over 10 in Power Through, just as I don't invest in Head Fake if I went over 10 in Juke. But it has nothing to do with a bug.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
Broken tackle for the listed dot, for all S34 games (preseason/postseason incl.)

Broken Tackles
No SA - 39 (26 normal tackle attempts, 13 diving tackle attempts)
LTS - 8 (4 normal, 4 diving)
Stiff Arm - 13 (6 normal, 7 diving)
Power Thru - 222 (104 normal, 118 diving)


How did you compile these stats?
Script? If so, could you give name so I can search for it please ?

Originally posted by Bane

How did you compile these stats?
Script? If so, could you give name so I can search for it please ?


I believe he do it manually.

Originally posted by jdbolick

I probably wouldn't bother with LtS if I went over 10 in Power Through, just as I don't invest in Head Fake if I went over 10 in Juke. But it has nothing to do with a bug.

I feel like head fake still fires more than LTS does in comparison with PT and juke at 10 each. Maybe it's just me though.

Originally posted by aaasahi
I believe he do it manually.


unpossible !

Originally posted by aaasahi
I believe he do it manually.




http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/109346

Excellent script for getting that firm grasp on a lot of the break tackle interactions. Note: It does hang on a certain games (unsure why) so sometimes you have to find the culprit.

Cool thanks, looks very informative !

Exactly why I didnt touch stiff arm or LtS past what I needed to get 10 powerthru
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2527628

and I still see LtS and Stiff arm ~5 times a season

Originally posted by HATEMOBSTER
I feel like head fake still fires more than LTS does in comparison with PT and juke at 10 each. Maybe it's just me though.

this

Head fake was pretty terrible on my fake/break back (he had 8 Head Fake). Juke was the only fake worth investing in if I could rewind time. Not sure if Blount had similar findings, but builds were pretty similar (Blount having more strength/agility but less speed/carrying).

Originally posted by Pen15
he's saying you guys are inconsistent in endorsing using 2 or 3 break tackle SAs while realizing that one of those SA's success, the strongest one, makes the other SAs moot a large percentage of the time.

it's 1 SA and higher attributes, or 2-3 SAs and lower attributes, and frankly I'm also curious why the experts opt for the second choice given that no-SA broken tackles should also be a large percentage of any PB's broken tackles

I hate to say this but I feel like the experts opt for 2nd choice because they have opted for the 2nd choice.

Unless there are builds out there with 10+ PT that are using LTS a reasonable amount (I haven't seen any first hand) then LTS is a waste. I think that's buggy. An entire SA group gets turned off if the top one is 10.

As far as HF&Juke go. In the backs I've examined HF still fires a significant amount. Whether or not head fake firing really matters since the recovery time for a defender is so low is another question. I'm trying to decide if I'm going to bring HF up this offseason myself. Probably not