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Originally posted by yello1
What has to happen but what they will not do is some sort of Skill Point Cap across the league with a penalty if violated.


OH MY!
 
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Originally posted by Dub J
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I am now coordinating and I want every game to require some effort

the best coordinators still only try come playoffs

as long as there is a wide difference in coordinating ability there will be wide gaps in games

-1 to OP - I like this system better than what we had


CFO isn't coordinating. And at least half the teams you are associated with in the minors have losing records.


I am OCing in National Pro
 
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Originally posted by Dub J
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What good is changing a name? If you keep the current regions in Nat Pro, and make it a straight line vs. pyramid, you still would need 4 leagues per age group and yet there are not even 32 teams in the Semi-Pro age group that are competitive with one another (using Bort's definition of competitive i.e. within 70 points)


Blame plateau. I warned against this before plateau was implemented. Way too many high level dots just sitting around in D-leagues or shitty Reg Pro leagues. Would be better for this game if they were retired and the flex used to create new dots.

Going to elite/comp/non-comp is just another mistake that was made that no one wants to own up to. Back in the day if you really wanted 16 competitive games you kept your team together and made it to the top. I always stayed away from coordinating at the Pro/WL level for this reason. I like a few games I have to seriously game plan for and the playoffs with the rest of the games being winnable (at the least) to rent-a-wins.

I think it's fucking hilarious that some people swayed Bort to come up with this shit in the guise of making the lower to mid levels matter. Many of the same people I've seen that say they wanted more competitive games back then are the same people that don't pay any mind to their team until it hits Pro. It's ridiculous to see teams I beat (when I've had a team in elite) by 100 in the tournament win gold while my team gets knocked out in the second round.

To those who think winning gold in elite means more than winning gold in comp or non-comp to recruits...lolno. All recruits see are trophies on the mantle and don't give a shit where it was won. All this set-up has done is reward teams for gaming the league structure and punish teams for putting together a solid roster and putting together nice AIs.




not everyone agrees with you - I don't - I like that my players on teams in the lower levels where each game could be competitive

gettin1/2 your games handed to you so you only have 8 games that are competitive is a waste of your playing time IMO
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
I am OCing in National Pro


Nat Pro isn't minors.

 
Dub J
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Originally posted by reddogrw
not everyone agrees with you - I don't - I like that my players on teams in the lower levels where each game could be competitive

gettin1/2 your games handed to you so you only have 8 games that are competitive is a waste of your playing time IMO


Go buy a team and run the O, D, and STs because you can't find a decent coordinator and then see what you think.




 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
not everyone agrees with you - I don't - I like that my players on teams in the lower levels where each game could be competitive

gettin1/2 your games handed to you so you only have 8 games that are competitive is a waste of your playing time IMO


Well I agree with Dub and I am speaking from experience right now. Having elite leagues in minor leagues is stupid. I don't like having to worry about game planning every day, I got a life and a job, while GLB is fun, I don't live on this website 24/7 like some apparently
 
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Originally posted by Mike Martz
Originally posted by reddogrw

not everyone agrees with you - I don't - I like that my players on teams in the lower levels where each game could be competitive

gettin1/2 your games handed to you so you only have 8 games that are competitive is a waste of your playing time IMO


Well I agree with Dub and I am speaking from experience right now. Having elite leagues in minor leagues is stupid. I don't like having to worry about game planning every day, I got a life and a job, while GLB is fun, I don't live on this website 24/7 like some apparently


then just lose the games you don't plan for

you think you are entitled to win 5-6 walkovers walk season? really? not everyone can win 75% of their games - some teams have to lose too

and how is 15-30 minutes every 2 days to game plan that big of a deal? I can understand if you are trying to coordinate more than 1 team, but 1 team isn't that time consuming
Edited by reddogrw on Apr 14, 2013 09:37:06
Edited by reddogrw on Apr 14, 2013 09:31:13
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
then just lose the games you don't plan for

you think you are entitled to win 5-6 walkovers walk season? really? not everyone can win 75% of their games - some teams have to lose too

and how is 15-30 minutes every 2 days to game plan that big of a deal? I can understand if you are trying to coordinate more than 1 team, but 1 team isn't that time consuming


Where did I say I was entitled to win games??

and btw how would spending 15-30 mins gameplanning work when your team gets blown out most of the time
 
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Originally posted by Mike Martz
Where did I say I was entitled to win games??

and btw how would spending 15-30 mins gameplanning work when your team gets blown out most of the time


I don't game plan at all, pretty competitive and make playoffs.
 
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You actually got bitch slapped in the first round after limping into the playoffs after losing 3 of your last 4 games.

 
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Originally posted by reddogrw
then just lose the games you don't plan for

you think you are entitled to win 5-6 walkovers walk season? really? not everyone can win 75% of their games - some teams have to lose too

and how is 15-30 minutes every 2 days to game plan that big of a deal? I can understand if you are trying to coordinate more than 1 team, but 1 team isn't that time consuming



Originally posted by Dub J
Go buy a team and run the O, D, and STs because you can't find a decent coordinator and then see what you think.






 
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tl;dr but from what I did see we've apparently come full circle...not enough competitive games to now having too many lololol.
Edited by Greywolfmeb on Apr 14, 2013 12:14:11
 
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Originally posted by Dub J
You actually got bitch slapped in the first round after limping into the playoffs after losing 3 of your last 4 games.



Are you referring to my two point loss to the League Champions and loss to the Season 33 Tourney Champion? Both games that meant nothing since I had already locked up a playoff spot. Sadly I matched up my first playoff game against one of the best teams and a WL caliber Agent who has been our nemesis at this level. Hey, didn't I play your team season 32, what was the result of that one?
Edited by Dr. E on Apr 14, 2013 16:10:14
 
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Looked at your S32 schedule and didn't see any team I own or even associate with on your schedule, tbh.

 
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Originally posted by Dub J
Looked at your S32 schedule and didn't see any team I own or even associate with on your schedule, tbh.



LOL. of course not. But if you go look at the league forum I'm sure you will see a comment from me about all the oop runs you made during our match and of course, followed by your reply.
 
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