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I guess it depends when and where you stop adding SPs to your attributes. You certainly can't say that you can do your light training whenever.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
I guess it depends when and where you stop adding SPs to your attributes. You certainly can't say that you can do your light training whenever.
No, but there are spots where light training actually gives good value. For instance, in the late 80s/early 90s when 30% enhanced the +3% is not bad. There also spots during the building process where it would be slightly advantageous to stop multi-training momentarily and do something else like light training before going back to multi-training. No one takes training to the insane complexity it is possible to use in order to maximize a dot. It would take such intense micromanagement that I can't imagine it being fun.

Nah it's lotsa fun, they aren't going to micromanage themselves! I don't mean things like light training to get closer to 100% training to cap, or waiting for level ups or something that's pretty basic. For most of my builds, at least, I'm not sure I could advantageously work in a large block of light training any time before the end of the build or pretty near to it.

And that's on a 3 AEQ, would be even harder on a 4 AEQ

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
I don't mean things like light training to get closer to 100% training to cap, or waiting for level ups or something that's pretty basic.
Neither do I.

Jd what does any of this have to do with not boosting from 1 to 4? What you are describing could just as easily be done by boosting. The overwhelmingly huge majority of GLB does the main chunk of their light training at the end of the build after multi training.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
Jd what does any of this have to do with not boosting from 1 to 4? What you are describing could just as easily be done by boosting. The overwhelmingly huge majority of GLB does the main chunk of their light training at the end of the build after multi training.
You said that someone should always boost to 4 because not doing so means more of your multi-training going on lower caps. I pointed out that you don't have to save all your light training for the end of the build, so what you said was not accurate. Dots that don't boost to 4 will be slightly better than those who do, but achieving that is a lot more complicated.

Originally posted by jdbolick

You said that someone should always boost to 4 because not doing so means more of your multi-training going on lower caps. I pointed out that you don't have to save all your light training for the end of the build, so what you said was not accurate. Dots that don't boost to 4 will be potentially slightly better than those who do, but achieving that is a lot more complicated.

FYP, you have to know what to do and where to do it for it to be true. I assume.

Sure.

Originally posted by jdbolick

No, but there are spots where light training actually gives good value. For instance, in the late 80s/early 90s when 30% enhanced the +3% is not bad. There also spots during the building process where it would be slightly advantageous to stop multi-training momentarily and do something else like light training before going back to multi-training. No one takes training to the insane complexity it is possible to use in order to maximize a dot. It would take such intense micromanagement that I can't imagine it being fun.

While true, god that would suck, you'd certainly have to have only a few dots to have such a detailed plan. I feel like in the end, it all just about washes out. You may end up with a few extra SPs here or there... but ultimately builds have been pushed to their pinnacle. It's more about getting team strategy matching AI to builds /VAs to AI is the biggest competitive advantage to be gained.

Originally posted by jdbolick

No, but there are spots where light training actually gives good value. For instance, in the late 80s/early 90s when 30% enhanced the +3% is not bad. There also spots during the building process where it would be slightly advantageous to stop multi-training momentarily and do something else like light training before going back to multi-training. No one takes training to the insane complexity it is possible to use in order to maximize a dot. It would take such intense micromanagement that I can't imagine it being fun.

Agree 100%

Originally posted by slashxtreme
While true, god that would suck, you'd certainly have to have only a few dots to have such a detailed plan. I feel like in the end, it all just about washes out. You may end up with a few extra SPs here or there... but ultimately builds have been pushed to their pinnacle. It's more about getting team strategy matching AI to builds /VAs to AI is the biggest competitive advantage to be gained.

agreed. so hard to do unless youre in a network.

Originally posted by slashxtreme
While true, god that would suck, you'd certainly have to have only a few dots to have such a detailed plan. I feel like in the end, it all just about washes out. You may end up with a few extra SPs here or there... but ultimately builds have been pushed to their pinnacle. It's more about getting team strategy matching AI to builds /VAs to AI is the biggest competitive advantage to be gained.
Plus, knowing proper attributes targets for your build is so much more important than build efficiency. I was helping one guy who builds pretty well but consistently left stamina short, and it cost him performance.

Yeah nobody does that, I doubt anybody here has used all of their light training advantageously at a time significantly sooner than end build. Even still I don't think it is possible to completely negate the effect I am talking about.

The point is that by intentionally not boosting to 4, you are forfeiting your desire to be competitive before plateau, and you lose a couple VA points. But you also have to be cognizant about your training, and will almost certainly lose some of your early gains later on even if you are very careful. I have several dots in this situation that will hit plateau in a few days and neither those dots nor the ones I VPB impress me much more than dots I boost to 4.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan


The point is that by intentionally not boosting to 4, you are forfeiting your desire to be competitive before plateau

Not necessarily true.

I see lots of level 40s that are built better than level 42s