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Baustin
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Originally posted by aaasahi
Here is an example that you don't need using 15 BT to convert 1 sp and can still get 49 by initial 15 sp


But I don't know how to copy it, seems you need good luck.


I'd guess this dot was created at rollover. You get 2 extra TP that way.
 
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Originally posted by Baustin
I'd guess this dot was created at rollover. You get 2 extra TP that way.


You can't make dot during rollover.
 
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Originally posted by aaasahi
You can't make dot during rollover.


Of course you can. It's the only time I do it.

You get 2 extra TP if you create a dot within about the first 15 minutes after rollover starts.

I posted about it in the Bugs forum several seasons ago. Bort knows about it, and doesn't care.
Edited by Baustin on Mar 24, 2013 11:54:30
Edited by Baustin on Mar 24, 2013 11:42:01
 
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fuck you guys. just did the whole boost once, cap, boost twice method with both my new DEs. im sticking with them.

i hate this game.
 
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Originally posted by Bane
is that implying to buy a SP with BT's?

If so, I fully agree

It is good to get to that 1st cap before ANY boost if possible, so worth the 15BT early on in a build


 
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Originally posted by aaasahi
You didn't get the point, why I post this player.....
http://aaasahi.myweb.hinet.net/GLB/breakthrough.JPG
It's a dot could reach 49.0 without boost and don't need to convert BT for SP.
And it's not follow bolick's way.XD


Okay, I misunderstood you then. So, he got to 49.0 naturally... no boosts, no extra SPs bought with BTs.

Hmm... only thing I can think of that would make it possible is if he got really lucky with the training variances. Full-on training breakthroughs aren't possible, of course, but the amount of your actual training-percentage-gain can vary a little bit above or below what the training screen shows you. If you got lucky on most of your early training rolls and always had variances that were a little bit above, I could see it adding up to a 49-natural. But holy cow, you'd have to have quite a run of good luck for that.
 
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Wow, I didn't expect my two questions to start a discussion that big. I made an error in reasoning about my QB's situation: If I am at 32 throwing and have 15 SP, 1 additional SP bought for BT won't do the trick. What I did now is boost once, cap throwing and boost twice again, after that, I used the BT to enhance my throwing training to 30% and I'm going to intense train it for the next time. He's now at Lvl 4/5 and 199.03 SP value. I didn't create the LB from my OP yet, as I pondered about going LB or CB, but I'll stick with the CB for now.

Thank you to all you theorycrafters for dissecting my problem that precisely and giving me some impulses, it is much appreciated. Have fun in season 34!
 
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Originally posted by QB1993
Have fun in season 34!


You havent seen your dots perform yet

 
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Originally posted by QB1993
I didn't create the LB from my OP yet, as I pondered about going LB or CB, but I'll stick with the CB for now.


Suuuuuuuuuuure. Smart way to cover yourself. We believe ya.

But seriously, glad we could help ya.
 
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Originally posted by Novus
Okay, I misunderstood you then. So, he got to 49.0 naturally... no boosts, no extra SPs bought with BTs.

Hmm... only thing I can think of that would make it possible is if he got really lucky with the training variances. Full-on training breakthroughs aren't possible, of course, but the amount of your actual training-percentage-gain can vary a little bit above or below what the training screen shows you. If you got lucky on most of your early training rolls and always had variances that were a little bit above, I could see it adding up to a 49-natural. But holy cow, you'd have to have quite a run of good luck for that.


You don't think i got a lucky breakthrough?
 
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Originally posted by aaasahi
You don't think i got a lucky breakthrough?


didnt they get rid of breakthroughs before day 48 for your first season?
 
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
didnt they get rid of breakthroughs before day 48 for your first season?


They did. There was a bug opened last season where this was first identified. Bort ruled on the issue but its still being discussed. Official opinion at this point is that its due to training variances but that could change if/when Bort checks one other area of the code.
 
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Originally posted by AirMcMVP
They did. There was a bug opened last season where this was first identified. Bort ruled on the issue but its still being discussed. Official opinion at this point is that its due to training variances but that could change if/when Bort checks one other area of the code.

Actually this happened since auto va assign system online.
Before that I don't notice this strange thing.
And this season I finally remember to male pic to report.

 
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