Definitely for the most part terrible here. A couple of the ones JD mentioned as not bad are ok in certain scouting positions but otherwise terrible. Add in all WR screens currently, the FB cross screen, Quick Routes (SB formation), SB Big HB Screens (I think they are terrible), 4 Wide Hooks (spread), HB Flat (SG), Comebacks (5WR), 5 Wide Hooks (5WR)
Originally posted by bhall43 Definitely for the most part terrible here. A couple of the ones JD mentioned as not bad are ok in certain scouting positions but otherwise terrible. Add in all WR screens currently, the FB cross screen, Quick Routes (SB formation), SB Big HB Screens (I think they are terrible), 4 Wide Hooks (spread), HB Flat (SG), Comebacks (5WR), 5 Wide Hooks (5WR)
SB big hb screens and 5WR Hooks and Comebacks are pretty good low level plays though tbh
Originally posted by KingCheez SB big hb screens and 5WR Hooks and Comebacks are pretty good low level plays though tbh
I don't like the SB Big HB screens at higher levels because they are far less competent HB screens than any of the others and the blocking for them is pretty much shit. I notice this a lot when I am scouting how terrible it is that people overuse those 2 screens. Maybe its better at the lower levels due to incompetent d players, but at the higher levels I think people are wasting time with them imo.
5 WR Hooks and Comebacks is a sack play against a good blitzing defense. Again a high level thing.
Originally posted by bhall43 I don't like the SB Big HB screens at higher levels because they are far less competent HB screens than any of the others and the blocking for them is pretty much shit. I notice this a lot when I am scouting how terrible it is that people overuse those 2 screens. Maybe its better at the lower levels due to incompetent d players, but at the higher levels I think people are wasting time with them imo.
5 WR Hooks and Comebacks is a sack play against a good blitzing defense. Again a high level thing.
Screens work at lower levels because of over pursuit caused by so much speed and so little agility/vision.
Originally posted by Dr. E shame too, it has such potential.
I swear, before progressions, when you could just set the target, you could throw this to the FB, and it killed Then Bort lumped it in with all the other screens, and you couldn't change it off the HB.
Originally posted by Baustin I swear, before progressions, when you could just set the target, you could throw this to the FB, and it killed Then Bort lumped it in with all the other screens, and you couldn't change it off the HB. You could never throw to anyone but the HB.