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whodey08
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2288707&pbp_id=1360498

FB has more speed and agility and vision than the power back does but you can see the result. I am not bitching as I know later on in the build he will do better but at the younger levels the shit just doesn't make sense.
 
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Originally posted by dbreeze
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2266397&pbp_id=2748113
Here's the HB #'s
6'2" 230lb
Strength:
94.45
Blocking:
18
Speed:
140.45 (+46)
Agility:
90.26
Jumping:
36.26
Stamina:
68.26
Vision:
69.38
Confidence:
62.38

Not good enough? I recruited him just for this. Best I could find. Why can my QB zip right past them blockers but not whiff the CB?
Gaaahhhh!


it sounds like the real problem is is that your QB is not agile enough!!!
if he was, he wouldnt be runnin right into the tackle before a fast RB could get a chance to block
 
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Originally posted by whodey08
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2288707&pbp_id=1360498

FB has more speed and agility and vision than the power back does but you can see the result. I am not bitching as I know later on in the build he will do better but at the younger levels the shit just doesn't make sense.


cmon that guy is slow as dirt!!!
how do you expect a guy who is slow as dirt to ever block on an outside run from the backfield?
and from I formation to boot?!?

come on man!
use some common sense!!!
 
darncat
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an dont tell me "i dont care if he's slow as dirt so is the HB and he got their first"

first of all, vision is more important in that aspect for the FB.
the RB is running top speed. the FB is trying to identify who to block.

second it is so obvious here that your HB, probably set on 100 power running style
cuts off his own FB because he is not taking that I pitch wide...
you would need a much much faster and agile FB to get in front of him there with the angle he is taking it...
use some common sense... do u use these threads to make other ppl do yr GPing?
 
whodey08
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Originally posted by darncat
cmon that guy is slow as dirt!!!
how do you expect a guy who is slow as dirt to ever block on an outside run from the backfield?
and from I formation to boot?!?

come on man!
use some common sense!!!


HE HAS MORE SPEED AND AGILITY AND VISION THAN THE HB CARRYING THE BALL. What part of that are you not comprehending???
Edited by whodey08 on Feb 10, 2013 19:10:31
 
Homage
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Originally posted by whodey08
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2288707&pbp_id=1360498

FB has more speed and agility and vision than the power back does but you can see the result. I am not bitching as I know later on in the build he will do better but at the younger levels the shit just doesn't make sense.


he's trying to decide who to block and failed miserably at it... that's a build issue and it just happens to be what, the 2nd season in the build?

Cry more.
 
Homage
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And vision checks for HB's have a much much lower threshold in my experience.
 
whodey08
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Originally posted by Homage
he's trying to decide who to block and failed miserably at it... that's a build issue and it just happens to be what, the 2nd season in the build?

Cry more.


Kiss my ass Homage. I said I wasn't bitching. I was supplying an example of a FB who has more speed agility vision than the HB not even coming close to blocking. There was no icon for a failed vision check either. I said I know later levels he will do better. No sense in you making a "cry more" comment.
 
whodey08
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Originally posted by Homage
he's trying to decide who to block and failed miserably at it... that's a build issue and it just happens to be what, the 2nd season in the build?

Cry more.


I said I wasn't bitching. I was supplying an example of a FB who has more speed agility vision than the HB not even coming close to blocking. There was no icon for a failed vision check either. I said I know later levels he will do better. No sense in you making a "cry more" comment.
 
Homage
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What's more speed... by 10+? It can't be much more. And if the vision isn't enough to properly pick his blocking assignment, he'll fail regardless of his speed/agility. People who spout that vision isn't important for a blocking FB tend to ignore problems like these. It doesn't need to be 90, but it definitely needs attention.
Edited by Homage on Feb 10, 2013 19:45:00
 
Homage
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And I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but when you make silly posts like that, you do absolutely nothing for the community.
 
whodey08
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Originally posted by Homage
And I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, but when you make silly posts like that, you do absolutely nothing for the community.


1) No hurt feelings
2) Wasn't a silly post. This is a discussion about fixing the blocking for FB's. I posted an example of what people are referring too. I stated in an earlier posts that older FB's who are built properly block great but lower level FB's are useless.
3) Your post about crying and telling me I made silly posts are not helping the community either
 
bhall43
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ugh this thread...

Fix ur blocking and vision and watch miracles happen.
 
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1.) FB blocking needs tweaking. Badly.

2.) People need to stop this nonsense of building slow-ass, low-agility, blind-as-a-bat FBs and posting things like "He has more than enough Speed, Agility, and Vision! Why can't he block?"

These two statements are not mutually exclusive. Both are true.
 
whodey08
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Properly built FB's work great!! Problem is that at lower to mid levels a blocking FB is just useless. Its a shame that a position is completely useless until the dot is more than half way or more to retirement. They buff certain positions at the lower levels to help those dots out and i think all people want is some help to blocking FB's at the lower levels.

Maybe remove the vision checks til a certain age or something. If its a pitch to the outside and the HB gets tackled by a LB who broke thru the line than so be it but I hate that the FB is not lead blocking to the outside like the play design.
Edited by whodey08 on Feb 10, 2013 20:33:21
 
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