I would hope no one who cares about their end build intense trains for a whole season.
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Originally posted by Jay89
Originally posted by Bane
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Do the math. If i can intense train my speed, and get it to 89 (on a cb) by day 48 of the 1st season, it hits 104 natural.
Now changing nothing but the fact that i didnt intense train for the first season, and 4 way trained in an entire career, speed only reached 101. So u can sit there and lolu all you want, but if we must sit here and compare results, ill start pulling up VPB #'s, as well as actual results.
In order to reach that same # i reached when Intense training for season #1, you would have to continue to multi train that 1st attribute for a total of 6 seasons. And considering most guys start light training after 5 seasons...
Well its seems self explanatory, and is definitely common sense.
If I start multi training speed, agility and vision after 68-capping speed and only 80-cap speed so it can be multi-trained longer and rotate through the 4th attribute I can get this for a CB
EL - 1507
Bonus Tokens: 1212
Attributes:
strength : 50
speed : 104.1 (+55)
agility : 96.1
jumping : 75.1
stamina : 63.26
vision : 88.1
confidence : 40.26
catching : 23.26
tackling : 64.26
Top SA Tree: | 9 | 5 | 9 | 2 | 1 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 3 |---> Wrap Up Tackle
+21% Deflect Pass
+15% Make Tackle
+15% Avoid Fake
the thing is, on whatever day you 68-cap speed, and only add SP til you 80-cap while switching to multi-training speed, agility and vision and add jumping, then tackling, then stamina as the 4th attribute you rotate through until you train speed to 99 (crossing 100 drops training to 1% so you don't want that)
Originally posted by Bane
lolu
Do the math. If i can intense train my speed, and get it to 89 (on a cb) by day 48 of the 1st season, it hits 104 natural.
Now changing nothing but the fact that i didnt intense train for the first season, and 4 way trained in an entire career, speed only reached 101. So u can sit there and lolu all you want, but if we must sit here and compare results, ill start pulling up VPB #'s, as well as actual results.
In order to reach that same # i reached when Intense training for season #1, you would have to continue to multi train that 1st attribute for a total of 6 seasons. And considering most guys start light training after 5 seasons...
Well its seems self explanatory, and is definitely common sense.
If I start multi training speed, agility and vision after 68-capping speed and only 80-cap speed so it can be multi-trained longer and rotate through the 4th attribute I can get this for a CB
EL - 1507
Bonus Tokens: 1212
Attributes:
strength : 50
speed : 104.1 (+55)
agility : 96.1
jumping : 75.1
stamina : 63.26
vision : 88.1
confidence : 40.26
catching : 23.26
tackling : 64.26
Top SA Tree: | 9 | 5 | 9 | 2 | 1 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 3 |---> Wrap Up Tackle
+21% Deflect Pass
+15% Make Tackle
+15% Avoid Fake
the thing is, on whatever day you 68-cap speed, and only add SP til you 80-cap while switching to multi-training speed, agility and vision and add jumping, then tackling, then stamina as the 4th attribute you rotate through until you train speed to 99 (crossing 100 drops training to 1% so you don't want that)
Originally posted by Jay89
Originally posted by whodey08
Your all over the place with your answers man...lol. Why are you talking about "end build" and then ripping me for talking about end builds and not pee wee dots?
Multi training your main attribute for end build does help your main attribute despite anything you say. Your making yourself look ridiculous man.
First off, my "End Build" comments were in reply to yours (as well as others) who brought the subject up.
And since you seem to think you know it all, and that 4 way training does in fact help your main attribute, please just explain to me how. Considering 90% of dot builders take their #1 attribute out of their multi training after 2-3 seasons (in exchange for another attribute), and it still doent add up to what it would if you just intense trained it for one season, then left it alone. So explain to me how a lower #, is better than a higher #, and how this wold of opposites you live in, makes any sense at all
not true (well, maybe they do, but they shouldn't)
Originally posted by whodey08
Your all over the place with your answers man...lol. Why are you talking about "end build" and then ripping me for talking about end builds and not pee wee dots?
Multi training your main attribute for end build does help your main attribute despite anything you say. Your making yourself look ridiculous man.
First off, my "End Build" comments were in reply to yours (as well as others) who brought the subject up.
And since you seem to think you know it all, and that 4 way training does in fact help your main attribute, please just explain to me how. Considering 90% of dot builders take their #1 attribute out of their multi training after 2-3 seasons (in exchange for another attribute), and it still doent add up to what it would if you just intense trained it for one season, then left it alone. So explain to me how a lower #, is better than a higher #, and how this wold of opposites you live in, makes any sense at all
not true (well, maybe they do, but they shouldn't)
Edited by reddogrw on Jan 30, 2013 16:44:44
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Originally posted by sirstyle
I would hope no one who cares about their end build intense trains for a whole season.
Im not saying i would recommend it. but for certain positions, there are advantages.
For instance...
I could intense train throwing on a QB for a full season, never train it again after day 48, and it will hit 112 End build. Now it does take a small hit on a few other attributes, but it can be made up a bit. Im just saying, for guys who like to take their primary attribute to ridiculous #'s, it IS an option, and CAN be effective.
I would hope no one who cares about their end build intense trains for a whole season.
Im not saying i would recommend it. but for certain positions, there are advantages.
For instance...
I could intense train throwing on a QB for a full season, never train it again after day 48, and it will hit 112 End build. Now it does take a small hit on a few other attributes, but it can be made up a bit. Im just saying, for guys who like to take their primary attribute to ridiculous #'s, it IS an option, and CAN be effective.
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Originally posted by reddogrw
If I start multi training speed, agility and vision after 68-capping speed and only 80-cap speed so it can be multi-trained longer and rotate through the 4th attribute I can get this for a CB
EL - 1507
Bonus Tokens: 1212
Attributes:
strength : 50
speed : 104.1 (+55)
agility : 96.1
jumping : 75.1
stamina : 63.26
vision : 88.1
confidence : 40.26
catching : 23.26
tackling : 64.26
Top SA Tree: | 9 | 5 | 9 | 2 | 1 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 3 |---> Wrap Up Tackle
+21% Deflect Pass
+15% Make Tackle
+15% Avoid Fake
the thing is, on whatever day you 68-cap speed, and only add SP til you 80-cap while switching to multi-training speed, agility and vision and add jumping, then tackling, then stamina as the 4th attribute you rotate through until you train speed to 99 (crossing 100 drops training to 1% so you don't want that)
Would you mind copy and pasting the key # for this build? Seems pretty fake to me
If I start multi training speed, agility and vision after 68-capping speed and only 80-cap speed so it can be multi-trained longer and rotate through the 4th attribute I can get this for a CB
EL - 1507
Bonus Tokens: 1212
Attributes:
strength : 50
speed : 104.1 (+55)
agility : 96.1
jumping : 75.1
stamina : 63.26
vision : 88.1
confidence : 40.26
catching : 23.26
tackling : 64.26
Top SA Tree: | 9 | 5 | 9 | 2 | 1 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 3 |---> Wrap Up Tackle
+21% Deflect Pass
+15% Make Tackle
+15% Avoid Fake
the thing is, on whatever day you 68-cap speed, and only add SP til you 80-cap while switching to multi-training speed, agility and vision and add jumping, then tackling, then stamina as the 4th attribute you rotate through until you train speed to 99 (crossing 100 drops training to 1% so you don't want that)
Would you mind copy and pasting the key # for this build? Seems pretty fake to me
Originally posted by Jay89
Originally posted by reddogrw
If I start multi training speed, agility and vision after 68-capping speed and only 80-cap speed so it can be multi-trained longer and rotate through the 4th attribute I can get this for a CB
EL - 1507
Bonus Tokens: 1212
Attributes:
strength : 50
speed : 104.1 (+55)
agility : 96.1
jumping : 75.1
stamina : 63.26
vision : 88.1
confidence : 40.26
catching : 23.26
tackling : 64.26
Top SA Tree: | 9 | 5 | 9 | 2 | 1 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 3 |---> Wrap Up Tackle
+21% Deflect Pass
+15% Make Tackle
+15% Avoid Fake
the thing is, on whatever day you 68-cap speed, and only add SP til you 80-cap while switching to multi-training speed, agility and vision and add jumping, then tackling, then stamina as the 4th attribute you rotate through until you train speed to 99 (crossing 100 drops training to 1% so you don't want that)
Would you mind copy and pasting the key # for this build? Seems pretty fake to me
I didn't save it, but will run it again now
Originally posted by reddogrw
If I start multi training speed, agility and vision after 68-capping speed and only 80-cap speed so it can be multi-trained longer and rotate through the 4th attribute I can get this for a CB
EL - 1507
Bonus Tokens: 1212
Attributes:
strength : 50
speed : 104.1 (+55)
agility : 96.1
jumping : 75.1
stamina : 63.26
vision : 88.1
confidence : 40.26
catching : 23.26
tackling : 64.26
Top SA Tree: | 9 | 5 | 9 | 2 | 1 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 3 |---> Wrap Up Tackle
+21% Deflect Pass
+15% Make Tackle
+15% Avoid Fake
the thing is, on whatever day you 68-cap speed, and only add SP til you 80-cap while switching to multi-training speed, agility and vision and add jumping, then tackling, then stamina as the 4th attribute you rotate through until you train speed to 99 (crossing 100 drops training to 1% so you don't want that)
Would you mind copy and pasting the key # for this build? Seems pretty fake to me
I didn't save it, but will run it again now
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Originally posted by reddogrw
not true (well, maybe they do, but they shouldn't)
So your telling me, its worth losing out on 15-30 into a different attribute, just to gain an extra 1 or 2 in your main attribute?
Do guys train the same 4 attributes their entire careers?
Also, i dont know many guys who go to the 80 cap then continue to multi train it. i think alot of people agree its easier to take it to 86 (in the first season), and then have the ability to train something that would make more sense, rather than worrying about the difference between 101, and 103.
not true (well, maybe they do, but they shouldn't)
So your telling me, its worth losing out on 15-30 into a different attribute, just to gain an extra 1 or 2 in your main attribute?
Do guys train the same 4 attributes their entire careers?
Also, i dont know many guys who go to the 80 cap then continue to multi train it. i think alot of people agree its easier to take it to 86 (in the first season), and then have the ability to train something that would make more sense, rather than worrying about the difference between 101, and 103.
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Originally posted by reddogrw
I didn't save it, but will run it again now
I was just busting your balls lol. I dont really care that much at all. I just seen the oppurtunity for an argument in this thread, and lead an extremely boring life, so i jumped on the oppurtunity.
I didn't save it, but will run it again now
I was just busting your balls lol. I dont really care that much at all. I just seen the oppurtunity for an argument in this thread, and lead an extremely boring life, so i jumped on the oppurtunity.
Originally posted by Jay89
Originally posted by reddogrw
not true (well, maybe they do, but they shouldn't)
So your telling me, its worth losing out on 15-30 into a different attribute, just to gain an extra 1 or 2 in your main attribute?
Do guys train the same 4 attributes their entire careers?
Also, i dont know many guys who go to the 80 cap then continue to multi train it. i think alot of people agree its easier to take it to 86 (in the first season), and then have the ability to train something that would make more sense, rather than worrying about the difference between 101, and 103.
just speed, agility and vision - rotate the free spot - once speed hits 100 (stop adding SP at the 80-cap) then start light, normal, intense training to roll attributes over and clean and finish things up
Originally posted by reddogrw
not true (well, maybe they do, but they shouldn't)
So your telling me, its worth losing out on 15-30 into a different attribute, just to gain an extra 1 or 2 in your main attribute?
Do guys train the same 4 attributes their entire careers?
Also, i dont know many guys who go to the 80 cap then continue to multi train it. i think alot of people agree its easier to take it to 86 (in the first season), and then have the ability to train something that would make more sense, rather than worrying about the difference between 101, and 103.
just speed, agility and vision - rotate the free spot - once speed hits 100 (stop adding SP at the 80-cap) then start light, normal, intense training to roll attributes over and clean and finish things up
Originally posted by Jay89
Do the math. If i can intense train my speed, and get it to 89 (on a cb) by day 48 of the 1st season, it hits 104 natural.
Now changing nothing but the fact that i didnt intense train for the first season, and 4 way trained in an entire career, speed only reached 101. So u can sit there and lolu all you want, but if we must sit here and compare results, ill start pulling up VPB #'s, as well as actual results.
you totally missed the part of your post that I quoted and lolu'd
Originally posted by Jay89
And in no way shape or form does multi training help your MAIN attribute.
that is what I quoted. and I stand by my statement (hell YOU even proved the point)
Do the math. If i can intense train my speed, and get it to 89 (on a cb) by day 48 of the 1st season, it hits 104 natural.
Now changing nothing but the fact that i didnt intense train for the first season, and 4 way trained in an entire career, speed only reached 101. So u can sit there and lolu all you want, but if we must sit here and compare results, ill start pulling up VPB #'s, as well as actual results.
you totally missed the part of your post that I quoted and lolu'd
Originally posted by Jay89
And in no way shape or form does multi training help your MAIN attribute.
that is what I quoted. and I stand by my statement (hell YOU even proved the point)
I often continue training my primaries well after hitting the 8:1 cap (via multi)
bottom line , multi training is good, on the hole
bottom line , multi training is good, on the hole
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Originally posted by Bane
I often continue training my primaries well after hitting the 8:1 cap (via multi)
bottom line , multi training is good, on the hole
I often continue training my primaries well after hitting the 8:1 cap (via multi)
bottom line , multi training is good, on the hole
Originally posted by sirstyle
I would hope no one who cares about their end build intense trains for a whole season.
read the freaking OP, PEEWEE.
All this end build ish does not apply to this thread tbh.
If I had the cares, i would do the math of me intensing each att until it gets where I want,
but the cares won't be given.
If anyone has done the math though, please feel free to show it.
I would hope no one who cares about their end build intense trains for a whole season.
read the freaking OP, PEEWEE.
All this end build ish does not apply to this thread tbh.
If I had the cares, i would do the math of me intensing each att until it gets where I want,
but the cares won't be given.
If anyone has done the math though, please feel free to show it.
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Originally posted by whodey08
Good thing we didn't sign you then
We capped at 85 and are still multi training our main attribute for certain positions 
85? Why such a low #? I just dont understand how guys are building nowadays. All of my dots (except my shitty TE) end their first season with their first attribute in the 86-89 range
Good thing we didn't sign you then
We capped at 85 and are still multi training our main attribute for certain positions 85? Why such a low #? I just dont understand how guys are building nowadays. All of my dots (except my shitty TE) end their first season with their first attribute in the 86-89 range
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