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Originally posted by bhall43
Madmustaff

is he the one who decided to use the punter at QB? or was that another guy

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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
w_alloy wasn't a great OC from a tactics perspective. Valhalla's success was more about a coordinated team effort from a strategy perspective while being mildly ahead of the curve with stacked AEQ.
Completely false. Valhalla dominated offensively in part because of their dots, but also because alloy knew which plays were best and spammed those incessantly.

Originally posted by evileyez
same apples for DC
Hardly.

Originally posted by jdbolick

Completely false. Valhalla dominated offensively in part because of their dots, but also because alloy knew which plays were best and spammed those incessantly.

i think alloy was a really solid OC, but spamming the same plays isn't a recipe for a great OC. A ton of guys ran the ISlam play over and over when it was an exploit and claimed to be good OC's which was laughable

Originally posted by jdbolick

Completely false. Valhalla dominated offensively in part because of their dots, but also because alloy knew which plays were best and spammed those incessantly.

ya cuz Lincoln was irrelevant and I would know nothing of scouting Valhalla.

Originally posted by jdbolick

Completely false. Valhalla dominated offensively in part because of their dots, but also because alloy knew which plays were best and spammed those incessantly.

We all ran the same 15 plays. Unfortunately I had nowhere near the firepower he did.

Originally posted by ghuffman
i think alloy was a really solid OC, but spamming the same plays isn't a recipe for a great OC. A ton of guys ran the ISlam play over and over when it was an exploit and claimed to be good OC's which was laughable

Spamming the right plays was a winning combination. It still pretty much is however you need to surround those spam plays with some wrinkles in order to keep DC's honest.

Originally posted by bhall43
Spamming the right plays was a winning combination. It still pretty much is however you need to surround those spam plays with some wrinkles in order to keep DC's honest.

that's my point...valhalla was the easiest team to scout, but the hardest team to stop. Give a guy over a 100 in catching and apparently he can catch in triple coverage - so stupid at the time

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
ya cuz Lincoln was irrelevant and I would know nothing of scouting Valhalla.
You are known for being a worse coordinator than you are a moderator. I DCed against him all three seasons, and my biggest claim to fame remains holding Valhalla scoreless for an entire half.


Originally posted by bhall43
Spamming the right plays was a winning combination. It still pretty much is however you need to surround those spam plays with some wrinkles in order to keep DC's honest.
Correct, and back then it didn't matter as much because of catch ball being so ridiculous. But the point remains that it's annoying for people to claim that alloy's success was just about dots when it most certainly was not. His dots weren't revolutionary, and all mine from that age had 3 pieces of AEQ like his. They dominated partly because of having a full team at that level of quality, but also because he figured out what worked and what did not in the sim.

Originally posted by ghuffman
that's my point...valhalla was the easiest team to scout, but the hardest team to stop. Give a guy over a 100 in catching and apparently he can catch in triple coverage - so stupid at the time

All you needed was stacked % equipment. The catching attribute itself was actually kinda irrelevant. I got countless pm's from DC's asking why America Fuk Ya was catching balls in triple teams all the time. The hardest part about being an OC prior to w_alloy opening his builds was in the preseason trying to convince guys that Catch % equipment is ridiculously awesome.

Being a great OC is not about being incredibly clever and diverse, it's about figuring out what works for your team and then doing it. No one was more targeted on a small selection of plays than alloy, and he did that because he knew they were so much more effective than the rest of the playbook.

I remember this one time I spammed jd right out of the WL playoffs.

how do you guys remember all this stuff about dotball?

Originally posted by bhall43
I remember this one time I spammed jd right out of the WL playoffs. XD
Yup. Gart's reign was also characterized by knowing what worked and using that.