Warrior General Games

Originally posted by KingCheez


Yeah right,How many National Championships have the SEC won in the last 10 years??? Longhorns who???

Originally posted by tpaterniti
Well I'm a SC fan so I don't have a very high opinion of UGA. What game were you referring to above?

A&M vs. Bama.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I'm a realist

lol this is always a good thing to hear someone say about himself, especially when he is discussing what he will be drinking to escape reality

I see. Ok well first of all that QB will probably win a Heisman trophy. Second not sure what them being supposedly a middle of the road school in the big 12 has to do with anything. Mediocre teams occasionally recruit really good players cf. Auburn (well they paid for him but you get the idea), Baylor would be another. Third being able to tell recruits they were going to be an sec team probably helped their recruiting and allowed them to get some players they would not have otherwise. Finally that A&M team is totally different than last season. Different QB different offense different coach. If they were in the Big 12 this season they would have dominated it.

Originally posted by tpaterniti
I see. Ok well first of all that QB will probably win a Heisman trophy. Second not sure what them being supposedly a middle of the road school in the big 12 has to do with anything. Mediocre teams occasionally recruit really good players cf. Auburn (well they paid for him but you get the idea), Baylor would be another. Third being able to tell recruits they were going to be an sec team probably helped their recruiting and allowed them to get some players they would not have otherwise. Finally that A&M team is totally different than last season. Different QB different offense different coach. If they were in the Big 12 this season they would have dominated it.

1. The Heisman is a joke.
2. Those teams/players you named didn't succeed as freshmen. Tebow, Newton, VY, RGIII, all didn't have great freshmen seasons. Them picking up Manziel isn't the reason they went from mediocre in one conference to one of the top teams in another conference.
3. The players they are playing with right now were primarily recruited while they were still a Big 12 team. Sumlin is playing with Sherman's players.
4. Watching A&M, I can say they aren't much different than prior seasons. If they were in the Big 12, they'd be at best a 3 loss team.

1. The Heisman is a joke. Can't really argue that.
2. - Them picking up Manziel isn't the reason they went from mediocre in one conference to one of the top teams in another conference. Thats debatable.
3. The players they are playing with right now were primarily recruited while they were still a Big 12 team. Sumlin is playing with Sherman's players. A lot of 'em, yep
4. Watching A&M, I can say they aren't much different than prior seasons. If they were in the Big 12, they'd be at best a 3 loss team.You can say it, doesn't make it true.

GO DUCKS

If Manziel wins, they should just rename the Heisman the "Player with the best Stats"

Originally posted by KingPB
If Manziel wins, they should just rename the Heisman the "Player with the best Stats"

I just like how a large number of Heisman contenders have lost the Heisman with a bad game, but he's playing for a two loss team with one loss being a 3 INT game on his part and he is the leader. It seems like everyone is just ignoring that LSU game.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I just like how a large number of Heisman contenders have lost the Heisman with a bad game, but he's playing for a two loss team with one loss being a 3 INT game on his part and he is the leader. It seems like everyone is just ignoring that LSU game.

Most of his big games came from the garbage SEC games too. But yeah the LSU game happened

Originally posted by TheBear
1. The Heisman is a joke. Can't really argue that.
2. - Them picking up Manziel isn't the reason they went from mediocre in one conference to one of the top teams in another conference. Thats debatable.
3. The players they are playing with right now were primarily recruited while they were still a Big 12 team. Sumlin is playing with Sherman's players. A lot of 'em, yep
4. Watching A&M, I can say they aren't much different than prior seasons. If they were in the Big 12, they'd be at best a 3 loss team.You can say it, doesn't make it true.



Matt Leinart, Danny Wuerffel, Charlie Ward, Gino Torretta, Ty Detmer, Andre Ware my favorites

Robert Griffin III

There have been great ones and some really not so great ones.

PAST HEISMAN TROPHY WINNERS
YEAR
WINNER
SCHOOL
POSITION
2011
Robert Griffin III
Baylor
QB

2010
Cameron Newton
Auburn
QB

2009
Mark Ingram
Alabama
RB

2008
Sam Bradford
Oklahoma
QB

2007
Tim Tebow
Florida
QB

2006
Troy Smith
Ohio State
QB

2005
Reggie Bush
Southern California
RB

2004
Matt Leinart
Southern California
QB

2003
Jason White
Oklahoma
QB

2002
Carson Palmer
Southern California
QB

2001
Eric Crouch
Nebraska
QB

2000
Chris Weinke
Florida State
QB

1999
Ron Dayne
Wisconsin
RB

1998
Ricky Williams
Texas
RB

1997
Charles Woodson
Michigan
DB/WR

1996
Danny Wuerffel
Florida
QB

1995
Eddie George
Ohio State
RB

1994
Rashaan Salaam
Colorado
RB

1993
Charlie Ward
Florida State
QB

1992
Gino Torretta
Miami
QB

1991
Desmond Howard
Michigan
WR

1990
Ty Detmer
Brigham Young
QB

1989
Andre Ware
Houston
QB

1988
Barry Sanders
Oklahoma State
RB

1987
Tim Brown
Notre Dame
WR

1986
Vinny Testaverde
Miami
QB

1985
Bo Jackson
Auburn
RB

1984
Doug Flutie
Boston College
QB

1983
Mike Rozier
Nebraska
RB

1982
Herschel Walker
Georgia
RB

1981
Marcus Allen
Southern California
RB

1980
George Rogers
South Carolina
RB

1979
Charles White
Southern California
RB

1978
Billy Sims
Oklahoma
RB

1977
Earl Campbell
Texas
RB

1976
Tony Dorsett
Pittsburgh
RB

1975
Archie Griffin
Ohio State
RB

1974
Archie Griffin
Ohio State
RB

1973
John Cappelletti
Penn State
RB

1972
Johnny Rodgers
Nebraska
WR

1971
Pat Sullivan
Auburn
QB

1970
Jim Plunkett
Stanford
QB

1969
Steve Owens
Oklahoma
HB

1968
O.J. Simpson
Southern California
HB

1967
Gary Beban
UCLA
QB

1966
Steve Spurrier
Florida
QB

1965
Mike Garrett
Southern California
HB

1964
John Huarte
Notre Dame
QB

1963
Roger Staubach
Navy
QB

1962
Terry Baker
Oregon State
QB

1961
Ernie Davis
Syracuse
HB

1960
Joe Bellino
Navy
HB

1959
Billy Cannon
LSU
HB

1958
Pete Dawkins
Army
HB

1957
John David Crow
Texas A&M
HB

1956
Paul Hornung
Notre Dame
QB

1955
Howard Cassady
Ohio State
HB

1954
Alan Ameche
Wisconsin
FB

1953
Johnny Lattner
Notre Dame
HB

1952
Billy Vessels
Oklahoma
HB

1951
Dick Kazmaier
Princeton
HB

1950
Vic Janowicz
Ohio State
HB

1949
Leon Hart
Notre Dame
E

1948
Doak Walker
Southern Methodist
HB

1947
Johnny Lujack
Notre Dame
QB

1946
Glenn Davis
Army
HB

1945
Doc Blanchard
Army
FB

1944
Les Horvath
Ohio State
QB/HB

1943
Angelo Bertelli
Notre Dame
QB

1942
Frank Sinkwich
Georgia
HB

1941
Bruce Smith
Minnesota
HB

1940
Tom Harmon
Michigan
HB

1939
Nile Kinnick
Iowa
HB

1938
Davey O'Brien
Texas Christian
QB

1937
Clint Frank
Yale
HB

1936
Larry Kelley
Yale
E

1935
Jay Berwanger
Chicago
HB

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