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I like that thought - nothing against a pool of free player flex to make multiple players. I do believe though that some people expect these agents to make the players in critical need by forcing their hand by not allowing them to make what they really want to make - that is a mistake.

I'm just from the school of though that there should be no restrictions on what player position an agent can make - free or otherwise. Give the player agents accurate information on the player landscape for the Day 0 class (because thats the only class that is relevant anyway when the player is created) the information they need to make informed decisions and let them decide what they want to do.

Think about it, Plateau lasts 5 seasons - so eventually classes will merge at the end game. Why restrict a class from making positions when later on those may actually be needed due to both team and player attrition for the classes that are 2 to 3 seasons ahead of them?

People should be more concerned about the quantity of QUALITY players, not simply the quantity of players. If it takes 1,000 HB's just to get a pool of 100 HB's that are worth a shit - why tell people they can't make them? We should be encouraging people to both make players AND make them better - not take the Soup Nazi approach "no HB for you!!!!!!"

Originally posted by greengoose
If it takes 1,000 HB's just to get a pool of 100 HB's that are worth a shit - why tell people they can't make them? We should be encouraging people to both make players AND make them better - not take the Soup Nazi approach "no HB for you!!!!!!"


Seriously bro, the only people bitching about not being able to use their free slot for QB and HB are people with shitloads of multis and/or people that have been around 4 years and haven't dropped a dime. People that actually contribute to this game don't have to worry about it since they have flex to create a HB/QB regardless of the demand.

All this suggestion is doing is allowing people with multis to have yet another exploit to take advantage of. Hell, I've bit my tongue all this time but no more. Look at who is suggesting this. Anyone that hasn't had their head in the sand knows who the op is and knows his reputation. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why he wants this suggestion implemented.

Your argument about a "soup nazi" approach is laughable. ANYONE THAT WANTS TO CREATE A QB OR HB CAN CREATE ONE. GLB IS NOT STOPPING THEM FROM CREATING ONE. THEY CAN CREATE 1000 QBs IF THEY WANT.

Originally posted by vinman
If you use your free player to make a QB,WR or HB that is 300 flex position. Allow people who don't want or can't get one of those positions to make other players that total 300

Example

- 3 OL (300)
- LB + K (300)
- FB + C (300)

etc

I brought that up on page 1 and greengoose thinks that's a terrible idea. Of course, this is the same guy that thinks GLB needs 1000 more HBs. O_o

Dub the idea about multi players for the 300 flex was the way it used to be but the money grabbers here at GLB want the best position that every one would make for a carreer pay in full for those level ups. Oh by the way Dubs, everyone that doesnt spend $1000.00 per season like Im sure you do, they don't all have "Multis". Ive spent some money but don't have even $20.00 to spend every season so maybe there should be a minimum or they quit to make it better for the people who can afford it. Instead of GLB call it "100 agents and two teams playing on the internet"

Originally posted by Dub J
I brought that up on page 1 and greengoose thinks that's a terrible idea. Of course, this is the same guy that thinks GLB needs 1000 more HBs. O_o

I didn't think it was a terrible idea, read the post. I said it WILL NOT make people make the high demand positions (which I've repeatedly said - and what you seem to think they will do for team owners sake). You said make a defensive player and a K, so they will likely make a DE (for sacks) and K - neither of which is a problem in the demand department.

It is a good idea, but not for the reasons you think it will be (to fill the vacancies on team rosters), In the end, it should be up to the player to make whatever players they want to make - just don't expect them to make positions that are like watching paint dry (O-line) - and surely not be led by the nose ring to do so.

Added: Dub, you've been around the game long enough that I surely shouldn't have to point you to the TLFP forum, where virtually any startup team has pretty much the entire O-line vacant - just waiting for someone to fill it. It's not the cost of the player that is the barrier to making those positions, it's that they do nothing but block - and even then when they are in position to do just that (i.e. a pulling G ready to roadgrade a LB), they stop and do nothing.

Originally posted by Dub J

Seriously bro, the only people bitching about not being able to use their free slot for QB and HB are people with shitloads of multis and/or people that have been around 4 years and haven't dropped a dime. People that actually contribute to this game don't have to worry about it since they have flex to create a HB/QB regardless of the demand.

All this suggestion is doing is allowing people with multis to have yet another exploit to take advantage of. Hell, I've bit my tongue all this time but no more. Look at who is suggesting this. Anyone that hasn't had their head in the sand knows who the op is and knows his reputation. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why he wants this suggestion implemented.

Your argument about a "soup nazi" approach is laughable. ANYONE THAT WANTS TO CREATE A QB OR HB CAN CREATE ONE. GLB IS NOT STOPPING THEM FROM CREATING ONE. THEY CAN CREATE 1000 QBs IF THEY WANT.




Why are you so bent out of shape about what people do with their free player anyway? Seriously. Why is anyone bent out of shape about what everyone else does with their free player? It's a free player, let them make the free player into whatever they want - the MARKET will determine whether the player gets used or not - and that is how it should be.

Dub, lets just compromise here. Lets just call it the "Notso Free - Free Player" and be done with it. Free flex, but you aren't free to spend it freely.

Looking at it through the eyes of Finance, (GLB) This is a bad idea. Making Free Dots.
The extra free player was like a stimulus plan. to get more dots to fill more teams.

I like the package deal Dub talks about. But would have to be considered to High demands only in my opinion.
However, the Package deal could be set up to total X amount of flex points. Doubling up on HB, QB's and WR's should not be
permitted.

This would Help revenue for GLB, Create more dots to fill more teams and boost moral of the GLB customers.

Current Status.

Guard 6386 already active Very high demand at 3.01 per team
Offensive Tackle 6592 already active Very high demand at 3.11 per team

Defensive Tackle 6228 already active Very high demand at 2.94 per team
Linebacker 10410 already active Very high demand at 4.91 per team

Wide Receiver 9230 already active High demand at 4.35 per team

Defensive End 6990 already active High demand at 3.3 per team
Cornerback 9326 already active High demand at 4.4 per team

The ability to create Two Very High Demands with One High Demand would
help the balance.

In Short, More for the Money, More Players, and Balanced Teams.
For the Agent that build their Complete Team with their Dots only, Spend a lot of Cash here. Help them out as well!

Either way, Over stacking the Low Demands is not a good idea.

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Originally posted by greengoose
Why are you so bent out of shape about what people do with their free player anyway? Seriously. Why is anyone bent out of shape about what everyone else does with their free player? It's a free player, let them make the free player into whatever they want - the MARKET will determine whether the player gets used or not - and that is how it should be.


I'm not bent out of shape about what people do with their free player. I'm bent out of shape about what some people with gobs of multis do with their free player.

Originally posted by lilcokeman

Looking at it through the eyes of Finance, (GLB) This is a bad idea. Making Free Dots.
The extra free player was like a stimulus plan. to get more dots to fill more teams.

I like the package deal Dub talks about. But would have to be considered to High demands only in my opinion.
However, the Package deal could be set up to total X amount of flex points. Doubling up on HB, QB's and WR's should not be
permitted.

This would Help revenue for GLB, Create more dots to fill more teams and boost moral of the GLB customers.

Current Status.

Guard 6386 already active Very high demand at 3.01 per team
Offensive Tackle 6592 already active Very high demand at 3.11 per team

Defensive Tackle 6228 already active Very high demand at 2.94 per team
Linebacker 10410 already active Very high demand at 4.91 per team

Wide Receiver 9230 already active High demand at 4.35 per team

Defensive End 6990 already active High demand at 3.3 per team
Cornerback 9326 already active High demand at 4.4 per team

The ability to create Two Very High Demands with One High Demand would
help the balance.

In Short, More for the Money, More Players, and Balanced Teams.
For the Agent that build their Complete Team with their Dots only, Spend a lot of Cash here. Help them out as well!

Either way, Over stacking the Low Demands is not a good idea.

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Yeah, too many people fail to realize that having more competitive teams is better for user retention than giving some people that don't coin whatever they want. If someone just wants to come here and do nothing more than create one free dot that's fine. If they want to get mad and quit because they can't create a HB/QB that's fine to. Has -0- impact on this game whatsoever.

Originally posted by Dub J
If someone just wants to come here and do nothing more than create one free dot that's fine. If they want to get mad and quit because they can't create a HB/QB that's fine to. Has -0- impact on this game whatsoever.

Perhaps the most meaningful statement in this whole thread in my opinion.

Originally posted by Daver
Why is it impossible to make a free HB? They say the demand is low at 2.53 per team yet almost every team needs or wants 3 HBs and you can't find any fill your roster. How about you allow agents to make whatever player they want for free including HBs?

my free player is a QB

I'm going to buy a shitload of flex tomorrow. Enough to create 1000 HBs.

Originally posted by Dub J
I'm going to buy a shitload of flex tomorrow. Enough to create 1000 HBs.

you don't have the hair on your rump to do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!