Warrior General Games

Originally posted by whodey08
So are you suggesting 52-54 vision is acceptable for a WR who plans to make it to WL?

Depends on where that expense is coming from. But obviously there currently are several guys in WL now with that low vision.

Originally posted by dss02
Really just do not give advice that has been dis proven time and again
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2403834&playoffs=0 This I assume is from building your way?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2394053&playoffs=0 weird, you would think lolbars and EL mattered wouldn't you?

tbf...your player plays the slot. His plays WR1. Your stats wouldn't be nearly what they are if you weren't in the slot.

Originally posted by bhall43
tbf...your player plays the slot. His plays WR1. Your stats wouldn't be nearly what they are if you weren't in the slot.

wrecked MPHD on the outside in the playoffs last season

Originally posted by dss02
wrecked MPHD on the outside in the playoffs last season

Sure. Your WR is fast and got beyond Machu's defense 3 times. I am just saying. There is a pretty wide difference between your WR and his WR. And playing the slot with slot machine VA is pretty damn helpful to statistics.

Originally posted by dss02
wrecked MPHD on the outside in the playoffs last season
Meh, only because tautology is a bad DC who also builds relatively slow corners by WL standards. All three of his catches in that game came from just running straight upfield:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2107672&pbp_id=9167236
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2107672&pbp_id=9173554
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2107672&pbp_id=9167865

Originally posted by bhall43
Sure. Your WR is fast and got beyond Machu's defense 3 times. I am just saying. There is a pretty wide difference between your WR and his WR. And playing the slot with slot machine VA is pretty damn helpful to statistics.

that being said I have seen some Muffin WR builds and his VA and SA choices are a bit weird which makes the whole comparison a bit weird anyways.

Originally posted by whodey08
Hold up now.....I wasn't being a smart ass. I truly was just asking. I had always assumed high vision was needed for a WR. So I was asking if it was a good idea for a WR who wants to make it to WL can actually plan to have 50 or so vision. It was just a question man.

You do have to pass a vision check to see the incoming pass and adjust to where it's going, so higher is better in that regard, but it's probalby a lot like vision and fakes where you need some to reach your potential, but once you're over the hump, more and more isn't going to make much difference.

I like it up over 60, but as you can see, there are guys kicking ass with less than that.

Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
You do have to pass a vision check to see the incoming pass and adjust to where it's going, so higher is better in that regard, but it's probalby a lot like vision and fakes where you need some to reach your potential, but once you're over the hump, more and more isn't going to make much difference.

I like it up over 60, but as you can see, there are guys kicking ass with less than that.


Slot Machine completely proves this false.

Originally posted by bhall43
that being said I have seen some Muffin WR builds and his VA and SA choices are a bit weird which makes the whole comparison a bit weird anyways.

I was being an ass.

VAs are huge and slot machine trumps most for a WR

Originally posted by dss02
Speed Catch Agility Stamina Carrying

The question was a speed WR so those advocating Jumping just STFU.

Jumping is irrelevant, Strength is unneeded, vision is fine at 60ish end build. Confidence is only needed if your OC wants to use OTK.

As for SAs that is completely dependent upon where your OC slots your Dot.

As for Fake % helping Catch Fake (I don't seem to need it on my turrible WR bug03)

If you do not want to drop passes get more carrying, if you want to catch a higher rate ensure that you are fast enough to run past the coverage (and have Catch Fake)



Thats about as close to what I do as it gets. Only difference is I have Carrying before Stamina and Agility before catching (for speed WR's). I won;t quibble about Agility/catching... but would love to hear why you put stamina before carrying? And what you're looking for the end of both.
As far as jumping is concerned (and strength), I would not put SP's into it until REAL late in the build... but if you have some training or SP's left over that late (like around level 67 or so) those would be places to address a little. it's not like you're gonna try to get them above 50 or something.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Thats about as close to what I do as it gets. Only difference is I have Carrying before Stamina and Agility before catching (for speed WR's). I won;t quibble about Agility/catching... but would love to hear why you put stamina before carrying? And what you're looking for the end of both.
As far as jumping is concerned (and strength), I would not put SP's into it until REAL late in the build... but if you have some training or SP's left over that late (like around level 67 or so) those would be places to address a little. it's not like you're gonna try to get them above 50 or something.

Because Energy depletes quickly with 160+ speed and i like about 70 stamina 60 carrying is fine for a speed WR

Originally posted by dss02
Because Energy depletes quickly with 160+ speed and i like about 70 stamina 60 carrying is fine for a speed WR


bring em both to 70...ya heard?

Originally posted by bhall43
bring em both to 70...ya heard?

I would like to ideally but i normally screw up the build somewhere... I have a few that are at the 70/70 range and I like it, but in general i plan to fail somewhere when building

Originally posted by dss02
Because Energy depletes quickly with 160+ speed and i like about 70 stamina 60 carrying is fine for a speed WR


Must be the meth crash. Thanks for the info.