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Originally posted by Alky
Some of the agents he signed havent even been gone that long. June 5th for 1 and July something for one more.

Hell one of the guys logged in today.

Was that "the guy" or the Admin? It's kinda blurry right now.

Originally posted by greengoose
Was that "the guy" or the Admin? It's kinda blurry right now.

Well somebody has to set the tactics right????

Maybe it's just the Guinness making things seem blurry.

Originally posted by yello1
As we enter the regular season with many teams shy a position or two because no human player could be found at that position, its time to talk about possible solutions.

One that a little bird has whispered to me is that we ought better utilize the vast unwashed masses of the severely inactive dots laying around in the shadowy corners of GLB, unsigned and unloved.

By this I mean dots whose agents have clearly left the game. Inactive for some minimum level of time, say 50 days or maybe even 200.

Since their dots may have been well built (buyer beware would be the rule here), they would likely be more useful than a CPU player and a human dot on the roster is less demoralizing for other team mates and potential recruits as well.

So let owners send automatically accepted contracts to dots whose owners are more than 50 days inactive. They then enter the roster.

These dots would be able to be instant released by the agent should the agent return to the game, via a link on the player and in a PM sent when they are signed.

Obviously these dots would have whatever tactics they had when abandoned, and they would not be applying their SPs or VAs any more, so they should not displace any active human players' dots. But they would be useful in a pinch when nothing else is available.

For example, this agent's dots would be available to plug in if you desperately needed someone

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2263030



what do you think about agents who have more than one dot on CPU teams? Maybe a special place to highlight their players as they may be having trouble finding human teams?

Originally posted by cheese sandwich
what do you think about agents who have more than one dot on CPU teams? Maybe a special place to highlight their players as they may be having trouble finding human teams?

Well you can find them by searching for dots, active agent in last three days and only free agents.

The problem with that is that though is that 9 times out of 10 (I did a survey, okay Im guestimating), the agent wants the D leagues for whatever reason (stat ho'ing, doesn't want to be bothered with human interactions, etc). So there would be alot of noise in there.

That said I cold call those dots alot and sometimes one signs. So might be worthwhile to make it a part of the market place somehow.

Originally posted by Dub J
Sorry bro, but Catch has already signed inactive dots for his cheap ass WL team he took over. Can't have an admin signing inactive dots and telling everyone else they can't sign inactives.



You do understand why he did this right? It's not like catch wanted to get his rocks off competing in WL. WL is the top league in the game and it is frankly a disgrace to have a CPU there. Besides this is messes a lot of things up. It messes up the MVP and the individual trophies, it messes up different contests like the WL fantasy league I am running (though I had nothing to do with his decision), and in general it messes up the competition of the league. The team that was there gutted and sold after schedules had already been generated, which meant that it was pretty much impossible to move another team into that slot, which is what would have happened had they gutted earlier - why they waited is beyond me - looks like a total douche move though I will withhold judgment because I don't know the circumstances behind it.

What catch did to address the problem was unprecedented but absolutely the right thing in my opinion. He bought the team because people were PMing support like crazy to buy it which we don't allow (you can't even buy pro teams - you have to earn that; this also maintains league integrity by preventing noobs from buying top teams and then destroying pro level competition). Then he filled it with dots that would at least provide a base level of competition. They won't win any games (or shame on the team that loses to them), but it prevents them from losing every game 255-0. If you ask the other 31 owners in WL I would bet that all 31 of them would say that what catch did had a tremendously positive effect on WL this season compared to if he had done nothing.

So obviously catch was not looking to build a super team with inactive players. It had nothing to do with him at all. He could have assigned the team to bort and made super powerful CPUs and put them on it - it would have accomplished the same thing but this was a much quicker solution. So can we cool it with the ignorant raging?

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
ugly can of worms opened by catch. i understand that its WL and it would look horrible to have a cpu team there, but couldnt another team have just been promoted? under no circumstances should players have been commandeered, unless those players had just been retired by now absent agents, but that too would have opened a can of worms.

Originally posted by greengoose
This has to be one of the worst suggestions on the planet - seriously. 2 wrongs don't make a right, and what is happening in the WL is just plain wrong. Somewhere a team is getting cheated out of a chance to compete in the WL because of this very suggestion.


My understanding is no, once the schedules are generated it was either do what catch did or leave a CPU there. I.e. no one is being cheated. If anything you should be mad at the team that probably knew they were going to gut and did not have the courtesy to inform support or do it in a timely manner. That is what irritates me. And it is not like it wasn't obvious. They had no QBs on the roster then entire offseason. Unfortunately no matter what you do people sometimes still find a way to do dickish things. Then someone has to come behind them and clean up the mess the best they can, which is what catch did.

Is there a logistical reason why they couldn't assemble a mini-tournament of the best available non-WL teams and let them play their way in for that spot in the pre-season? Seems like it just makes sense from a league integrity standpoint to actually have a team that wants to be there and has earned their way there - even if it is because of an 11th hour hickup.

Originally posted by tpaterniti
You do understand why he did this right? It's not like catch wanted to get his rocks off competing in WL. WL is the top league in the game and it is frankly a disgrace to have a CPU there. Besides this is messes a lot of things up. It messes up the MVP and the individual trophies, it messes up different contests like the WL fantasy league I am running (though I had nothing to do with his decision), and in general it messes up the competition of the league. The team that was there gutted and sold after schedules had already been generated, which meant that it was pretty much impossible to move another team into that slot, which is what would have happened had they gutted earlier - why they waited is beyond me - looks like a total douche move though I will withhold judgment because I don't know the circumstances behind it.

What catch did to address the problem was unprecedented but absolutely the right thing in my opinion. He bought the team because people were PMing support like crazy to buy it which we don't allow (you can't even buy pro teams - you have to earn that; this also maintains league integrity by preventing noobs from buying top teams and then destroying pro level competition). Then he filled it with dots that would at least provide a base level of competition. They won't win any games (or shame on the team that loses to them), but it prevents them from losing every game 255-0. If you ask the other 31 owners in WL I would bet that all 31 of them would say that what catch did had a tremendously positive effect on WL this season compared to if he had done nothing.

So obviously catch was not looking to build a super team with inactive players. It had nothing to do with him at all. He could have assigned the team to bort and made super powerful CPUs and put them on it - it would have accomplished the same thing but this was a much quicker solution. So can we cool it with the ignorant raging?

You do understand that the guy who did this has told me on more than one occasion "sorry, but rules are rules", right?


EDIT: This isn't about "omg! Catch is building a super team gonna kill all o' WL". It's about doing the right thing and not taking sloppy shortcuts. It's also about not saying one thing and doing another. You are so far off the mark it's ridiculous, tpat.

Originally posted by tpaterniti
He could have assigned the team to bort and made super powerful CPUs and put them on it - it would have accomplished the same thing but this was a much quicker solution. So can we cool it with the ignorant raging?

Or he could have went the non-lazy, proper route and placed a more deserving team in WL.

Once schedules are produced you can't put another team in a league. It's as simple as that. It happened 5 days or so before the season starts.

Originally posted by tpaterniti
Once schedules are produced you can't put another team in a league. It's as simple as that. It happened 5 days or so before the season starts.

^^^ this ^^^

I said it earlier and now you have said it twice (in addition to Catch saying it in the World League forum), but people just want to continue to whine.

Fact is, about all anyone will accomplish here is getting this thread locked.

Originally posted by tpaterniti
(you can't even buy pro teams - you have to earn that; this also maintains league integrity by preventing noobs from buying top teams and then destroying pro level competition).

You lose credibility right there, since I bought a pro team just last season, and I did it for the exact opposite reason that you stated. I wanted pro teams to earn the victory instead of getting a 255+ point win. I gave up mid-season once I realized how many of the FAs would rather stat pad in the D leagues, than to play on a team that was at least trying to win.

Originally posted by tpaterniti
Once schedules are produced you can't put another team in a league. It's as simple as that. It happened 5 days or so before the season starts.

They need to come up with a better way to handle this type of situation.. It should not be so difficult to swap teams prior to game 1. Poor coding is never a valid excuse. I do agree that under the circumstance, they had to do what they did, THIS TIME.

I think it was a mistake for Catch to do that with the Minnesota Junk Mailers / Dong Energy team in World League... I understand what he was trying to do to avoid having an all CPU-team in World League for a whole season after Minnesota's owner rage-quit during the pre-season, but doing it once means everyone else is gonna want to be able to do it too.

Bad enough that Catch did it once as a one-time exception. I do NOT want this becoming the norm.

If an agent goes inactive, their dots should be off-limits.

-1.

oOriginally posted by Novus
I think it was a mistake for Catch to do that with the Minnesota Junk Mailers / Dong Energy team in World League...

of course you do.

If only he could be more consistent ...