Warrior General Games

eerbody stop posting for a while

I'm trying to do something


EDIT: okay, I got bored with that


proceed

Originally posted by Greywolfmeb
I'm familiar with how it works and what it does. I should have been clearer and said I have never bothered to actually use it to build a player. I found it boring and kind of against the spirit of the game. Again, my opinion is the building process needs more random and not less.

Nicely said.

-1 to OP

I guess I didn't realize that there was such a large faction that feels the VPB is basically a cheat instead of a tool. Do you guys feel that all greasemonkey scripts should be banned, or just some of them? As in the ones you don't personally use?

Originally posted by glwarriors
Some people not familiar with the VPB seem to be under the impression that you just push a button and create the perfect dot. I would suggest that if you are not familiar with the VPB then maybe you need to refrain from chiming in. You cannot inteligently pass judgement on something you know nothing about.

I currently update the VPB, so will comment on this.

If GLB had a VPB built in in which you could plan out your build and set it to automatic, someone would immediately write a Virtual GLB VPB helper tool in Greasemonkey, which would add a button to the page to create a dot from the build plans of one of the best builders in the game.

This suggestion just cannot work on several levels.

Originally posted by glwarriors
I guess I didn't realize that there was such a large faction that feels the VPB is basically a cheat instead of a tool. Do you guys feel that all greasemonkey scripts should be banned, or just some of them? As in the ones you don't personally use?

TBH I use them all........ and they all should be banned JMO.

Originally posted by We_Rule
TBH I use them all........ and they all should be banned JMO.

if by "banned" you mean "finally put in the fucking game," i agree.

Originally posted by We_Rule
TBH I use them all........ and they all should be banned JMO.

I use them all, they are all cheats, they should all be implemented. amidoinitrong?

Kop (and others), what happens if they finally DO put in all the scripts and cheats until everything is mathematically prefect and done for you so all you have to do is push a button and produce little carbon copy dots that everyone else is also doing? I am ALL for stuff that makes GLB MUCH LESS time consuming for all aspects of gamers from dot builders to multiple team owners... but I am even more on board with Myd and Greywolf in doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to keep as much randomness/personal touch in the game as humanly possible. I have played other MUCKS, MUDDS, and MMORPG's that fall prey to this very thing... a complete lack of "personality"... where, once everybody figures out there's really only 1 good way to do something, then that's all anybody does and the game basically suffocates from stagnation. Please understand I'm not raggin on you, ProKop... I just enjoy the game and don't really wanna see it kill itself off.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Kop (and others), what happens if they finally DO put in all the scripts and cheats until everything is mathematically prefect and done for you so all you have to do is push a button and produce little carbon copy dots that everyone else is also doing? I am ALL for stuff that makes GLB MUCH LESS time consuming for all aspects of gamers from dot builders to multiple team owners... but I am even more on board with Myd and Greywolf in doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to keep as much randomness/personal touch in the game as humanly possible. I have played other MUCKS, MUDDS, and MMORPG's that fall prey to this very thing... a complete lack of "personality"... where, once everybody figures out there's really only 1 good way to do something, then that's all anybody does and the game basically suffocates from stagnation. Please understand I'm not raggin on you, ProKop... I just enjoy the game and don't really wanna see it kill itself off.

didnt read your whole paragraph but read the first and last line. Honestly, all i want to see built into the game for is the VPB, the script that shows how many ALGs are left till 79, the % script for packages and the % script for outputs. Also the "send pm" function from the forum.


thats all i really need.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Kop (and others), what happens if they finally DO put in all the scripts and cheats until everything is mathematically prefect and done for you so all you have to do is push a button and produce little carbon copy dots that everyone else is also doing? I am ALL for stuff that makes GLB MUCH LESS time consuming for all aspects of gamers from dot builders to multiple team owners... but I am even more on board with Myd and Greywolf in doing EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to keep as much randomness/personal touch in the game as humanly possible. I have played other MUCKS, MUDDS, and MMORPG's that fall prey to this very thing... a complete lack of "personality"... where, once everybody figures out there's really only 1 good way to do something, then that's all anybody does and the game basically suffocates from stagnation. Please understand I'm not raggin on you, ProKop... I just enjoy the game and don't really wanna see it kill itself off.

1. Have you ever created dots with VPB? If you have you know how hard it is to duplicate a build, even one you just did 2 minutes ago.

2. A build created in VPB is EXACTLY as individual and random as one created manually over time.

3. Based on your argument the game is already doomed, since you all fear 'cookie cutter builds of the exact same ultimate dot'. Been playing GLB a long time, and fyi the game already works that way. In general the same builds work, and the same ones don't, give or take the seasonal tweaks thrown in by Bort & Co. Hard Hitter types still suck unless you want to rack up meaningless stats playing on Kick/Punt coverage against crappy teams. If one type of build dominates the game then that is an issue within the game - not how dots get built.

I do see where there might be an issue with certain agents or teams trying to use this in a way that would be an exploit. That would need to be addressed. But for all we know there might be a select few that already do this to some extent. How do we know? If you can't stamp out the ability for agents or teams to gain unfair advantage by using tools not available to everyone, the only solution is to make those tools available to everyone.