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Originally posted by hatchman
you would still run into problems with teams sand bagging in those tournies to get into a cup cake league so they would get a cheap trophy. I like the idea of having tournies or something for the teams that do not make the playoffs. but to tie any type of promotion or demotion to it wouldn't be wise IMO simply because people would sandbag to get into easier leagues. I also do not think that there should be any trophies tied to those tournies.

so with that said I will say -1 to the suggestion unless someone can come up with a way to make it so that teams can't sandbag and take advantage of the situation to get themselves a cheap trophy in a weaker league.

Valid point.

Originally posted by hatchman
you would still run into problems with teams sand bagging in those tournies to get into a cup cake league so they would get a cheap trophy. I like the idea of having tournies or something for the teams that do not make the playoffs. but to tie any type of promotion or demotion to it wouldn't be wise IMO simply because people would sandbag to get into easier leagues. I also do not think that there should be any trophies tied to those tournies.

so with that said I will say -1 to the suggestion unless someone can come up with a way to make it so that teams can't sandbag and take advantage of the situation to get themselves a cheap trophy in a weaker league.

How would teams sandbag in consolation tournaments? GLB is not the NFL where a coach could tell his team to lose the games. If a team in GLB has the right level players, they're pretty much guaranteed to win(maybe this assessment is flawed but with GLB that's the way I see it.

Okay well maybe the consolation tournament doesn't have to have a say in promotion and demotion.

Originally posted by The Big House
Originally posted by hatchman

you would still run into problems with teams sand bagging in those tournies to get into a cup cake league so they would get a cheap trophy. I like the idea of having tournies or something for the teams that do not make the playoffs. but to tie any type of promotion or demotion to it wouldn't be wise IMO simply because people would sandbag to get into easier leagues. I also do not think that there should be any trophies tied to those tournies.

so with that said I will say -1 to the suggestion unless someone can come up with a way to make it so that teams can't sandbag and take advantage of the situation to get themselves a cheap trophy in a weaker league.

How would teams sandbag in consolation tournaments? GLB is not the NFL where a coach could tell his team to lose the games. If a team in GLB has the right level players, they're pretty much guaranteed to win(maybe this assessment is flawed but with GLB that's the way I see it.

Okay well maybe the consolation tournament doesn't have to have a say in promotion and demotion.

you had stated in a earlier post of yours in this thread that the losers of the consolation tourney would face demotion. so in age based leagues demotion means that instead of a bottom tier team in elite #1 the losing team would be put into league #2 which are usually filled with non boosting teams and CPU teams. as far as sandbagging goes have you never heard of teams putting a AI in place to do stupid things just to lose. if you haven't seen it before then I can tell you it has happened and it was a common thing back before the age based leagues came into existence. maybe you should think the suggestion through a little more and possibly revise it to some extent.

Originally posted by hatchman
you had stated in a earlier post of yours in this thread that the losers of the consolation tourney would face demotion. so in age based leagues demotion means that instead of a bottom tier team in elite #1 the losing team would be put into league #2 which are usually filled with non boosting teams and CPU teams. as far as sandbagging goes have you never heard of teams putting a AI in place to do stupid things just to lose. if you haven't seen it before then I can tell you it has happened and it was a common thing back before the age based leagues came into existence. maybe you should think the suggestion through a little more and possibly revise it to some extent.

i also said that the tournaments don't have to be the basis for the demotions.

There are a lot of teams that still tank, tbh. The minor league structure has actually made tanking much more appealing.

- Win shit league.
- Win competitive league
- Tank in elite
- Win competitive league


or


- Win shit league
- Tank in competitive league
- Win shit league
- Tank in competitive league

Originally posted by The Big House
Originally posted by hatchman

you had stated in a earlier post of yours in this thread that the losers of the consolation tourney would face demotion. so in age based leagues demotion means that instead of a bottom tier team in elite #1 the losing team would be put into league #2 which are usually filled with non boosting teams and CPU teams. as far as sandbagging goes have you never heard of teams putting a AI in place to do stupid things just to lose. if you haven't seen it before then I can tell you it has happened and it was a common thing back before the age based leagues came into existence. maybe you should think the suggestion through a little more and possibly revise it to some extent.

i also said that the tournaments don't have to be the basis for the demotions.

and my response was to address the part of your suggestion I didn't agree with. I also have stated that I like the idea of having a tourney for the team that didn't make the playoffs. but I do not see anyone really trying to do much in a consolation tourney. especially since there shouldn't be any trophies or anything given for winning the tourney. I mean winning a consolation tourney isn't much different than just giving teams a participation ribbon now is it.

lets look at it like this if you go out into the random public and ask what team won the national championship last season. what percentage would actually know? ask the same people who won the NIT championship and I bet the percentage drops tremendously. people on the game should be striving to win legitimate championships and not a consolation championship.

Originally posted by hatchman
and my response was to address the part of your suggestion I didn't agree with. I also have stated that I like the idea of having a tourney for the team that didn't make the playoffs. but I do not see anyone really trying to do much in a consolation tourney. especially since there shouldn't be any trophies or anything given for winning the tourney. I mean winning a consolation tourney isn't much different than just giving teams a participation ribbon now is it.

lets look at it like this if you go out into the random public and ask what team won the national championship last season. what percentage would actually know? ask the same people who won the NIT championship and I bet the percentage drops tremendously. people on the game should be striving to win legitimate championships and not a consolation championship.

No one shouldn't have to do much in the consolation tournament anyway, they're just like regular scrimmage games, it's just a way to replace the current scrimmage games where you're just playing scrimmage games, with the CT it can add a little importance (okay maybe about a %0.1 importance) to the games.

And by the way the second paragraph, I have no idea what the hell you're talking about or how this relates to my suggestion.

the second paragraph is referring to where the consolation tourney you are suggesting would be like the NiT tourney. go back to the first page and read the first few posts and you will find it there. my point was that the consolation tourney shouldn't have a real trophy tied to it at all. because there would be teams that were in lets say for example 7th or 8th place in their respective leagues with a few games left in the season. they know they don't have a chance of actually winning a championship. so they tank a game or 2 and get knocked out of the playoffs just to get a shot at winning the consolation tourney just to get a trophy for their team.

Originally posted by The Big House
Originally posted by tigerbloodwinning

kinda like the nit tournament

Yeah kinda like the NIT tournament.

I mentioned this post in my above post. it was the first post on the second page.

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Sounds to me like the OP wants meaningful meaningless games for free.

But if Bort ever decided to GO with this idea, I'd hope he charges a tiny little fee of 10 flex points.

Originally posted by Loco Moco -Cult-
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Sounds to me like the OP wants meaningful meaningless games for free.

But if Bort ever decided to GO with this idea, I'd hope he charges a tiny little fee of 10 flex points.



The games still wouldn't be meaningful, they're still exhibition games. They wouldn't count for anything, they'd be just like regular scrimmage games.

Originally posted by hatchman
the second paragraph is referring to where the consolation tourney you are suggesting would be like the NiT tourney. go back to the first page and read the first few posts and you will find it there. my point was that the consolation tourney shouldn't have a real trophy tied to it at all. because there would be teams that were in lets say for example 7th or 8th place in their respective leagues with a few games left in the season. they know they don't have a chance of actually winning a championship. so they tank a game or 2 and get knocked out of the playoffs just to get a shot at winning the consolation tourney just to get a trophy for their team.

I never said the winners should get a trophy at all. I didn't like the trophy idea as well.

The only thing I can see that would make sense outside of the regular playoffs is a play-in game in WL, CasPro, and PW Gold if a playoff team is demoting or selling.

Originally posted by The Big House
Originally posted by hatchman

the second paragraph is referring to where the consolation tourney you are suggesting would be like the NiT tourney. go back to the first page and read the first few posts and you will find it there. my point was that the consolation tourney shouldn't have a real trophy tied to it at all. because there would be teams that were in lets say for example 7th or 8th place in their respective leagues with a few games left in the season. they know they don't have a chance of actually winning a championship. so they tank a game or 2 and get knocked out of the playoffs just to get a shot at winning the consolation tourney just to get a trophy for their team.

I never said the winners should get a trophy at all. I didn't like the trophy idea as well.

friend I never said you did say it I was just voicing a opinion on the suggestion of a consolation tourney. you are taking this as I am attacking you or something and I am not by any means. I am just discussing different aspects of the suggestion. in most cases if there is a tourney there is some sort of trophy, ribbon, plague or something tied to winning the tourney that is where I was coming from on my perspective.

Originally posted by hatchman
friend I never said you did say it I was just voicing a opinion on the suggestion of a consolation tourney. you are taking this as I am attacking you or something and I am not by any means. I am just discussing different aspects of the suggestion. in most cases if there is a tourney there is some sort of trophy, ribbon, plague or something tied to winning the tourney that is where I was coming from on my perspective.

Gotcha, I apollogize if ti sounded like i was attacking you. It sounded like you said I said I wanted trophies for the CT winners and I was just trying to back my idea.