Warrior General Games

-1.

Suggestions mods do a pretty good job of locking threads that have been determined to be NGTH. While it would be nice in a perfect world to have an all-encompassing list of things that are NGTH it is unnecessary and I'd rather the time that the developers spend time on something more worthwhile.

Originally posted by merenoise
-1.

Suggestions mods do a pretty good job of locking threads that have been determined to be NGTH. While it would be nice in a perfect world to have an all-encompassing list of things that are NGTH it is unnecessary and I'd rather the time that the developers spend time on something more worthwhile.

a mod can do it, it would take copy paste. not exactly the work of a development team.

the main problem is a lot of the things we lock as NGTH haven't specifically been brought up before. It's flirting with other things that have been labeled NGTH etc. We have a place where we can run them by catch to verify that they are NGTH or not. If he says in that thread that they are NGTH, we put a lock down.

I'm not sure updating the list would be anything but an exercise in futility. Many people never even read the list. This is evidence from the number of threads that are made that ARE specifically listed in the NGTH list. Add to that the incredible size of a list that had everything on it would be and it would further deter people from reading it.

Basically as it is now we read a thread. If the topic has come up before as NGTH, we lock it. If it's questionable, we run it by catch who will tell us if it NGTH or if it's unlikely or whatever and we behave accordingly.

Honestly, I think that system is the best because it allows for direct interaction with someone in development, instead of us just trying to use a list and potentially locking something that didn't need to be locked.

I read over the list again...I dont see any ideas that are on there because of difficulty or laziness tbh.

Originally posted by bigtisme
I read over the list again...I dont see any ideas that are on there because of difficulty or laziness tbh.


Multi language for the site, Catch said wouldn't happen - obvious laziness and borderline racism

-Boosting and non-boosting leagues (boosting is part of the game, it's not going to be removed) - again laziness

-Locked Leagues - again laziness

DE1/DE2 custom slots - there are slots at other positions so again laziness

Custom slot additions - you already have some so again laziness

- Offensive Play Creator - based on the description given, I'm going to go with difficulty

Unlimited/Full Seasonal VA Resets - they've been done before so laziness

-Ability for players under contract to holdout and not play - laziness

Getting rid of Dleagues - laziness

would you like me to continue?

Originally posted by happylittletrees

would you like me to continue?

Not really. This is a dead issue. They update the NGTH list occasionally but as explained quite clearly, anything locked is NGTH, if you post another suggestion on the same thing that was already declared NGTH, they will just lock it and tell you it's not going to happen. Don't get upset, don't start ranting or creating more posts about how terrible moderation is. Just say, ok, and come up with something else to suggest.

If it offends you that they don't update the list enough, you could always create your own list in a private forum, make it public and show everyone the 30 page NGTH post so they know what not to post. I think after the first 20 pages you'll realize just how pointless it is to try to keep up with every single suggested thing that is marked NGTH.

Originally posted by alindyl
Not really. This is a dead issue. They update the NGTH list occasionally but as explained quite clearly, anything locked is NGTH, if you post another suggestion on the same thing that was already declared NGTH, they will just lock it and tell you it's not going to happen. Don't get upset, don't start ranting or creating more posts about how terrible moderation is. Just say, ok, and come up with something else to suggest.

If it offends you that they don't update the list enough, you could always create your own list in a private forum, make it public and show everyone the 30 page NGTH post so they know what not to post. I think after the first 20 pages you'll realize just how pointless it is to try to keep up with every single suggested thing that is marked NGTH.

do you just read the title of a suggestion and form an opinion? did you know that the list was updated for the first time 3 fucking years after it was posted? is that your definition of being updated enough? also this isn't a thread about how terrible the moderation is. it's a suggestion about updating a list they ask us to read before posting.

the rules in this forum dictate that you read that list and the rules page before posting. then they lock threads and deem and site them ngth, even if the OP has nothing related to the ngth list. so why waste your customers time by not updating the list of shit that is deemed NGTH? is it really that hard to copy paste a list of stuff you don't want your customers to post?

I'll just post this once. I'm not interested in your seeking attention here. I've read your posts, you are not interested in suggestions. You are interested in fighting with people on an internet site. I'm not. You don't have to respond to me because i won't answer back to this again.

I read the suggestion, i've commented on it twice. I explained to you exactly why it is neither a big issue, nor an insult or attack on users when they lock a post for being NGTH. I've given this a -1 not because i don't think they should have to update the list. It would be fine if they did, but people don't read through it anyways. If they extend it to every possible NGTH post immediately after locking posts, the list would be 20+ screen lengths (maybe using the word page is misleading) long would guarantee people never read through it.

As explained in my first post- New people won't read through a 20 screen length post about what not to post. They don't look at it now. Even experienced players for the most part won't read through it. People who have spent a lot of time in suggestions know from seeing suggestions get locked and scanning the NGTH list and thus the NGTH generally isn't needed for them. The NGTH post is already 6 screen lengths long (on my pc). Adding everything ever posted that is locked to the list would make it just overly bloated.

And finally in my opinion this isn't a suggestion, it's a complaint. It's basically a "bort fix the sim" post and i'm surprised this hasn't been locked up yet but thats up to the moderators.

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Originally posted by happylittletrees

Multi language for the site, Catch said wouldn't happen - obvious laziness and borderline racism

I'll actually give you this one

-Boosting and non-boosting leagues (boosting is part of the game, it's not going to be removed) - again laziness
-Locked Leagues - again laziness

Not lazy...just not the direction they want the game to go. For balance, business issue, or otherwise

DE1/DE2 custom slots - there are slots at other positions so again laziness
Custom slot additions - you already have some so again laziness

Dont pretend to be this stupid...I know you're not. They aren't adding more slots so the game doesn't get more complicated

- Offensive Play Creator - based on the description given, I'm going to go with difficulty

Nope...every game has taken out a play creator because of glitches...including madden who has multiply teams of coders. Its impossible to do.

Unlimited/Full Seasonal VA Resets - they've been done before so laziness

Its not lazy....more of a balance issue

-Ability for players under contract to holdout and not play - laziness

or because its a fucking stupid?

Getting rid of Dleagues - laziness

lol wat? They aren't getting rid of the D leagues because players need a home...even the QBs who build horrible

would you like me to continue?

sure you can continue. But its just plain not the case...its not a laziness thing that those suggestions are on the list.

Originally posted by bigtisme
Anything locked as NGTH has been said by catch or bort that its NGTH. Not really a power trip for the mods. I would suggest any issue with a locked thread could easily be taken to a pm to catch.

Thats what everyone says. If you have a problem then pm a mod.

Lets state that probably 95% of the mods are good people, but it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that some have a 10 year olds mentality.

Ive made suggestion threads where a certain mod would lock and only say something like "this will not work", basically making a judgement call and then months later someone else will make a similar suggestion and it will be allowed to stay.

my problem mod isnt a mod anymore just an fyi. I have no personal vendetta against any of the current staff but I also hardly ever post anymore.

I didn't say pm a mod...I said pm catch. Catch is a paid employee of GLB.

What about the NGTH things that actually happened due to mass complaining?

Originally posted by bigtisme
sure you can continue. But its just plain not the case...its not a laziness thing that those suggestions are on the list.

Not seperating leagues where teams boost and don't boost is good for balance how? So you have teams that drastically out perform others? Makes no sense.

I said opc was due to difficulty, however in both the madden and ncaa franchises there have been play creators for both side for about 8 years. And ea sports head coach also has a playcreator for both sides of the ball.

The reason listed for not getting d leagues is so players have more choices for where they want their dot to be. You get rid of the d leagues you have more players on human owned teams.

Holdouts are a real thing. Would it be stupid if holding out had temporary sp decreases and chemistry hits? There are all kinds of realism this game lacks. Realism adds depth.

Also adding those slots would make the game too complicated. It would make it more flexible for the people running the Dc and Ai.