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Originally posted by MadCow DTD
Im 25, i dont know or care what reagan did before me... Im just not going to have my taxes pay for pedro and his 12 illegal kids to have Iphones and flat screen tvs...


and yea, My personal taxes went up when Obama took office. everyone's did (cept the illegals). when you tax small business, that trickles down to everyone, and owning my own business, I felt it.



So what do you want cut? If you bring in less taxes, you have to cut things. What should be cut? But more importantly, what SHOULDN'T be cut? That is big the question. And a personal question....did you get any Small Business funding help? If so, probably came from a government assisted program.

I am not a huge Obama supporter. But I see nothing better on the Republican side.

And you need to look at history to look at now. Look at what worked and didn't work in the past. You have to learn from the past, right? If not, then you have to make mistakes now and learn from them. I am sure with your small business you learned at least some things from others on how to run things. And probably have made a few mistake and learned from them.

This shouldn't be a Republican vs. Democrat thing. When you make it that then it just becomes a fight and not about the issues. Sadly our system is what side you're are on...when many times the same issue changes side and it is fought about again, with sides simply getting changed....and the same argument is used by the other party.
 
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Originally posted by MadCow DTD

and yea, My personal taxes went up when Obama took office. everyone's did (cept the illegals). when you tax small business, that trickles down to everyone, and owning my own business, I felt it.


I happen to know a great deal about our tax system, and I can assure you that's simply not true. Obama did not raise your taxes, Cameron.
 
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I happen to know a great deal about our tax system, and I can assure you that's simply not true. Obama did not raise your taxes, Cameron.


Shh......you will ruin all the talking points.
 
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Originally posted by fool
Originally posted by MadCow DTD


and yea, My personal taxes went up when Obama took office. everyone's did (cept the illegals). when you tax small business, that trickles down to everyone, and owning my own business, I felt it.


I happen to know a great deal about our tax system, and I can assure you that's simply not true. Obama did not raise your taxes, Cameron.


lol jumping to conclusions,, Obama's tax increases have affected everyone. anyone who buys bottled water has felt his increase, despite his promise that his tax increases wouldnt affect people who made over 125k or whatever the number was.. Its just not true.
 
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Originally posted by MadCow DTD
lol jumping to conclusions,, Obama's tax increases have affected everyone. anyone who buys bottled water has felt his increase, despite his promise that his tax increases wouldnt affect people who made over 125k or whatever the number was.. Its just not true.


You shouldn't buy bottled water. They pollute our earth greatly. Easy to get clean water without the polluting
 
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Originally posted by joemalaka

Originally posted by MadCow DTD

Im 25, i dont know or care what reagan did before me... Im just not going to have my taxes pay for pedro and his 12 illegal kids to have Iphones and flat screen tvs...


and yea, My personal taxes went up when Obama took office. everyone's did (cept the illegals). when you tax small business, that trickles down to everyone, and owning my own business, I felt it.



So what do you want cut? If you bring in less taxes, you have to cut things. What should be cut? But more importantly, what SHOULDN'T be cut? That is big the question. And a personal question....did you get any Small Business funding help? If so, probably came from a government assisted program.

I am not a huge Obama supporter. But I see nothing better on the Republican side.

And you need to look at history to look at now. Look at what worked and didn't work in the past. You have to learn from the past, right? If not, then you have to make mistakes now and learn from them. I am sure with your small business you learned at least some things from others on how to run things. And probably have made a few mistake and learned from them.

This shouldn't be a Republican vs. Democrat thing. When you make it that then it just becomes a fight and not about the issues. Sadly our system is what side you're are on...when many times the same issue changes side and it is fought about again, with sides simply getting changed....and the same argument is used by the other party.


I want to to drug test everyone on food stamps or state or federal assistance, if you cant afford to live, you should have money for drugs. I was every illegal out. they are a burden on people who pay taxes. a flat tax is the only way to make sure everyone pays taxes. but that will never happen. If you cant afford a house, why the hell should the Gov help you buy something you cant afford. the current systems set people up to fail. Why would they gets jobs if they could just keep popping kids out. There is no personal responsability anymore. everyone is looking for a fucking handout.. cut it all.. If you cant afford health care. get a better job. The whole system is a joke
 
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Here's the real problem with the Republican Party - it no longer belongs to the people who believe in small government and fiscally conservative policies. It now belongs to people who believe the world is 6000 years old, that homosexuality is a sin, that distrust science and believe that teaching evolution is wrong, and that freedom of religion only applies to the various sects of Christianity.

You can fault Obama for many things, but at least he's trying to improve our country. There are many Republican lawmakers who have stated their #1 political goal is to ensure that Obama has no chance for reelection. They'd rather see our country damaged and our citizens suffer than see any of the President's policies succeed. To me, that's repugnant. Your sole duty as a politician is to serve the interests of your constituents, when and if you stray from that you have no business holding public office.
 
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Originally posted by joemalaka
Originally posted by MadCow DTD

lol jumping to conclusions,, Obama's tax increases have affected everyone. anyone who buys bottled water has felt his increase, despite his promise that his tax increases wouldnt affect people who made over 125k or whatever the number was.. Its just not true.


You shouldn't buy bottled water. They pollute our earth greatly. Easy to get clean water without the polluting


I dont care about the planet. i dont care about whales, i dont care about trees, If you care about the planet, congrats, but i dont care
 
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Originally posted by fool
Here's the real problem with the Republican Party - it no longer belongs to the people who believe in small government and fiscally conservative policies. It now belongs to people who believe the world is 6000 years old, that homosexuality is a sin, that distrust science and believe that teaching evolution is wrong, and that freedom of religion only applies to the various sects of Christianity.

You can fault Obama for many things, but at least he's trying to improve our country. There are many Republican lawmakers who have stated their #1 political goal is to ensure that Obama has no chance for reelection. They'd rather see our country damaged and our citizens suffer than see any of the President's policies succeed. To me, that's repugnant. Your sole duty as a politician is to serve the interests of your constituents, when and if you stray from that you have no business holding public office.


every politician has stupid special interests. Lobbiest are the worst part of the whole thing. Nothing can be changed or passed with out useless pork or side deals they had to make to get it passed. I would prefer a bible thumper over a tree huger
 
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Originally posted by MadCow DTD
I want to to drug test everyone on food stamps or state or federal assistance, if you cant afford to live, you should have money for drugs. I was every illegal out. they are a burden on people who pay taxes. a flat tax is the only way to make sure everyone pays taxes. but that will never happen. If you cant afford a house, why the hell should the Gov help you buy something you cant afford. the current systems set people up to fail. Why would they gets jobs if they could just keep popping kids out. There is no personal responsability anymore. everyone is looking for a fucking handout.. cut it all.. If you cant afford health care. get a better job. The whole system is a joke


Thanks for avoiding all the questions I basically asked, that could have made a discussion on this. Instead you want to scream..you don't want to have an educated discussion.

PS - I am a Ron Paul supporter who will vote for Obama over any other Republican running (other than Paul). That says a lot...because Obama and Paul are on separate parts of the scale.
Edited by joemalaka on Nov 21, 2011 14:29:26
 
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Originally posted by joemalaka
Thanks for avoiding all the questions I basically asked, that could have made a discussion on this. Instead you want to scream..you don't want to have an educated discussion.


Pretty sure you need an education in order to have an educated discussion.
 
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Originally posted by fool
Originally posted by joemalaka

Thanks for avoiding all the questions I basically asked, that could have made a discussion on this. Instead you want to scream..you don't want to have an educated discussion.


Pretty sure you need an education in order to have an educated discussion.


LOL both of you.. I has plenty degrees..I just dont need them to know you are both fubar
 
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Originally posted by MadCow DTD
LOL both of you.. I has plenty degrees..I just dont need them to know you are both fubar


You don't have shit Cameron, or the schools you went to are a fucking joke. Your ideas on a flat tax and on the illegal immigrant situation are a clear reflection on how (un)developed you are from a cognizant standpoint. You have no idea what is going on... your beliefs and stance is based entirely on emotion not rationality. Dude, you can't even spell or write complete sentences and my 3rd grader has better grasp on English grammar than you do.
 
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Originally posted by fool
You don't have shit Cameron, or the schools you went to are a fucking joke. Your ideas on a flat tax and on the illegal immigrant situation are a clear reflection on how (un)developed you are from a cognizant standpoint. You have no idea what is going on... your beliefs and stance is based entirely on emotion not rationality. Dude, you can't even spell or write complete sentences and my 3rd grader has better grasp on English grammar than you do.


Oh and make sure to re-sign your contract I'll be sending out today.
 
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