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ManOgwaR
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Originally posted by The Eagle
Originally posted by _OSIRIS_

I'm borderline rage quitting. This is bullshit.


anybody who does anything on defense has to have at least thought along those lines this season...


I made the call in the offseason about the D and was criticised for it ...and I had already made the decision to go CPU with my team for this season coz of it, so I am way ahead of yas!
 
zmj44
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Yeah its pretty fucking stupid

Things wrong:

TE coverage is a joke
Cant guard slants
pump fake
WRs can block 3 guys
You can't leave anybody in single coverage
Pass everytime and you will score every time
 
Bevo05
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Originally posted by zmj44
Yeah its pretty fucking stupid

Things wrong:

TE coverage is a joke
Cant guard slants
pump fake
WRs can block 3 guys
You can't leave anybody in single coverage
Pass everytime and you will score every time


LOL half the gold teams are giving up less than 4 td's a game.........so its hardly score everytime. I would say the game is a little more offensive than in the past few season. but it is early and the defense seems to catch up later in the season. all those reasons you listed are not new. They have been that way for several seasons......especially early.

but hey if PNP struggles then it must be the sims fault.........

last time i checked we are all playing the same sim. And you are not playing against the sim but against the other team. So if you have to score more to win then score more and win.......

 
e1iterate
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hey zmj maybe its time you actually learned some D rather than copying RK's
 
ManOgwaR
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Originally posted by Bevo05

LOL half the gold teams are giving up less than 4 td's a game.........so its hardly score everytime. I would say the game is a little more offensive than in the past few season. but it is early and the defense seems to catch up later in the season. all those reasons you listed are not new. They have been that way for several seasons......especially early.

but hey if PNP struggles then it must be the sims fault.........

last time i checked we are all playing the same sim. And you are not playing against the sim but against the other team. So if you have to score more to win then score more and win.......



LOL spoken like a true gold league OC
 
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Originally posted by Bevo05
LOL half the gold teams are giving up less than 4 td's a game.........so its hardly score everytime. I would say the game is a little more offensive than in the past few season. but it is early and the defense seems to catch up later in the season. all those reasons you listed are not new. They have been that way for several seasons......especially early.


I am neither an OC nor a DC guru, but I do my best at both and I have to agree with Bevo on this one. There are defensive plays that take away the slants, but sacrifices other things and there is defense that can be grossly exploited by slants. When a DC calls plays that can be slant exploited 90% of the time, any decent OC will pick a large percentage of plays that uses the slants.

I think most of us are like Al Davis (Some have a better look). We love the fast 40, the big arm and the strong lineman, but we forget to think about what the dot can do on the field. Most of the dots at this time in Pee Wee are fast dwarf with an IQ below 65. I think it is expected that they run out of bound try to go through a bunch of defenders calculates an interception point wrongly etc.

P.S I do not mean any offense to dwarf.
Edited by simski on May 26, 2011 02:01:53
Edited by simski on May 26, 2011 02:01:20
 
ManOgwaR
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Originally posted by simski
I am neither an OC nor a DC guru


...then how can you have an opinion on this? ...is Bevo giving you a puppet lesson in your pants or what?!?

...ok then I was just teasing you, but you may have a valid point about this coz if my understanding is correct, then you are implying that we are building our dots wrong for peewee defenses ya?!?
Edited by ManOgwaR on May 26, 2011 02:58:21
Edited by ManOgwaR on May 26, 2011 02:38:05
 
PING72
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With Bort's coded passing boost level 8 seems a dumping point, passing normally gets tougher right around then. Let's see what happens.
 
The Eagle
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Originally posted by PING72
With Bort's coded passing boost level 8 seems a dumping point, passing normally gets tougher right around then. Let's see what happens.


yeah...seems like each level up is almost a sim change this season...

I bet we end up pretty balanced by playoffs (well, more balanced than we are right now, anyway), especially for yes/yes teams...but the problem will be that we won't have had much time to adjust to that "sim" with level 13/14 dots.
 
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Originally posted by simski

I am neither an OC nor a DC guru, but I do my best at both and I have to agree with Bevo on this one. There are defensive plays that take away the slants, but sacrifices other things and there is defense that can be grossly exploited by slants. When a DC calls plays that can be slant exploited 90% of the time, any decent OC will pick a large percentage of plays that uses the slants.
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Yeah defenses can't just run out the same defense all the time against a formation and expect it will work all the time. Some of the new plays have opened up some of the formations so that the defenses can't stack against certain plays as much too
 
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Originally posted by sigepmagicmike
hey zmj maybe its time you actually learned some D rather than copying RK's


Hey maybe you take a team to gold without using only RKs Ds.

Try the number 3 D in gold last season and the number 4 this season with SB. last time I checked RK wasn't coordinating in gold
Oh or 4 out of the last 5 conference championship games featured zmj
 
zmj44
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Originally posted by Bevo05
LOL half the gold teams are giving up less than 4 td's a game.........so its hardly score everytime. I would say the game is a little more offensive than in the past few season. but it is early and the defense seems to catch up later in the season. all those reasons you listed are not new. They have been that way for several seasons......especially early.

but hey if PNP struggles then it must be the sims fault.........

last time i checked we are all playing the same sim. And you are not playing against the sim but against the other team. So if you have to score more to win then score more and win.......



Jeez havent you learned by now?
 
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Originally posted by zmj44
Hey maybe you take a team to gold without using only RKs Ds.

Try the number 3 D in gold last season and the number 4 this season with SB. last time I checked RK wasn't coordinating in gold
Oh or 4 out of the last 5 conference championship games featured zmj


 
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Originally posted by zmj44
Hey maybe you take a team to gold without using only RKs Ds.

Try the number 3 D in gold last season and the number 4 this season with SB. last time I checked RK wasn't coordinating in gold
Oh or 4 out of the last 5 conference championship games featured zmj


Just to make it clear, sigmike pretty much did everything for BSBR. He recruited all the players, came up with majority of the build plans and did all the coordinating. I barely did anything but originally just gave him couple of lolbase-defense to work with which would be garbage and too easy to exploit if you don't make any adjustments. I'm sure he did or else he played handicapped

Mike is definitely a top notch gold league owner/coordinator however you put it. It's too bad he didn't get a real opportunity since he was screwed twice by his agents in his both tries. But I guess that's what you expect when you have like millions of agents in your team. Mike's team had 40-50 agents or something like that lol
 
e1iterate
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RK is being modest. He was the sole reason I started up BSBR. If it wasnt for him I would have never done it. I dont think it was quite 40 agents but we definately had 25+ agents. And yeah RK did give me some base Defenses to work with but he did help me a lot though since I consider myself more of an offense guy. Either way you kick it BSBR was very successful and it sucked when I had an agent not sign in for weeks then the whole multi issue that I turned in whoever that was and that screwed me early in the season lol.
 
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