Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Djinnt
Originally posted by MileHighShoes

I want 90+ natural tackling... let me experiment in peace.
Heavens forbid a defender dump SP's into speed SECOND! GASP!!!

120 speed, 100 tackling 75 vision, 73 agility 68 strength

dumping SP's in change direction to offset agility... If people think momentum is so important in the FF roll I plan to find out while also having high enough tackling to do some damage. Maybe I'll find out that hard hitters need strength... But I have trouble believing that right now.

Also, this build is almost exactly like my SS
123 speed, 90 tackling, 80 vision, 71 agility, 74 strength
I used to have a little over 100 tackling and 115 speed, but changed because that's too slow in Pro. However, with new ALGs much higher numbers are easy to reach so you could go 130+ speed and 100 tackling pretty easy if you use textbook.
I mean, my guy only has 2 AEQ and one is missing an upgrade. That's another 7 speed right there, bringing it to 130. That plus ALGs, an SS who uses the same build path will be a wrecking ball. A very fast wrecking ball, too.

if you are talking about this SS:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=1166870&playoffs=0

then 35 tackles, 10 missed tackles and 2 FFs, is not a very good tackling ratio.

you can have 100000 tackling, and you will miss tackles. don't waste the SPs on going crazy with tackling. it can be better used in Agility, strength, jumping, stamina. anything, tbh.

Originally posted by TruBucfan22
if you are talking about this SS:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=1166870&playoffs=0

then 35 tackles, 10 missed tackles and 2 FFs, is not a very good tackling ratio.

you can have 100000 tackling, and you will miss tackles. don't waste the SPs on going crazy with tackling. it can be better used in Agility, strength, jumping, stamina. anything, tbh.


People with less tackling miss more tackles.
You might want to look at a season before my team was gutted also.
My SS also didn't go crazy on tackling. lol
imo, if a player with the kind of modifiers my SS has isn't making a decent mtk to fumble ratio, it's not a build issue.

Originally posted by Djinnt
People with less tackling miss more tackles.
You might want to look at a season before my team was gutted also.
My SS also didn't go crazy on tackling. lol
imo, if a player with the kind of modifiers my SS has isn't making a decent mtk to fumble ratio, it's not a build issue.

Actually I think it is your build. Add about 15 points of agility and you will miss far fewer tackles.

Originally posted by tautology
Actually I think it is your build. Add about 15 points of agility and you will miss far fewer tackles.

Oh, right, I'll just move those over from confidence.

Originally posted by Djinnt
Oh, right, I'll just move those over from confidence.

This guy
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1173114

would have better numbers than you quoted, and have 85 agility on top of that if I rearranged his equipment and VAs. He would also have 9 in big hit and monster hit, and 8 in head hunter or first step if I rearranged his aeq and SA expenditures. He would also have more stamina, confidence and jumping than your dot.

You have a lot of point inefficiency in your SA tree, I think that is your primary problem.

It's tough to build a hard hitter and yours is a pretty decent shot at it for a player of your generation...just didn't work out quite right

But my point is that you should not assume that your dot is built perfectly for his role, and therefore since he is not doing what you'd hoped, the whole concept must therefore be bunk.

It's a viable concept, you were just a little off on the execution...and a HH build can't afford to be off much at all in order to be effective.

Also, this guy: http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=1173164&playoffs=0

Has the same tackling and strength as you, and no wrap up tackle at all and he has missed 1 tackle with 19 made in WL...playing on power tackling 100 % of the time. Only 3 FF which is disappointing...but he is not missing many tackles, proving once again that your build is not very well optimized for tackling efficiently.

Sorry

Originally posted by tautology

But my point is that you should not assume that your dot is built perfectly for his role, and therefore since he is not doing what you'd hoped, the whole concept must therefore be bunk.

Not perfect, but one of the best in the game right now imo.
Your comparison assumes everybody my SS plays against has a perfect build, and so therefor I am at a disadvantage.

Originally posted by tautology

Also, this guy: http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=1173164&playoffs=0

Has the same tackling and strength as you, and no wrap up tackle at all and he has missed 1 tackle with 19 made in WL...playing on power tackling 100 % of the time. Only 3 FF which is disappointing...but he is not missing many tackles, proving once again that your build is not very well optimized for tackling efficiently.

Sorry



your team isn't getting blown out almost every game

Also, kinda silly for that HH safety to have DvG considering it won't work against pretty much any WR, elusive speed/spin backs, TEs, and even a lot of combo HBs. Personally i'd go sure tackler there. I'd also rather have higher agility than vision for that kinda build

that build is ok but i think there are some issues that if fixed would result in less missed tackles

You guys are straying from the point focusing on my build.
My point is that higher tackling results in more tackles made.
Somebody in this thread advocates hardly any focus in tackling, because "you'll miss tackles anyway." I'm pointing out that I disagree with this. That's all.
Fuck my build. Who cares?

I for one will never try a FF build. Seems to be too random at equal competition for me.