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Originally posted by bigtisme
Originally posted by chad13

lol @ the people pretending like kicking is the only unrealistic/overpowered aspect of the game. Holding 8 teams to negative cumulative rush yards is clearly working as intended and very realistic huh?

Sadly my RB still has the best game of the season against philly

If you're going by avg carry, then yes, but MJD had .5 more yards

Better YPC and one less fumble. I'll take ricky.

Originally posted by bigtisme
Better YPC and one less fumble. I'll take ricky.

I'll take 8-0

Originally posted by Serenity
Originally posted by chad13

lol @ the people pretending like kicking is the only unrealistic/overpowered aspect of the game. Holding 8 teams to negative cumulative rush yards is clearly working as intended and very realistic huh?

Difference is that sacks count against the rush total.

Your right...so I guess it's realistic to hold teams to an average of 12.5 rush ypg? I'd say it's more realistic to hit 62.5 yarders than for run defenses to be THAT dominant.

Originally posted by chad13
Originally posted by bigtisme

Better YPC and one less fumble. I'll take ricky.

I'll take 8-0

Damn straight we will KZOO FTW

Completely agree with your point Chad, can't see how they can bitch about one aspect of the game going against them when they can shut down the ru like they have, especially when you consider the length that their Kicker was hitting them from

Originally posted by chad13
Originally posted by bigtisme

Better YPC and one less fumble. I'll take ricky.

I'll take 8-0

OWNED

The difference is that RBs vs D-line is a perspective stat. That's the best term I can think of. The RBs effectiveness is matched against the D-line's and they go hand in hand. You could get the same results if you were all at level 5-10, 20-25, 40-45, 60-65, etc. It is relative. The kicking is an absolute stat. The kicker goes against no one but the laws of physics. And what this K is doing is making a mockery of the game. That is how ludicrous it is. The average NFL % for kicks 50-55 yards is 60-65% accuracy, yet he is automatic from 60+. An NFL kicker would be lucky to hit just 1 60+ in his entire career. I have numbers to back this. Also we are talking about a player only about 55-60% of th level he will finally be. Once his kicking bar gets up to 90, then he should be able to kick 50 yarders at about 65%, 55 yarders at about 30%, and 60 yarders at 8-10%. That is realistic.

I will add as I get them.

ESPN top 10 rated kickers - accuracy beyond 50 yards

1. Adam Vinatieri: 8-17 - 47%
2. David Akers: 12-20 - 60%
3. Neil Rackers: 18-37 - 49%
4. Rian Lindell: 14-22 - 64%
5. Robbie Gould: 0-2 - 0%
6. Josh Brown: 13-22 - 59%
7. Phil Dawson: 7-9 - 78%
8. Shayne Graham: 7-14 - 50%
9. Nate Kaeding: 5-8 - 63%
10. Matt Bryant: 2-7 - 29%
11. Jason Elam: 37-61 - 61%

OK I went to 11. Phil Dawson's % is incredible, but remember he has only attempted 9 tries over 50 yards in his 10 year career. Also consider that most NFL coaches won't even try a kick if it is going to be longer than 55 yards. Jason Elam is a great case study, because he is quite possibly the best long-ball kicker in the NFL ever. That is why he has attempted a mind-blowing 61 kicks from over 50 yards, and he also holds the current record for longest kick at 63 yards. But notice the more you attempt from over 50 yards, the more your average falls into the norm, which is about 60% for really good kickers. Also note that these kicks are 50+ yards, and I would say 90% of them are 50-55 yards. As I said an NFL coach would very very rarely have his kicker attempt a kick over 55 yards. If they had a stat for % on kicks over 60 yards, the completion would probably be close to 10%.

Okay, we're not arguing that kicking is perfect in GLB. I don't know how many times I'm gonna have to point that out. WE KNOW KICKING ISN'T REALISTIC. That isn't in question so please stop with all this "evidence" that it isn't realistic, we know.

My point is that even though D-line vs. HB's is "relative" it's still broken. In fact, it's ABSOLUTELY broken. You can show all these kickers who have never had such a high 50+ yard FG% as Finkle but all I would have to do is list every team from every year in NFL history to show you how no defensive line has ever been so dominant. In fact, it has become so bad that is almost an "absolute" statistic. There's nothing you can do about Ray Finkle correct? Well there's nothing ANY team can do about Philly's run defense. At that point, it is no longer relative. The HB doesn't even matter anymore. Let's look at YPC for starting HB's vs. Philly.

1. Blake Riggins | 0.3 YPC
2. Ricky Smoka lil | 2.5 YPC
3. Hallen Azzo | 1.4 YPC
4. Gott Verdammt | -1.3 YPC
5. Juan Capeles | -.7 YPC
6. Hanif Carroll | -.3 YPC
7. Minkus Buttkus | 1.5 YPC (he's a FB since DLJ's HB had 0 rushing attempts)
8. Maurice Jones-Drew | 1.6 YPC

Now, if you can tell me that this isn't as overpowering as big leg kickers who are deadly accurate, then your just lying to yourself. 3 of those players have negative rushing yards. Only 3 of them managed to have more than 10 yards. Only Ricky and MJD managed more than 30 yards. None of them went higher than 40 yards.

To me, it's pretty clear that both are screwed up but it seems extremely weak and immature to repeatedly complain and blame one broken aspect of the game (kicking) for a loss when it's clear that your team is taking advantage of another broken aspect.

Originally posted by Jed
Yea, the K-Zoo Finkles beat us today. Forget MVP, I think there needs to be a better award created for when a player is so good they have to change how the game works.

It happened for Julius Brown in Alpha and now for Finkle and Flames' WR this season.

"Breaking the game award"

"Setting the precedent award"

"Paradigm shift award"

To our credit, a good chunk of those RBs played on pretty bad teams against us. But I agree, something needs to be done about the running game.

And I like the Paradigm Shift Award

Originally posted by awesome
"Breaking the game award"

Game-breaker Award sounds cooler though

This kicker kicked our ass today, I'll call him thunder foot.

Even our Sunday pre-game prayer wasn't enough to beat thunder foot, this dude get's my vote!

As much as I like Finkle, I'm really frustrated with our offense this season. I know all QB performances are down this season, but it's too much IMO.

Join the club Ronin Great game BTW, glad we gave you guys a tuff time out there