Warrior General Games

Originally posted by itsallgood1234
I think you took the power back thing too far. 50 strength sounds insane for a power back at that level unless your specials are jacked up as well.

If i were you if your speed, agility and vision are in line I'd work the hell out of your specials because the strength only helps you break tackles in conjunction with speed until you get your specials up in the power back tree.

The problem is you may have ignored something extremely important like vision or agility which are more important earlier on for the power backs.

lol, are you serious? My powerback is level 11 and has more strength than that. I expect to have 65-70+ strength by the time I get to level 17. What's the point of being a powerback if you aren't powerful enough to break tackles from most players? Most speedbacks try and have 60+ speed AND agility by the time they're level 17.

Look at what you had to sacrifice to get your strength that high. By the time your strength is 65-70, LBs and DTs will have high enough tackling and hard-hitter abilities that you will have trouble holding onto the ball with your extremely low carrying, and get demoralized with your poor confidence. They will be quicker and in many cases faster than you. They will seal up holes before you can see them or react to them.

Just because you're a "power" back doesn't mean you don't need to follow your blockers, look for holes, make cuts, and hold the ball. You're just a halfback with an emphasis in breaking tackles. Good halfbacks do all of the above, regardless of emphasis.

Originally posted by Primate
I started a back as a power Back, but he was my first build, and I wasted a lot of early points on the power SA's. Then I read that physical stature matters, and my guy is tall and lanky, so I switched to elusive around level 8 and focused on speed/agility/vision in that order, as well as getting some points into the elusive tree. AT a little higher levels, I started getting TFL'ed and stripped all the time, so I put some points into strength. Now I am thinking about getting my strength even with my speed to have a decent combo back by the end of the year.

I may have to get to level 25 or so before he starts to pay off, but he is fully experimental at this point.

but... i don't think height/weight matters that much because i see lots of dts that weight like 270 pounds and still mow through the line. same thing for running backs some power back i saw weighed 195 at 6"4 and he was averaging 5.6 yards per carry.

Originally posted by Omacky73
Look at what you had to sacrifice to get your strength that high. By the time your strength is 65-70, LBs and DTs will have high enough tackling and hard-hitter abilities that you will have trouble holding onto the ball with your extremely low carrying, and get demoralized with your poor confidence. They will be quicker and in many cases faster than you. They will seal up holes before you can see them or react to them.

Just because you're a "power" back doesn't mean you don't need to follow your blockers, look for holes, make cuts, and hold the ball. You're just a halfback with an emphasis in breaking tackles. Good halfbacks do all of the above, regardless of emphasis.
Bort said strength helps with breaking tackles and ball control.
but by the time your strength is 65-70... you will be strong enough to plow through linebackers and DE.... okay.. if your strenhth is seriously 65-70 which is more than any linebackers..... i don't think you will be very effected by the confidence.... as... lots of moderators say, tacking isn't something you should overdo because strength/agility/speed affects your tackling

Originally posted by Cmmfan
Originally posted by Omacky73

Look at what you had to sacrifice to get your strength that high. By the time your strength is 65-70, LBs and DTs will have high enough tackling and hard-hitter abilities that you will have trouble holding onto the ball with your extremely low carrying, and get demoralized with your poor confidence. They will be quicker and in many cases faster than you. They will seal up holes before you can see them or react to them.

Just because you're a "power" back doesn't mean you don't need to follow your blockers, look for holes, make cuts, and hold the ball. You're just a halfback with an emphasis in breaking tackles. Good halfbacks do all of the above, regardless of emphasis.
Bort said strength helps with breaking tackles and ball control.
but by the time your strength is 65-70... you will be strong enough to plow through linebackers and DE.... okay.. if your strenhth is seriously 65-70 which is more than any linebackers..... i don't think you will be very effected by the confidence.... as... lots of moderators say, tacking isn't something you should overdo because strength/agility/speed affects your tackling



Sure, Strength helps. That doesn't mean you don't need Carrying. The main purpose of Carrying is to keep you from fumbling...and it also helps you break tackles. Seems semi-important for a power back. It's like how Strength helps an OL block, but that doesn't mean you can walk around with a 19 in Blocking at lvl 16.

Why wouldn't you be affected by low Confidence? The Snarl ability is designed to shake your confidence and make you less effective. Plus, if you do drop the ball or get stuffed, you'll start to suck far quicker than if you had more Confidence.

LVL 16 Power HB

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 60.48 Blocking: 13
Speed: 31.15 Tackling: 9
Agility: 30.48 Throwing: 13
Jumping: 13 Catching: 13
Stamina: 32.04 Carrying: 27.42
Vision: 24.41 Kicking: 9
Confidence: 21.17 Punting: 7

Elusive 2,2,0,0,0
Power 3,3,2,3,1

Rate and let me know where I should focus on for the next few levels. Thanks.

Originally posted by Logan Ayala
LVL 16 Power HB

Physical Attributes Football Skills
Strength: 60.48 Blocking: 13
Speed: 31.15 Tackling: 9
Agility: 30.48 Throwing: 13
Jumping: 13 Catching: 13
Stamina: 32.04 Carrying: 27.42
Vision: 24.41 Kicking: 9
Confidence: 21.17 Punting: 7

Elusive 2,2,0,0,0
Power 3,3,2,3,1

Rate and let me know where I should focus on for the next few levels. Thanks.

I'd say lay off strength a bit and focus on following your blockers and getting to the hole.

The game breaks down at higher levels. Hardly anyone has a reliable running game at 18-25. Until Bort fixes the game it doesn't matter what you do...

Check out this power HB's build: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=143990

Originally posted by fallingmercury
The game breaks down at higher levels. Hardly anyone has a reliable running game at 18-25. Until Bort fixes the game it doesn't matter what you do...

I disagree completely. Most of the teams who can't run the ball have poorly built HB's, a poorly built OL, or both.

This isn't an attempt to brag, merely to support my view:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=554

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=596

http://goallineblitz.com/game/team_stats.pl?league_id=17&conference_id=0&stat=rushing&playoffs=0

Also, look at the average rushes per game of the top 10 teams on that list, then go look at the league's standings.

Originally posted by Viscount
Check out this power HB's build: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=143990

That's a good example of a solidly-built power back.

I rather be really good in one then decent in both. I've seen a RB that is 5+ levels below the competition with REALLY high strength and good speed with 3 or more in every power back SA and none in elusive, and he breaks a lot of tackles and has 4.8 avg.

Originally posted by Viscount
Check out this power HB's build: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=143990

Looks good.

But if you look at who they played it looks like half the games / teams on their schedule were blowouts.

I have a 21 elusive back and a 16 power back.

Elusive back is sucking right now(mnaybe due to OL)
Power back is number one in the league(maybe due to OL)

Power backs are better because they can just break the tackles. Get really high strength with some good speed, and you'll run a lot of people over. You always see seconddary players getting their speed and agility up, but not really strength or a lot of tackling. Hit them where they're weak and run 'em over.