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Murkine
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Originally posted by joeyjojok
with all of this do you guys think a 140 throwing - 90 vision is better than a 130 throwing - 100 vision????


No. I would take 130/100.
 
Murkine
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Originally posted by megaman1337
Originally posted by OVERKILL

Originally posted by megaman1337


Results don't lie.


Not generally, but they also don't always tell the whole story. Just a quick peruse of the teams showed that your basis is skewed.


No offense, but wrong.



Actually, he's right. Results don't tell the whole story. Not saying you are (mostly because I don't have time to research your team) but if you are getting these results in blowout games then the results don't mean anything.

A true testament of results not lying would be those results gathered in close games or losses. Blowout results mean nothing.
 
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Originally posted by Murkine
Actually, he's right. Results don't tell the whole story. Not saying you are (mostly because I don't have time to research your team) but if you are getting these results in blowout games then the results don't mean anything.

A true testament of results not lying would be those results gathered in close games or losses. Blowout results mean nothing.


That is very true. 5 blowout games where a QB goes 19/21 passing, 500 yards and 5 TD makes his season stats look good!
 
megaman1337
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Originally posted by monsterkill
your team is second in the conference for YAC. just curious, what is your definition of a low quality receiver?


This season the team's receivers overall are much better than last season or seasons prior. Even more of the run based offensive elements are gone. The owner has made it a point to put a good supporting cast around Rodgers this season. This season the recievers are about average.

A bad receiver is a HB that has 15 catching. A bad receiver is also a TE that goes out for passes, but can't catch them. A bad receiver is a wide receiver that can't break free from coverage or can't catch; especially in pressure situations. At the moment the team is composed of speed WRs which get thrown at 90+% of the time; who have low catching which is among the reasons why the YAC rate is 2nd, but completion % is low.
 
megaman1337
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Originally posted by Murkine
Actually, he's right. Results don't tell the whole story. Not saying you are (mostly because I don't have time to research your team) but if you are getting these results in blowout games then the results don't mean anything.

A true testament of results not lying would be those results gathered in close games or losses. Blowout results mean nothing.


1) Actually he's wrong; not in the sense that results don't tell the whole story, but that he mistakenly thought I didn't know the whole story before he started typing. Someone wholly ignorant of the teams I have been with for the past several seasons comes along and knows nothing about what lead to those results. I already informed him what happened, yet even in his ignorance he still doubted the facts.

It would be like me telling you how all of your players got their results for the past several seasons while knowing nothing about the builds and tactics of the team that surround him. It is ignorant.

2) The QB and #2 WR were not boosted until week 8; therefore all results prior to that are results of being 3 levels lower than the level cap and as a build.

3) Blowout games make any build's performances better or worse depending which side the team was on. Regardless, this build performs.

4) This same build tore up the world league as well.

5) Strength remains terribly overrated.
 
Ditka
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I run with 117throwing 97 vision on my QB.

Done very well
 
monsterkill
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Originally posted by Ditka
I run with a SSB team

Done very well


 
tautology
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I am currently rolling with 134 throwing and 93 vision and sucking teh big suck

I blame my WRs and O-line.

 
Justiciable
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Originally posted by megaman1337
1) Actually he's wrong; not in the sense that results don't tell the whole story, but that he mistakenly thought I didn't know the whole story before he started typing. Someone wholly ignorant of the teams I have been with for the past several seasons comes along and knows nothing about what lead to those results. I already informed him what happened, yet even in his ignorance he still doubted the facts.

It would be like me telling you how all of your players got their results for the past several seasons while knowing nothing about the builds and tactics of the team that surround him. It is ignorant.

2) The QB and #2 WR were not boosted until week 8; therefore all results prior to that are results of being 3 levels lower than the level cap and as a build.

3) Blowout games make any build's performances better or worse depending which side the team was on. Regardless, this build performs.

4) This same build tore up the world league as well.


5) Strength remains terribly overrated.


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Originally posted by FYNBYAC
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OVERKILL
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Originally posted by megaman1337
1) Actually he's wrong; not in the sense that results don't tell the whole story, but that he mistakenly thought I didn't know the whole story before he started typing. Someone wholly ignorant of the teams I have been with for the past several seasons comes along and knows nothing about what lead to those results. I already informed him what happened, yet even in his ignorance he still doubted the facts.

It would be like me telling you how all of your players got their results for the past several seasons while knowing nothing about the builds and tactics of the team that surround him. It is ignorant.

2) The QB and #2 WR were not boosted until week 8; therefore all results prior to that are results of being 3 levels lower than the level cap and as a build.

3) Blowout games make any build's performances better or worse depending which side the team was on. Regardless, this build performs.

4) This same build tore up the world league as well.

5) Strength remains terribly overrated.


Actually, I based my comment on the info gleaned from browsing (briefly) the very info you linked. So tell us all again how i'm making assumptions based on nothing?

Ultimately, it seems to me that you were just bragging (about a 20's casual league player's stats no less), and when challenged you got all butt-hurt & started throwing out insults. However, no matter how much chest -puffing you do nothing you can can dispute the fact that your team threw way more than any other team, so of course you are going to lead the league in throwing stats. Unless you level the playing field your basis is skewed, period. Any moron can figure that out.

My only point was that the results are skewed because the results don't tell the whole story, a point which you REITERATED in your first sentence thank you very much. All these other points you threw out there are just babble that makes no real impact on the situation, and is a weak attempt at justification for your bad argument.
Edited by OVERKILL on Jun 27, 2010 12:55:45
Edited by OVERKILL on Jun 27, 2010 12:54:56
 
DaMayan
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Originally posted by tautology

I am currently rolling with 134 throwing and 93 vision and sucking teh big suck

I blame my WRs and O-line.


So he has enough confidence then.
 
tautology
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Originally posted by DaMayan
Originally posted by tautology


I am currently rolling with 134 throwing and 93 vision and sucking teh big suck

I blame my WRs and O-line.


So he has enough confidence then.


He has +21% Deflect Blame and 9 points in I'm The Greatest.



 
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Originally posted by tautology
He has +21% Deflect Blame and 9 points in I'm The Greatest.





That's really an essential for any QB.
 
NilanJ92
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Yeah, I'm making vision my number 1 stat.
 
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