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Originally posted by chronoaug
I don't know why pro teams are complaining. A lot of those guys in AA and AAA who were forever stuck and could never get to Pro would complain "blah blah blah Pro is only season 1 teams blah blah blah not fair". If there was no WL there would be 32 teams back in Pro leagues not to mention probably another 10 that wouldn't have gutted/merged. So that's 42 current Pro spots that would still be in AAA and all those teams would still be complaining.

The whole WL situation isn't perfect but i don't know what i'd do to improve it and it's good enough i guess. The main thing i don't like is how it encourages so many teams to gut/merge but i guess that's inevitable and may just have been because so many season 1 and 2 guys just retired

well...it just brought that problem from AA and AAA up to Pro really...so now those guys will just continue to complain in Pro...rather than AAA...

certainly isnt a perfect situation as a whole...but at least the competition is good.and the playoffs are at least interesting. I just think some new ideas need to come in place to liven up this game a little...make this game more enjoyable beyond just watching the game itself...

It's a'ight.

Originally posted by bhall43
well...it just brought that problem from AA and AAA up to Pro really...so now those guys will just continue to complain in Pro...rather than AAA...

certainly isnt a perfect situation as a whole...but at least the competition is good.and the playoffs are at least interesting. I just think some new ideas need to come in place to liven up this game a little...make this game more enjoyable beyond just watching the game itself...

needs more coaches am i rite?

Originally posted by chronoaug
needs more coaches am i rite?

If coaches were:

a) cheap
b) not very powerful
c) limited to just a couple per team (3-5 imo)

i think they'd be great for the game.

Originally posted by Gart888
If coaches were:

a) cheap
b) not very powerful
c) limited to just a couple per team (3-5 imo)

i think they'd be great for the game.

coaches should do things like unlock gear, and plays

Originally posted by crazy454
Originally posted by Gart888

If coaches were:

a) cheap
b) not very powerful
c) limited to just a couple per team (3-5 imo)

i think they'd be great for the game.

coaches should do things like unlock gear, and plays

Nah permanent items and plays others don't have are both fail imo. Give em a small bonus to base stats for people on that team. Won't be extremely overpowered, won't travel from team to team, etc.

i don't know if i like the idea of unlocking plays. if the plays they unlock are great, then that fucking sucks for the rest of the teams that don't unlock them (which means everyone will, and we'll be back where we are), and if they suck, then it's a waste.

the idea of unlocking gear is pretty interesting, as long as the gear they unlock isn't necessarily better than the normal gear. maybe something like a piece of +4 SA gear instead of +8 attribute gear? (or something along those lines, but better balanced).

ideally there would be about 20 equally powerful, and not tooooo good, coaching perks, and teams would have to choose 5 or so of them.

another idea off the top of my head is a coach who would allow the conversion of 1 pieces of AEQ to a different slot for each player each season for free.

Originally posted by blln4lyf
won't travel from team to team, etc.

good point.


but... if its just a small % to base stats, then every single team is going to take the speed, agility and strength ones. the game hasn't become any more interesting, it's just every team has become a little faster/more agile/stronger.

not sure that's really a step forward (or fun).

who the fuck would have thought ahrens would start a decent thread?

A lot of on point comments in here. I personally like the competition of the WL, but the loss of regional identity has really crushed the game in a lot of ways. You don't see those Pro league challenges and many of the Pro forums really suck. Teams like Dakar have already been in the WL longer than they were in APL, so how good can our regional pride be?

The WL forums should be better, but you have so many people trolling each other that it keeps a lot of the good posters away. Would be interesting if the game could just give out forum specific bans to keep the complete nonsense out (but strange enough we probably wouldn't have this thread).

If the WL went away and we went back to the old system, I wouldn't mind. The PWT/rankings committee are clearly things that were put together essential to usher in the WL system, but now that it's here, it's not exactly what we expected. Tournaments are all but obsolete. Could we return to the old system and it be the same as it was then? Of course not. These uberteams would be bored out of their minds. Hell, some of them still are. What is really needed is more parity in the game itself. We have 6 undefeated teams at the mid-point in the season. That's more than the first two seasons of WL combined. Lower leagues are even worse when it comes to lack of parity. 100 point game differentials are the rule, not the exception. So, a lot of the problems with the WL are just general game problems more than anything. Bottom line is that this is the pinnacle of the game, but once you get here, the view is just blah.

Originally posted by GMathiasf
who the fuck would have thought ahrens would start a decent thread?


lol yeah, if i had greasemonkey turned on I wouldn't even know it existed. >_>
I also feel p safe to talk srs dot stuff in this thread, since most of the hali guys probably won't be able to see this thread, and won't be offended by my srsnss.

Originally posted by GMathiasf
Would be interesting if the game could just give out forum specific bans to keep the complete nonsense out (but strange enough we probably wouldn't have this thread).

can you imagine the shit that would get posted here if FFAers didn't have to worry about not being allowed to post in FFA if they trolled this forum? ew.

Originally posted by GMathiasf
100 point game differentials are the rule, not the exception. So, a lot of the problems with the WL are just general game problems more than anything. Bottom line is that this is the pinnacle of the game, but once you get here, the view is just blah.

agreed here for the most part. in fact, i think we should probably take what works about the world league, and expand it to the rest of the game. the more aggressive relegation system makes the end of the WL regular season much more interesting than most pro leagues. maybe relegating 16 per league is a bit much for most leagues, but it makes a hell of a lot more sense than 4, when more than 4 teams seem to gut each season in every league.

I've enjoyed playing in the WL for the last 2.5 seasons, it's fun playing against the best in the game, but it's also really time consuming and tiring after a while.

Personally I don't think WL has had as much impact on the game as mega-merges in the past few seasons. Every season there are some merges of top notch teams, which as the game getting more complex each season, more and more teams will merge.

Originally posted by chronoaug
needs more coaches am i rite?

thats not really fun fluff tho...thats just complicating the game more...

trying to make this game less like my second job man...

Originally posted by blln4lyf
Def. would a lot more than they do now.
The World League forums would be a lot "cleaner" if both CPL & USAPL posters went somewhere else, so let's not pretend that it's just a Canadian thing. But while some may find juvenile posts annoying, they're not a true "problem" if they're confined to their own threads and not infringing upon any "serious" posts like rankings and so forth. Unfortunately there are few people who even bother with "serious" posts in league forums anymore, not just at the World League level, but anywhere. Most of the league forums I've seen are just dead in general. GLB isn't new anymore, and a lot of the enthusiasm for the game has gone away.


And as for the World League format, I was vehemently against it, but it definitely has some good points. I like structured competition against other regions, as sporadic scrimmages don't really tell the whole story the way a balanced schedule does. My main concern is the continued trend towards mergers (Providence is one also), as that is accelerating the talent drain in lower levels. I'm not sure that the loss of regional identity really means much now that teams are coming up from the amorphous cloud rather than belonging to one region their entire existence.


Edit:
That said, I would like to see some kind of formal tournament system reinstated.

Originally posted by Gart888
good point.


but... if its just a small % to base stats, then every single team is going to take the speed, agility and strength ones. the game hasn't become any more interesting, it's just every team has become a little faster/more agile/stronger.

not sure that's really a step forward (or fun).

very true.

Originally posted by datongw
I've enjoyed playing in the WL for the last 2.5 seasons, it's fun playing against the best in the game, but it's also really time consuming and tiring after a while.

Personally I don't think WL has had as much impact on the game as mega-merges in the past few seasons. Every season there are some merges of top notch teams, which as the game getting more complex each season, more and more teams will merge.

both the addition of the WL and the decline brought on mega merges...but the WL certainly didn't help matters in that respect. im with you man...its been enjoyable playing up here and playing the best...but its highly time consuming...and with the forums becoming less enjoyable (not really due to trolls for me, but more so just that there really isnt a whole lot to talk about dotwise) a guy can get burnt out quite quickly.

pretty much everything somewhat fun in this game is dying...is there even a radio show anymore?