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The SSS
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Originally posted by jwilliamsii
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Monarchs experimented in that game against the Aggies, we had an OT playing TE and two TE's as the starting WR's.


... Just as many teams did in the scrimmages, so using those as "proof" of superiority is silly. The only real judge is that every Alpha had a shot at beating the 'Jacks (some had 2), but it took a Zeta team to knock them off. I think that, coupled with the fact of how much more competitive Zeta was is proof of OUR superiority.



I'm not so sure about that, granted scrimmages can't come into conversation as both Alpha and Zeta teams were experimenting around, throughout the season the Woo-Jacks could have quite easily been beaten (they won twice in OT if i remember correctly). Also when you mention that Zeta is more competitive, 8-8 would have finished 11th in Alpha yet 9th in Zeta, there is a greater distinction of superiority in Zeta compared to Alpha and I think that supports the view that Alpha is more competitive.

I'd be more inclined to say that teams from Alpha choke in the championship rather than Zeta is better than Alpha.

 
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In my honest opinion...

I would do my WEPL Post-season Power Rankings Top 10 like this (based on all my scouting from this season)

1. Rohrheim Stampede (obviously, right?)
2. Multiple Scorgasms (underrated. Seriously.)
3. Woodridge Lumberjacks
4. Valhalla Vikings
5. Houston Roughnecks
6. NFLUK London Monarchs
7. NFLUK Wembley Warriors
8. Reykjavik Aggies
9. Aggieland Wrecking Crew
10. Valencia Billy Goats (should be tied with Aggieland Wrecking Crew though)
 
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Originally posted by jwilliamsii
...and yet, Reykjavík and Houston both gave the Stampede a better game than the undefeated 'Jacks did (and 3 other teams from Zeta beat them). The only significant week 16 game was Reykjavik/Monarchs, and who won that again? ...so to say Alpha is better than Zeta based on scrimmage games? All I can say to that is, "Whatever blows your skirt up, big fella."

Are you referring to the game that Reykjavik lost to the Stampede 33-13 or 31-13 as the better game? I'm glad to hear that you are the final say on which games are significant though, I'll be sure to come to you in the future to find that out. Apparently the Monarchs were experimenting that game, just as many Zeta teams did in their games.

With regards to the Stampede losing 3 games to Zeta teams, that is really meaningless. Just because the Giants lost a bunch of NFC games, does that mean the NFC was better than the AFC? Hell no. Could the NFC still been better than the AFC? Absolutely, but one would have to further investigate the results, particular the head-to-head matchups.

The scrimmage games are a decent indicator as to which conference is better because they matched up teams of similar seedings against each other. That is, non-playoff teams played other non-playoff teams, and those who got knocked out in the first round also matched up. Obviously some teams took them more seriously than others, but I'm fairly certain every team had a certain degree of experimentation. However, when all was said and done, Alpha won 50 and Zeta won 16. There is no way around the fact that Alpha won essentially 3 out of 4 games in head-to-head battles.
 
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Originally posted by jprietman

Originally posted by The SSS

Originally posted by ArthurRiot


DiegoKokomo can cry a lot, can't he?

"We are A TON better than you in ways you can't prove!!!"

2 seasons, 2 championships, and our top 6 teams will be top 8 teams next season. If Bari gets back to where they were, we'll have 9 teams in this division who are competing for the top seed.

None of that matters though. What matters is the championship record. Our #4 seed beat your #1.

God bless America. Zeta did what no one in Alpha could; beat the WuJacks.


To be fair, the Woo-Jacks did something they didn't all season and that was abandon the running game, they only ran the ball 15 times and they had been so effective in running the ball. Credit to Rohrheim though, they did beat the Woo-Jacks when nobody in Alpha could, we would like to change that next season.

3rd time lucky?



I'm not so sure they did that on purpose. It's hard to understand why a team that has an all-star runningback would think about passing against a team that shut down Corey Smith.

I think we kinda forced them to pass on us.


whoa whoa whoa...shut down corey smith? he threw for 319 yards on you with 2 TDs and 64% comp. in the playoff game and in the season threw for 332 yards with 1 TD. So i think they saw that and thats why they went with the pass. Which back fired on them. GO STAMPEDE!
 
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Originally posted by jprietman
In my honest opinion...

I would do my WEPL Post-season Power Rankings Top 10 like this (based on all my scouting from this season)

1. Rohrheim Stampede (obviously, right?)
2. Multiple Scorgasms (underrated. Seriously.)
3. Woodridge Lumberjacks
4. Valhalla Vikings
5. Houston Roughnecks
6. NFLUK London Monarchs
7. NFLUK Wembley Warriors
8. Reykjavik Aggies
9. Aggieland Wrecking Crew
10. Valencia Billy Goats (should be tied with Aggieland Wrecking Crew though)


Aggieland Wrecking Crew is no where near the 9th best team as of now and I would put the Jacks #2.

 
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well yeah, technically you CANT shut down Corey Smith. its impossible. but when we force him to throw that many interceptions, that's a baaad day for corey smith.
 
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Originally posted by DiegoKokomo
Originally posted by jprietman

In my honest opinion...

I would do my WEPL Post-season Power Rankings Top 10 like this (based on all my scouting from this season)

1. Rohrheim Stampede (obviously, right?)
2. Multiple Scorgasms (underrated. Seriously.)
3. Woodridge Lumberjacks
4. Valhalla Vikings
5. Houston Roughnecks
6. NFLUK London Monarchs
7. NFLUK Wembley Warriors
8. Reykjavik Aggies
9. Aggieland Wrecking Crew
10. Valencia Billy Goats (should be tied with Aggieland Wrecking Crew though)


Aggieland Wrecking Crew is no where near the 9th best team as of now and I would put the Jacks #2.



I honestly think if we hadn't beaten the Multiple Scorgasms, they would have run the table.
 
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Originally posted by jprietman
I honestly think if we hadn't beaten the Multiple Scorgasms, they would have run the table.


Definitely possible. They were easily a top 5 team, and with the right breaks/turnovers they could have won it all. With that said, I think if you played the playoffs as seeded 10 times, you would see 4 or 5 different champions.
 
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Originally posted by The SSS

To be fair, the Woo-Jacks did something they didn't all season and that was abandon the running game, they only ran the ball 15 times and they had been so effective in running the ball. Credit to Rohrheim though, they did beat the Woo-Jacks when nobody in Alpha could, we would like to change that next season.

3rd time lucky?



We had settings at 38% rushing and 62% passing, so we were going for the switcharoo. We ended up with about 25% rushes though, but we we're shut down. We changed it up to 80% up the middle too, since we had been pitching to the outside for most of the season. It felt like every time we ran up the middle, they blitzed, and everytime we passed, they dropped back and just shut our receivers down. Hats off to the Stampede for coming out on top, they were just hands down the better team. They made no mistakes while we did plenty, and that's not how you win a championship.
 
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Originally posted by jprietman
well yeah, technically you CANT shut down Corey Smith. its impossible. but when we force him to throw that many interceptions, that's a baaad day for corey smith.


Yeah 3 int and 2 tds and 2ints with 1 td...
 
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Originally posted by coreyls18
Originally posted by jprietman




I'm not so sure they did that on purpose. It's hard to understand why a team that has an all-star runningback would think about passing against a team that shut down Corey Smith.

I think we kinda forced them to pass on us.


whoa whoa whoa...shut down corey smith? he threw for 319 yards on you with 2 TDs and 64% comp. in the playoff game and in the season threw for 332 yards with 1 TD. So i think they saw that and thats why they went with the pass. Which back fired on them. GO STAMPEDE!


Well, in relation to Corey Smith numbers(500-600 Yrds), thats shut down, and hey mention your INTs.

 
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Originally posted by morbo
Originally posted by The SSS


To be fair, the Woo-Jacks did something they didn't all season and that was abandon the running game, they only ran the ball 15 times and they had been so effective in running the ball. Credit to Rohrheim though, they did beat the Woo-Jacks when nobody in Alpha could, we would like to change that next season.

3rd time lucky?



We had settings at 38% rushing and 62% passing, so we were going for the switcharoo. We ended up with about 25% rushes though, but we we're shut down. We changed it up to 80% up the middle too, since we had been pitching to the outside for most of the season. It felt like every time we ran up the middle, they blitzed, and everytime we passed, they dropped back and just shut our receivers down. Hats off to the Stampede for coming out on top, they were just hands down the better team. They made no mistakes while we did plenty, and that's not how you win a championship.



well, I really would have liked to see, what happened, if you played your usual game, we didn't completly focus on Ngo, but wanted to make sure, we tackle him....hmm....wait a moment, why would i tell you...., thanks you tried passing.
 
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Originally posted by morbo
Originally posted by The SSS


To be fair, the Woo-Jacks did something they didn't all season and that was abandon the running game, they only ran the ball 15 times and they had been so effective in running the ball. Credit to Rohrheim though, they did beat the Woo-Jacks when nobody in Alpha could, we would like to change that next season.

3rd time lucky?



We had settings at 38% rushing and 62% passing, so we were going for the switcharoo. We ended up with about 25% rushes though, but we we're shut down. We changed it up to 80% up the middle too, since we had been pitching to the outside for most of the season. It felt like every time we ran up the middle, they blitzed, and everytime we passed, they dropped back and just shut our receivers down. Hats off to the Stampede for coming out on top, they were just hands down the better team. They made no mistakes while we did plenty, and that's not how you win a championship.


You guys having such success running inside to outside was one of your strengths as well. It puts the defense at a big disadvantage if you can run outside/inside at the same frequency with the same success. I wont go into it with more detail. That might have been one of your bigger mistakes... besides changing something that wasn't broken!!!!! shame on you!!! haha
 
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Originally posted by jwilliamsii

...and yet, Reykjavík and Houston both gave the Stampede a better game than the undefeated 'Jacks did (and 3 other teams from Zeta beat them). The only significant week 16 game was Reykjavik/Monarchs, and who won that again? ...so to say Alpha is better than Zeta based on scrimmage games? All I can say to that is, "Whatever blows your skirt up, big fella."



I think the game against the Woo Jacks was likely the closest, perhaps the Scorgasms gave us the same fight, but both teams were within a drive at the right time of beating us.

About those 3 losses, take a look, we were 4-3, think why we lost, and what we did, ... not only that, but a team has to grow, and I believe .... ah well, yeah we lost some...who cares now.
 
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Originally posted by morbo
Originally posted by The SSS


To be fair, the Woo-Jacks did something they didn't all season and that was abandon the running game, they only ran the ball 15 times and they had been so effective in running the ball. Credit to Rohrheim though, they did beat the Woo-Jacks when nobody in Alpha could, we would like to change that next season.

3rd time lucky?



We had settings at 38% rushing and 62% passing, so we were going for the switcharoo. We ended up with about 25% rushes though, but we we're shut down. We changed it up to 80% up the middle too, since we had been pitching to the outside for most of the season. It felt like every time we ran up the middle, they blitzed, and everytime we passed, they dropped back and just shut our receivers down. Hats off to the Stampede for coming out on top, they were just hands down the better team. They made no mistakes while we did plenty, and that's not how you win a championship.



That's what you call out guessing yourselfs. Change up things when your losing, because I know.
 
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