Originally posted by Kayoh
Thumbs WAY FREAKING UP my ass
Thumbs WAY FREAKING UP my ass
Forum > Position Talk > D Line Club > Jump the Snap. What's the Verdict on it? Thumbs Up or Thumbs Down?
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Cool now do it from the second tick. Then while you're at it take into consideration, every good QB is maxing out hard count.
Post those results please.
Wait I can tell you. It results in your whole line jumping off sides 10+ times a game.
I actually started doing that and logged it for the first two games that I went through. Without JtS it was about what you'd expect, probably 40% 2nd tick, 40% 3rd tick, and 20% 4th+. With 15 JtS it was very rare to miss 3+, most of the misses were 2nd tick jumps.
Can you post some games from this season/preseason with 10+ encroachments due to JtS/Hard Count? Or even 6+?
Cool now do it from the second tick. Then while you're at it take into consideration, every good QB is maxing out hard count.
Post those results please.
Wait I can tell you. It results in your whole line jumping off sides 10+ times a game.
I actually started doing that and logged it for the first two games that I went through. Without JtS it was about what you'd expect, probably 40% 2nd tick, 40% 3rd tick, and 20% 4th+. With 15 JtS it was very rare to miss 3+, most of the misses were 2nd tick jumps.
Can you post some games from this season/preseason with 10+ encroachments due to JtS/Hard Count? Or even 6+?
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I'm not sure I've ever had a game with multiple encroachment calls on me while using 15 JTS.
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A more realistic amount is that, assuming 1 offsides per 40 plays, you should get 2-3 more a season. Not a big deal on one player, but times 4 or 5...could be troubling.
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Originally posted by OMGWTF
I actually started doing that and logged it for the first two games that I went through. Without JtS it was about what you'd expect, probably 40% 2nd tick, 40% 3rd tick, and 20% 4th+. With 15 JtS it was very rare to miss 3+, most of the misses were 2nd tick jumps.
Can you post some games from this season/preseason with 10+ encroachments due to JtS/Hard Count? Or even 6+?
OH Hai!
I actually started doing that and logged it for the first two games that I went through. Without JtS it was about what you'd expect, probably 40% 2nd tick, 40% 3rd tick, and 20% 4th+. With 15 JtS it was very rare to miss 3+, most of the misses were 2nd tick jumps.
Can you post some games from this season/preseason with 10+ encroachments due to JtS/Hard Count? Or even 6+?
OH Hai!
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Originally posted by aggieRN
JJ has 15 in JTS....just look at his numbers.
JTSlol.
Worthless VA IMO
which does he use
JJ has 15 in JTS....just look at his numbers.
JTSlol.
Worthless VA IMO
which does he use
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15 in X-factor
X-factor
Become the dominant player know you are! Land multiple big plays a game against higher level opponents, while splitting time with other players. Includes becoming a GLB legend and league leader in defensive categories. Bonus includes mutiple sacks per games, increased number of forced fumbles, and the elusive multiple forced fumbles in a single play. Each level increases the number PM's recieved about your greatness.
JJ
X-factor
Become the dominant player know you are! Land multiple big plays a game against higher level opponents, while splitting time with other players. Includes becoming a GLB legend and league leader in defensive categories. Bonus includes mutiple sacks per games, increased number of forced fumbles, and the elusive multiple forced fumbles in a single play. Each level increases the number PM's recieved about your greatness.
JJ
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Originally posted by aggieRN
15 in X-factor
X-factor
Become the dominant player know you are! Land multiple big plays a game against higher level opponents, while splitting time with other players. Includes becoming a GLB legend and league leader in defensive categories. Bonus includes mutiple sacks per games, increased number of forced fumbles, and the elusive multiple forced fumbles in a single play. Each level increases the number PM's recieved about your greatness.
JJ
nice
15 in X-factor
X-factor
Become the dominant player know you are! Land multiple big plays a game against higher level opponents, while splitting time with other players. Includes becoming a GLB legend and league leader in defensive categories. Bonus includes mutiple sacks per games, increased number of forced fumbles, and the elusive multiple forced fumbles in a single play. Each level increases the number PM's recieved about your greatness.
JJ
nice
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by aggieRN
JJ has 15 in JTS....just look at his numbers.
JTSlol.
Worthless VA IMO
Ya that explains a lot. There are no other D.E's in the game as good or better with 0 JTS. JJ is all about JTS, and all his success comes form it. You fuckin pwnt us there.
JJ has 15 in JTS....just look at his numbers.
JTSlol.
Worthless VA IMO
Ya that explains a lot. There are no other D.E's in the game as good or better with 0 JTS. JJ is all about JTS, and all his success comes form it. You fuckin pwnt us there.
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Originally posted by aggieRN
JJ doesn't use JTS fwiw.....didn't see any real benefit
That's the answer I am looking for.
People swear its good. WTF MAKES IT GOOD. I have seen nothing that would suggest it's even remotely worth a SHIT.
JJ doesn't use JTS fwiw.....didn't see any real benefit
That's the answer I am looking for.
People swear its good. WTF MAKES IT GOOD. I have seen nothing that would suggest it's even remotely worth a SHIT.
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 20, 2009 12:12:13
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by aggieRN
JJ doesn't use JTS fwiw.....didn't see any real benefit
That's the answer I am looking for.
People swear its good. WTF MAKES IT GOOD. I have seen nothing that would suggest it's even remotely worth a SHIT.
i believe that very early in your career when youre still building the big three(str/spd/agil) and before you have even touched vision, having a few(5) points does make a difference. that being said i know that once you do start on vision, it is better to reasign these VA points into something much more useful.
Originally posted by aggieRN
JJ doesn't use JTS fwiw.....didn't see any real benefit
That's the answer I am looking for.
People swear its good. WTF MAKES IT GOOD. I have seen nothing that would suggest it's even remotely worth a SHIT.
i believe that very early in your career when youre still building the big three(str/spd/agil) and before you have even touched vision, having a few(5) points does make a difference. that being said i know that once you do start on vision, it is better to reasign these VA points into something much more useful.
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