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Originally posted by kadafitcd
You sir, are a bastard! lol I want to go watch that trailer SOOOO bad! But I'm at work and I can't! Arrgghh! It's almost as bad as having to wait to spend my SP's!

BTW I agree that FF movie was dog doo doo. I wish they could have made a good movie. I too thought the story line of the game would make for a great movie. I am a sci-fi tool I have to admit. I miss new Stargate episodes. I can't wait for Stargate Universe in October. But I am afraid it will be garbage as well.

Yeah Stargate Universe looks interesting. SG1 had some really great episodes and interesting ideas for the sci-fi realm. I couldn't get too into Stargate Atlantis, thought that was pretty weak and the characters didn't really appeal to me that well, still had some decent moments, but overall pretty blah.

For the Zelda trailer, there was one other one on Youtube I found before that was exceptionally good, but I can't find it right now. So if you want to find it you might have to dig a while, but there is definitely a fan-made one that was really well done in addition to this other one.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Well how I explained it in words is far different than how I visually conceptualize it. But in my mind it would be freaking awesome, you could have a scene or two that involve some cool summon scenes, and just a slew of ideas you could come up with that the characters could go through during their quest that have FF tie-ins.

For example, say you wanted to have a character die in the movie. Well rather than die just any way, I would create something that would be identifiable with the nature of how you would die in a FF world, so maybe there's a battle and your mage out of desperation has to cast a sacrifice spell to save the party, so the character would go out but in a FF-style fashion, not some other way that could happen in any other movie.

Or take weapons shops for example. Well in the video game it doesn't really make sense why a guy is sitting behind a desk 24/7 waiting to sell expensive weapons, and then in the game if you are desperate why can't you just kill the guy and take his stuff? The game doesn't allow you to do that. So I would adapt the concept of a weapons shop in such a way where it is explained why you couldn't just kill the merchant, there's some kind of merchant code that has a layer of story to it, and that would actually satisfy FF gamers retroactively in a way when it is all tied together on why these merchants exist and why you have to play by their rules or what not. If you use your imagination you can take all kinds of FF-specific elements and build a really neat story around them in a live action fantasy world.

And ideas like that for different parts of the movie you could come up with all kinds of stuff. It's just my way of saying that the movie should have some freaking FF elements, whereas if you didn't know the title of that crappy FF movie you would never have had any reason to guess it was associated with FF in any way. It was just such an abortion.


Ok that makes more sense. About the guy sitting behind the desk 24/7...time doesn't exist in the FF games!

There's always some threat of ending the world as we know it, but yet you seemingly have time to go around battling for hours to level up, do trivial sidequests like racing Chocobos, and playing around in an arcade lol.

Originally posted by Sik Wit It
Ok that makes more sense. About the guy sitting behind the desk 24/7...time doesn't exist in the FF games!

There's always some threat of ending the world as we know it, but yet you seemingly have time to go around battling for hours to level up, do trivial sidequests like racing Chocobos, and playing around in an arcade lol.

For the guy behind the desk, time would have to exist in the movie in some way because we would be experiencing it in real time. But you would have to craft a story still of why these merchants are there, who are they, how did they get this job, where do they get their inventory from, and why can't you just rob them with your powerful weapons and magic? You could write some interesting back story to explain all of that stuff and end up with a unique story topic that has never been seen in a movie before while at the same time bringing closure to things in the game that inherently seemed illogical in the past by rationalizing why things are really the way they are.

Yeah well you could adapt that stuff for a big screen. If it was a 2 hour movie, you wouldn't be sitting in a movie theater watching these guys level up for 2 hours, it would have to be designed correctly. But you could have a couple of battles shown and then a montage in the movie to suggest the characters are leveling up in a way or what not. Really it would be about the story line creation that would make the movie so appealing and then the tie-ins with every scene in the movie having some kind of FF game element tying into the solutions....

For example maybe there's a battle in the movie where the characters can't figure out how to beat a certain foe or boss, and they keep coming up with ideas that you might have tried when you played the game, and say the solution to this scene is one character has to cast reflect on another, and then the mage has to cast a deadly fire spell on that person. You could make a cool live action scene around that, because it could be exciting and dramatic, and original. How many movies have you scene where a protagonist defeats the enemy by way of using a reflect spell compounded with a direct fire spell on top of them? Maybe the characters are just learning their way though the process like you were when you played the game, so the Reflect spell might be new and maybe the mage that learns that isn't really sure exactly how it works, so the other character is like uhhh that's your plan!?!? You want to TRY this Reflect thingy and bombard me with a deadly spell, yeah that sounds a great idea. I don't know, I mean you could devise a pretty good scene just along that one element of the game.

And then there are COUNTLESS things or elements from the FF realm that you could transform to an interesting movie scene. Then you string them all together, plug in a good story, and it would be a video game movie experience like nobody has ever made before. For people out there that have never played FF, they might still have RPG or video game knowledge and be able to follow the logic and concepts of leveling up and buying weapons and casting spells, but for others that are oblivious to the video game world it would just be like a Lord of the Rings type movie for them and they could still enjoy it even if they don't understand the FF idiosyncrasies.

Originally posted by kadafitcd
Speaking of Dragonball Did you guys see Evolution? It was totally off base from the storyline. Ridiculous! If I had never seen the Dragonball/Z/GT series or been a fan of it I might have thought the movie was ok but I haven't. I wish they would just make 1 movie that goes with the exact storyline in the anime scene by scene and it would be great. I would love to see the entire Namek series collapsed into one live action movie that would be awesome! 3 hour movie but it would be great!

I am a huge DBZ fan and seen every episode ever made. Although I haven't gone to see the movie just because early looks made me feel like they weren't hitting the high bar that i would have set for a DBZ movie. It just looked like it only came halfway, and I couldn't stand the thought of Chow Yun Fat as Master Roshi. WTF is that? Master Roshi is a weird perverted scraggly old man, they completely re-invented the character, and I understand this is early in the story line but it just seemed cheesy and weakly adapted in general so I have refused to go see it because I'm totally expecting to be let down thus I downplayed the importance of seeing it.

Although when the movie was first announced I was sooo excited for it, I said to myself that it's about damn time they made a live action movie, but when I saw the trailer I just thought it was a weak attempt. Just not how I visualized that it would be, but coinciding with my imagination and expectation levels is no easy task, you'd really have to care a lot to make a good movie like that, which people that make the decisions to go with those movies and the people they hire just do it for a job, not because they are passionate about the subject matter, which is the whole problem with all of these movies lately, there's just no logical planning or thoughtfulness going on in this crap they keep making. Like Transformers 2 for example, that's funny, I don't remember as a kid seeing a couple of imbecile hip-hop robots and a lunatic mom saying all kinds of random gibberish. What episode was that from? Oh and I certainly don't find it amusing that a miniature alien robot finds Megan Fox to be sexually appealing. I went and saw this movie in the theater and there was a bit of laughter in the theater during that scene, and all that scene did was make me want to cry and take a baseball bat to the heads of the people that were responsible for that scene, and then afterwards ask them if they still think it was funny?

Definitely not along the storyline with the Transformers movies but I do like both of them. I wasn't big into transformers when I grew up. I don't know if it was just before my time or what..

Originally posted by kadafitcd
Definitely not along the storyline with the Transformers movies but I do like both of them. I wasn't big into transformers when I grew up. I don't know if it was just before my time or what..

Well how old are you, I'm 30.

I guess you would have to watch all the Transformers cartoons first, then watch the movies. That's how I did it, and I wasn't happy with the movies at all. The first one was ok, because there was a lot of good that they did with it, but still way too many stupid things going on. Like the scene with the giant robots acting like rambunktious hooligans in the backyard yet not one neighbor notices or his parents hear anything.

Overall it just was not like the experience of the animated series. Watch some episodes of that and get a feel for the characters visually and then look back at the movies, they just didn't interface the characters well and they were all just oversized and clunky metal and didn't have character uniqueness like the cartoons did. They just made a weak attempt at adapting and integrating the identities of the characters to those sloppy robots. And there's just soo many robot wrestling scenes where you can't make heads or tails of who's winning or what's what, it's just a flash of crappy effects over and over again.

Heck just look at this comparison, here's the Megatron that I know....
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/259/440818-standup_megatron_aug054055i_super.jpg

And here's the movie Megatron....
http://news.restoringthepride.com/image/2007/05-31-07/Megatronmovie.jpg
WTF am I even looking at? That's Megatron?

Yeah definitely remorphed the characters and effed them up. I just liked the movie as a non Transformers aficionado. I am 26 going on 27. I remember watching them here and there but I wasn't really into it other than playing with the toys. I think my parents screwed me up. Instead of watching cartoons in the mornings I would play video games.. hmmm who knows!

Yeah I was pretty much into anything from video games to cartoons, TV shows, so any of that stuff I was pretty heavy into, especially anything that was sci-fi or action oriented.

Megatron was famous for the big black cannon he carried. They didn't integrate that into the movie at all. I even know what the damn sound effect sounds like when he fires it. I never heard that sound in the movie nor did I expect to. I never anticipated that the movie makers would have figured anything out that I would have liked to see. I'm willing to bet those people behind the making of those movies never watched all the cartoons as a kid like i did and played with the toys. Otherwise the movies would not have looked like that at all.

There's also a possibility of a Castlevania movie coming up in the future. Can't wait to see how they approach adapting that one. It has a really good shot of being a major fuckup, definitely a tricky thing to adapt to the big screen correctly. Doable absolutely, but I am not giving my hopes up on account of these Hollywood morons whom fail me 90% of the time.

holy crap.

Here's the kicker...Megatron was a gun. A gun...that's what the cannon was...it was a gun scope.

I was disappointed with Transformers also and I remember going to see the original movie way back in the day. When it was the cartoon movie and Optimus Prime died!!!! So sad...especially for a kid. Anyway, I was happy to see some of the characters make it into the new movies. Even though the robots were poorly done. I was waiting on Devastator

Yeah even the voices didn't do it for me. All of these cartoons whether Transformers or GI Joe, they always had really unique and interesting voices with unusual tones/dialects. They didn't do a good job on that either. I will hold out some hope for Transformers 3, maybe they will have some Dinobots in there, they look a little different, so perhaps they could use that as an area to reinvent the look of some of the characters and make them look cool at least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHIP9UtkQDQ

If you guys haven't seen the episodes of the Angry Video Game Nerd you should definitely check it out. I've seen every episode he's ever made, this link is for a gripe about the Zelda timelines. But most of his stuff is about annoying shit in video games and it's quite a riot. He's actually a filmmaker that has made countless movies in his youth as an amateur. There's a pretty good video bio of what he would have to go through to make movies including how he transformed his parent's garage into a lifelike cemetery which is quite impressive.

Someone get the nerd repellent. They're starting to swarm.

Originally posted by Primate
Someone get the nerd repellent. They're starting to swarm.

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Originally posted by Primate
Someone get the nerd repellent. They're starting to swarm.

just so long as they don't start breeding...