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Originally posted by ultrajer
Originally posted by Mabaa

Originally posted by ultrajer


No offense, but you got beat by the artic tigers, you probably didn't belong here anyway.

And the 4 teams projected to come up from AAA #1 Alpha would kick your team to the curb.

No offense to the team owner, as it seems your a great guy to work for, but really, I would think your players would welcome a season of winning after 2 seasons of winning 6 games total. Go down, try to beat the piss out of AAA (which I don't think will be easy for you) and then come back with higher fan support and a rejuvenated squad.

I am a player on the Vols. I've been with the team since the beginning. We will continue to build and make the changes necessary to be successful. Our goal is to win at the highest level, not to go back down and win in AAA. If we go back down that is fine. We will work our way back up again. If you haven't played in the WEPL then you have no idea what you're talking about and no basis upon which to make comparisons.

As far as underlined portion that is just a weak attempt at being inflammatory.

I wasn't being inflammatory, I was stating a fact. Jay and I are just having a conversation about this situation, and have remained acting like adults.

Fair enough. It seemed like you were just trying to get a rise with that comment, but it seems like Jay agrees that it was all part of the back and forth.

My bad.

No problem.

And now I am going to be following Jay's team next season, so add one point to your fan support. (unless of course you come to AAA #1 Alpha, lol)

Originally posted by Mabaa
Originally posted by ultrajer

Originally posted by Mabaa


Originally posted by ultrajer



No offense, but you got beat by the artic tigers, you probably didn't belong here anyway.

And the 4 teams projected to come up from AAA #1 Alpha would kick your team to the curb.

No offense to the team owner, as it seems your a great guy to work for, but really, I would think your players would welcome a season of winning after 2 seasons of winning 6 games total. Go down, try to beat the piss out of AAA (which I don't think will be easy for you) and then come back with higher fan support and a rejuvenated squad.

I am a player on the Vols. I've been with the team since the beginning. We will continue to build and make the changes necessary to be successful. Our goal is to win at the highest level, not to go back down and win in AAA. If we go back down that is fine. We will work our way back up again. If you haven't played in the WEPL then you have no idea what you're talking about and no basis upon which to make comparisons.

As far as underlined portion that is just a weak attempt at being inflammatory.

I wasn't being inflammatory, I was stating a fact. Jay and I are just having a conversation about this situation, and have remained acting like adults.

Fair enough. It seemed like you were just trying to get a rise with that comment, but it seems like Jay agrees that it was all part of the back and forth.

My bad.

I was a bit offended by it at first but he could be right. The thing is there is no way to prove that any of those teams can beat us. Can't really say it is a fact because it can't be proved. The Dublin Druids are a great team and also the team we beat to win the Alpha AAA title. They more than likely could beat us now but they can also easily finish 14th to last in WEPL next season. This league is that tough. Then again this league will look totally different come day 1 season 11. No Bonn, Rage, WWW, and so on. Turin before they gutted could have won AAA and they finished 14th. Belfast at 6-10 could have also won AAA. Of course this is just my opinion but I am positive that the jump from AAA to WEPL is a bigger jump than from any other league to another.

Here are how teams have faired the last 2 seasons off promotion to WEPL.

Vols: 4-12 season 9, 2-14 season 10.
Normandy Invasion: Won WEAAA2 in Season 8, 8-8 Season 9, 14-2 season 10 (Awesome)
Barcelona Crusaders 1st season in WEPL 1-15 only win was against a fellow promoted team
Roman Legion: 0-16
South Riding Stingrays 6-10. good for a first shot at WEPL
Paris Penguins- 6-10 Also good for a first try
Arctic Tigers- 4-12
Porto People Eaters- Owned AAA for a few seasons and finally moved up and finished 7-9
Manchester Devils: Won WEAAA1 and then went 7-9 here.
Sevilla Naranjas 6-10

So out of the 10 promoted teams the last 2 seasons only the Normandy Invasion have made the playoffs and that was in their second season. If that doesn't show you how tough this league is I don't know what will.

Originally posted by ultrajer
No problem.

And now I am going to be following Jay's team next season, so add one point to your fan support. (unless of course you come to AAA #1 Alpha, lol)

Would be funny if we stayed in WEPL and went 2-14 again. I think i would go bury my head in the sand somewhere.

Let me say this...WE AAA#1 was tough and look what teams came from there as Birmingham was able to keep competitive with them...

Bonn Dynamo
Paris Dream Bolts
Football Forum Fighting Danes
Greenwood Alley Cat
Turin Thunder
Paris Penguins
Portland Rage

Now I do know this last season (S9) everyone one of these teams with the exception of the Paris Penguins was in the playoffs.

I not saying that we could beat every one of these teams but I will say we can be competitive. With proper game planning as Birmingham upset Greenwood two seasons ago (S8) and almost made the playoffs. Sure we would struggle the first season or so in the Pros as most teams do. Your statement of the inactives is what hurt your team as any team that has a ton of inactives will be hard to operate.

I won't even include artic tigers because SI (disrespectful to even call him Tony Dungy) worked around the system and we all know how that ended up.

Originally posted by Jayadamo
Originally posted by ultrajer

No problem.

And now I am going to be following Jay's team next season, so add one point to your fan support. (unless of course you come to AAA #1 Alpha, lol)

Would be funny if we stayed in WEPL and went 2-14 again. I think i would go bury my head in the sand somewhere.

lol, I hope not

to go back to the OP:


signed

Originally posted by Drachir
Let me say this...WE AAA#1 was tough and look what teams came from there as Birmingham was able to keep competitive with them...

Bonn Dynamo
Paris Dream Bolts
Football Forum Fighting Danes
Greenwood Alley Cat
Turin Thunder
Paris Penguins
Portland Rage

Now I do know this last season (S9) everyone one of these teams with the exception of the Paris Penguins was in the playoffs.

I not saying that we could beat every one of these teams but I will say we can be competitive. With proper game planning as Birmingham upset Greenwood two seasons ago (S8) and almost made the playoffs. Sure we would struggle the first season or so in the Pros as most teams do. Your statement of the inactives is what hurt your team as any team that has a ton of inactives will be hard to operate.

I won't even include artic tigers because SI (disrespectful to even call him Tony Dungy) worked around the system and we all know how that ended up.

I have already replaced all of the inactives on my team. If I didn't think I was going to field a competitive team next season I wouldn't try to stick around. I am not saying that a AAA team can't come here and win right away but I am saying the past 2 seasons have shown it is extremely tough. We were competitive in season 9 but only won 4 games. being competitive doesn't keep you here. Winning games does Which we obviously didn't do). I know the relegation rules and will happily play in AAA next season but still feel that I have a valid arguement to stay here. If I was the only one that thought that I would keep my mouth shut.

Signed



Just in case it is important and it seems like the cool thing to do.

I don't know why everyone thinks Pro is so tough. We backed into WEPL in S8

S8: 13-3, lost in Alpha semis
S9: 13-3, lost in the WEPL final
S10: 16-0, won it all

Originally posted by Wrath Of Conor
I don't know why everyone thinks Pro is so tough. We backed into WEPL in S8

S8: 13-3, lost in Alpha semis
S9: 13-3, lost in the WEPL final
S10: 16-0, won it all



You are a special case.

pf, we won the Conference in our first pro season

WEPL title in our second season. However, your team has to be ready for the Pro league. When we were in AAA the year we got promoted we played some scrimmages against WEPL teams and brought home wins against Paris Musketeers and Dinas who were a bubble playoff team back then.
Next season will tell anyway, we also lost to a newly promoted team this season.

Originally posted by Disastermaster
pf, we won the Conference in our first pro season

Then you and Wrath need to share your recipes imo

Berlin Ballers won WEPL in their first season here if I'm not mistaken, thats why we don't like em, making the rest of us look bad j/k