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SO, lets take a look at Alex Black in action shall we?

Alex Black coming in for the QB sack=Easy TD - http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=634134&pbp_id=13278860
Black coming for the TFL= TD- http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=634134&pbp_id=13281490
Another Blitz = another easy pass - http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=634134&pbp_id=13282039
Another fast SS manhandled - http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=634134&pbp_id=13276561
Good thing you got all of that speed - http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=634134&pbp_id=13282696

Opposing teams love it when Black blitzes. lmfao

RapB, I know you aren't calling Interceptor a good player when he can't even tackle.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=590715&pbp_id=6094282

I think your speed doesn't give you shit when it comes to making a tackle. Thats why you come in to blitz and Jerhico Daily is used for coverage. Because you ain't worth a fuck. You are just like Black. You are useless for coverage.

Your cornerback saved a TD. The cornerback. Maybe they need to put that Cornerback at SS and kick you off of the team.

Daiy should be starting in your place, not you.

I guess you see how speed kills don't you?


I rest my case because you don't want me to get started on your punk asses.

ok, i knew you were ignorant to begin with, but i really didnt know you couldnt read.
did you not see my post in the other thread about my player being on a farm team? here is the team the players will replace in a couple seasons http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1690
the whole point of that team is to develop pro caliber players. winning games there would just be a bonus.
of course my player is out leveled, and i dont really care lol
stats arent as important as max playing time right now for my SS.

let me know when your player gets his first int this season, dont worry ill wait, maybe ill even give you next season.

Originally posted by AlexBlack6
ok, i knew you were ignorant to begin with, but i really didnt know you couldnt read.
did you not see my post in the other thread about my player being on a farm team? here is the team the players will replace in a couple seasons http://goallineblitz.com/game/team.pl?team_id=1690
the whole point of that team is to develop pro caliber players. winning games there would just be a bonus.
of course my player is out leveled, and i dont really care lol
stats arent as important as max playing time right now for my SS.

let me know when your player gets his first int this season, dont worry ill wait, maybe ill even give you next season.

Really?

Maybe it was me, but I'm pretty sure you made the word, ignorant, look like a compliment by he way you attempted to downgrade me. I can read just fine I think but I DON'T understand the farm team thing. I know you play for Athens. So are you saying you are waiting a season or two then you are gonna leave Athens and replace one of the players from Compton? Hmm, sounds funny

Let me know when you quit making your defense look like fools. You aren't a blitzer no matter how bad you want him to be. It makes you look stupid, seriously it does.

Too late on that I guess.

no, edventually they will replace the current players on the USA AA team i never specified "when"
i didnt make my SS a blitzer. you act like i told the DC "OMGZ BLITZ ME AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!!!"
plus, you dont even know my plans for my SS, you act like im going to get his natural speed to 90+ and leave strength at the mid 20's or some shit.

plus, i never brought up my safety to begin with, i never said he was the best ever, because i know he isnt, YET of course.
unlike you, who claims that your SS is basically the best SS in the entire universe, and how he is some monster playmaker, when in reality he isnt. just because your team is good doesnt mean your player is. so maybe YOU should apply for a job at the circus you fuckin "clown"

Originally posted by AlexBlack6
no, edventually they will replace the current players on the USA AA team i never specified "when"
i didnt make my SS a blitzer. you act like i told the DC "OMGZ BLITZ ME AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!!!"
plus, you dont even know my plans for my SS, you act like im going to get his natural speed to 90+ and leave strength at the mid 20's or some shit.

plus, i never brought up my safety to begin with, i never said he was the best ever, because i know he isnt, YET of course.
unlike you, who claims that your SS is basically the best SS in the entire universe, and how he is some monster playmaker, when in reality he isnt. just because your team is good doesnt mean your player is. so maybe YOU should apply for a job at the circus you fuckin "clown"

hahaha. I guess I'm doing something right since you resort to cursing. lol, now thats funny. Heres the deal. First, obviously, you wouldn't be stupid enough to tell your DC that. Thats his problem. Second, I never wanted to know your plans for your safety because if he was mine, I'd retire him. Third, I don't care about his build because he sucks on the field. Fourth, you DIDN'T bring up your safety to begin with. You brought mine which is resulting in total hell for you. Fifth, I NEVER claimed any of my players are the best or close to it, nor a monster playmaker. Sixth, yes my player is very good because he fits perfectly in the type of schemes we work in. Seventh, use your own words when you call me something, not what I call you. Thats dumb, really dumb.

What you need to realize is, a person doesn't build a player to the way he wants him personally. He build him for what he's gonna be needed for. Now, that I got all of my attributes, I now can work on more speed.

I posted about my SS. It was something like "This is what a SS suppose to look like", does that sound about right? For the weak-minded, let me explain. IT WAS MY OPINION DUMBASS. Do you think I wanted everyone to build a player just like mine? I don't care how you build him. All I wanted was a rating because its a "Rate My Safety" topic. This shit is common snese man. Theres no reason to be that stupid dude. Do I think my level 34 is better than ANY of the level 45's? No, he will not be better than none of them just like yours is not as good as mine. I have invested more money and time in mine. As long as I don't invest money or points in garbage that I don't need like kicking, throwing, carrying, etc. then the points are valid.

So... again. You are a full-blown idiot.

Look in the dictonary and read the definition for "common sense". Seriously, I want you to do it.

Originally posted by Packers27


Who cares?

Can you spell Clown? I'm sure you can write your own name.



lmao... Was that even supposed to be an insult? You are hilarious.

No, its not an insult. Its the truth

Dude listen to me for a sec. You know nothing about nothing alright? STFU, and run along because I'm working on an avatar right now. HOLD UP!!!! Since you are a PC NERD can you make a flashing avatar if I pay you in common sense? You sure in hell need some

you couldnt be more wrong
i didnt bring up your safety, you did by opening the topic.
right now he might "suck" in terms of individual stats, but not in the future
people build players they want and find systems where they would fit the best. for example, speed WR would look for a pass first team. but can also build players that fit system i.e. a run blocking WR for a run first team. its not a one way street.

good for you, now im stating my opinions, so deal with it.

i never said you wanted everyone to build a player like yours, but you seem to think the way your guy is built is the only way to go.
Originally posted by Packers27
Do you want to make this dude a good player or not? Then, stfu and listen. Your safety is only a level 8. While you are wasting your time by building more speed, you could be training for other stuff that you WILL have to have later. You need to use a little SP on speed not training.

Originally posted by Packers27
Just another SS with too much speed. You could've stopped at 80 and put some time in jumping, and more agility.
Originally posted by Packers27
Too much speed and stamina and not enough Vision, Agility, Jumping, and Confidence.

Retire him.
Originally posted by Packers27
No strength which is the second most important attribute for a SS. Just another speedy young SS that gets ran over.

BAD
Originally posted by Packers27
Not enough vision and jumping, which is vital to great safeties. Why does everyone go speed speed speed?

Speed should be 70% priority. It doesn't need to be up to the max at level 56.

Now, that guy has to suffer from missing alot of the intangibles.

Retire him now.

now i understand your reasoning about trying to be good NOW, but your player wont be good in a couple of seasons when slow builders start to round out. but you obviously dont understand the reasoning behind building a safety that starts with speed/agility/vision. when you're in the AA's AAA's and Pro's you NEED speed because everyone else has it. you stated in another thread saying a player with 120 speed is as fast as as one with 100. wrong, that depends on their agility. a 100/80 CB would be just as fast as a 110/70 WR. but a WR that has 120+ speed and 80+ agility [not natural, with EQ ofc] would roast a 100/80 or a 90/90 CB.
"oh sure, but thats corners not safeties" safeties do play man, but they also play zone as you also stated. which is where speed agility and vision are important when trying to make a play on the ball/carrier.[i do agree 110+ speed on a SS is overdoing it a bit which is why i think 3 capping it early would give a SS the perfect amount of speed throughout his career] and yes i agree you need strength, tackling, jumping etc to "make" the play rather than just be there. but by building those attibutes up before spd/agi/vis you dont get the maximum benefit from the "natural gains" your player gets when he levels up. it just so happens the biggest bonuses are speed and agility. by only 3 capping speed at 68 early, you can actually have great speed [70+ natural] without wasting SP's when they start costing 4:1 for an attribute. by 3 capping it early, you wont need to come back and spend more points in speed which you said yourself you would come back and add more to speed later on once your SS is rounded out and you need might need more speed. which is why i made the statement about wasting SPs.
and honestly, how many WR's actually have more than 8-10 strength at -40? not very many so 20-30 strength is more than enough, for the time being. and as you stated, and since you said your SS doesnt play around the LOS because your Dline is amazing speed isnt a PRIORITY in the early stages of a SS's career but eventually it will be. but im still confused as to why your player is built the way he is, since you said people build players to fit a system, but in your case, you team wins alot, and by a large margin, which causes the teams that are losing to pass more [WOAH i think i just used common sense there! well, look at that.] so why didnt you make him more of a coverage safety rather than a balanced one at this point in his career?

now im not saying that this route is the only way to go, but it makes more sense when it comes to giving your player an advantage in terms of his build and saving SP's

plus, you might seem more credible and some might look to you for advice on their build if you didnt contradict your self every time you post.

My safety doesn't play man because we aren't that style of team and if we did then I'd play man and give a cushion because I know I have the skills and hands to jump routes and get ints/Pds.

You just don't understand at all. All of those quotes of mine that you posted are again, OPINIONS.

You say my build is the only way to go. Do you have a quote for that?

Thats not the only way to go, obviously. This all goes back to having too much speed. When I see a build with too much speed and basically nothing else then I rate them low. If they are a lower level(like 8 or so) then I can understand a speedy secondary player because levels go by fast and allows you to get fast, easy speed, but don't keep going. Its a addiction.

I don't think I've seen your build yet so open your build and I will tell you what I think and would do, without any negativity. If you are SO comfortable with your player currently then you shouldn't have a problem with it. This will show what our differences are on builds besides the speed. Whatdya think?

Originally posted by AlexBlack6

"oh sure, but thats corners not safeties" safeties do play man, but they also play zone as you also stated. which is where speed agility and vision are important when trying to make a play on the ball/carrier.[i do agree 110+ speed on a SS is overdoing it a bit which is why i think 3 capping it early would give a SS the perfect amount of speed throughout his career]

i think you may have missed that part, covers a couple points you just brought up.
no, not "exact words" i but those quotes suggest your thinking, that it is the only way to go

i never said it was the only way to go either, but it is advised to go that route to "get the most" out of your build


Build Open
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1359456
Speed = done adding SP's for his career, EQ will bring it to 100-110 by the end of his career [i only put SPs into it up till 68, its already 70.9 from natural gains.]
Agility = may bring that up to 74 natural once everything else is done.
Vision = still in the process of 3 capping it, and may bring that to 74 natural as well once everything is done.
i plan on capping Tackling to 48, then strength to 60 then tackling to 60 as well.
then work on jumping catching and confidence while i train stamina.
my player was lvl 15 when i was pmed to be brought in for a reserve role, which is why he is outleveled. [stamina is why i also chose a ST/backup role]

Ok, this is what I really think about Black.

For a level 24, you are VERY fast. Your vision is very good too along with agility so you've got a good eye and you can move. We both know that strength, tackling, jumping, some stamina, and some confidence is also important. Mayybe more important to some people than others. I think for a level 24 SS thats a goos start of course I'd have less speed and less agility and have those other stats up a bit. I feel by doing this you can have a more solid build. I'm not saying that the guy has to be slow but 75-80 is really good for a lvl 24 SS. I don't necessarily like to build on SAs very early, even though I did but he was my first player. But what I am a BIG believer in is Superior Vision. I'd find a SA piece so you can upgrade it without having to put multiple points on it to raise it or having to invest in change direction when you don't want to. My SS has a 7 on SV I think and he runs to the location before the bll is thrown. On one play my safety was playing up for short passing coverage and run support and he broke on a HB flat route and got a pick6 last year.

I told you that I wouldn't give any negativity and I didn't. People like certain builds more than others. If yours is cool with you then its cool with me.

well the pro team i gm for, every WR has 110+ speed so i have an idea of how fast pro players are, and keep in mind those are 1st and 2nd season guys when people didnt have much of idea of what they wanted to do so WR's and TE's will be alot faster when my SS is in the pros [if he gets there ofc] which is why my speed is where its at, and i dont really need to add anymore to it since EQ will do that for me [108ish by 56]


Originally posted by Packers27
=I don't necessarily like to build on SAs very early, even though I did but he was my first player. But what I am a BIG believer in is Superior Vision. I'd find a SA piece so you can upgrade it without having to put multiple points on it to raise it or having to invest in change direction when you don't want to.


agreed, thats the plan. ive been normal training with the extra bonus up until i started training tackling and getting shopping tokens
my 56 WR had 11 First Step and 15 Quick Cut before i changed out the Quick Cut for a fully equiped peice of Spin AEQ so now hes 11FS 11QC 7Spin, so i know how benifical fully upped AEQ can be.
and i plan on maxing out SV on my SS as well once his attributes are complete.

Originally posted by Packers27
RapB, I know you aren't calling Interceptor a good player when he can't even tackle.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=590715&pbp_id=6094282

I think your speed doesn't give you shit when it comes to making a tackle. Thats why you come in to blitz and Jerhico Daily is used for coverage. Because you ain't worth a fuck. You are just like Black. You are useless for coverage.

Your cornerback saved a TD. The cornerback. Maybe they need to put that Cornerback at SS and kick you off of the team.

Daiy should be starting in your place, not you.

I guess you see how speed kills don't you?


I rest my case because you don't want me to get started on your punk asses.

So you found a missed tackle. BIG surprise: guess what - you'll find missed tackles all over every defender in serious leagues. That particular powerback (on a Top10 GLB team) broke 85 tackles this season so far. He just does his job. Your guy doesn't have any missed tackles, does he?

So no point again, but lots of insults. Grow up, kid!

#1
You got NO experience of what GLB looks like when played properly. Casual leagues are for players that don't want to invest time to set up AIs and gameplans. Because of that, casual leagues don't attract the best agents and players.
/Guess why your guy plays cover 2 so much - it's because basic AI has like 5 different defensive plays.)

#2
At lv. 34, any serious agent considers his player far from beeing balanced and ready to work. So your opinion is just as serious to me as a lv. 13 bragging about his stud QB would be to you. Think about that for once.

#3
You haven't boosted your player properly. He's far from the levels comparable players of his age should be. So let's talk about seriously trying to make the best player possible...

#4
I don't mind some kid bragging about a crappy build. But I do mind guys like you trying to confuse others. You post all over this subforum, giving shitty advice to others coming here to ask serious questions. If some agents will take your posts serious, they'll screw up their players and will need to retire later on and/or play on loosing teams.
For you it's just a little fun, but for them it might be the end of GLB because they get frustrated. Think about that one - just for a second.

Now go back and enjoy the capped casual league for as long as it lasts - but hold back your posts... unless someone particulary asks how to build for a lv. 31 capped casual.


P.S.: If you want to have a little fun, try to guess what build my SS has. You'd be surprised - for he's not just all speed...

Originally posted by AlexBlack6
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Build Open
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1359456
Speed = done adding SP's for his career, EQ will bring it to 100-110 by the end of his career [i only put SPs into it up till 68, its already 70.9 from natural gains.]
Agility = may bring that up to 74 natural once everything else is done.
Vision = still in the process of 3 capping it, and may bring that to 74 natural as well once everything is done.
i plan on capping Tackling to 48, then strength to 60 then tackling to 60 as well.
then work on jumping catching and confidence while i train stamina.
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You got the right idea, but what you're planning will make him mediocre at best. Go a bit more extreme (and be a lot more patient...):

speed and agility:
74 natural (spend 4 SPs on it - in speed early, in agility just in time before automatic level gains take it above the cap)

vision: cap before it goes above ??.06, then train up another point there by going intense vision+confidence while you take speed higher; I'd take vision to the 60/61 cap then before I'd head back to agility; 68-cap in vision isn't a must, but helpful for a coverage guy

stamina: train that along with confidence after you're done with vision (see above); but only train a bit before you change to...
(come back to stamina+confidence later on in your career)

strength+tackling: train that after you've trained up stamina some; train both all the way till you can softcap one (then instantly softcap), and do so for the other one too. Keep training, so you'll add 2 points in each after you've softcapped. For a coverage guy, I'd leave strength alone then and take tackling to 61. For a hard hitter, I'd take tackling and strength to 61, then one of these to 68.

I'd leave jumping and catching alone for a LONG while. Can't have all.

"Problem" about this strategy: you'll miss out on the SAs for a LONG while. But after it comes all together (in the mid 50s to 60s), your guy will dominate and be a serious weapon on the strong side.

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Bringing speed and agility to 74 natural early will give you the option to have one piece of gear "to try out"; so you don't have to allocate all gear into speed. So it's your choice to either have even more speed... or have some more agility... or have some more strength/tackling. It also doesn't make sense to bring agility to 74, but add gear to 70'ish speed.

I'd decide the coverage / hard-hitter thing accordingly to the advanced gear pieces you'll find. If you can grab a Monster Hit or FFum-chance piece, he can be a hard hitter. If he can get a Swat Ball piece, that'll be fine for a coverage guy. Watch out for a +First Step piece. It really gives a nice boost to acceleration.