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RIP Al Davis
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Jun 21, 2009 23:44:22

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Originally posted by DL24
Originally posted by DrunkenCowboy

Originally posted by PierreThomas

I can't decide my RBs never trained vision much less stuck points in it yet they do great playing against guys much higher level. I don't want to pump their vision up and then they start to suck because i know first hand how horrible vision was for RBs a few seasons ago.

This

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=104427

With a lot of vision or none?

the latter (although due to his high level, I'm sure he has some obviously)

RIP Al Davis
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Jun 21, 2009 23:46:20

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Edited by HALL OF FAMER Al Davis on Jun 21, 2009 23:46:25

DrunkenCowboy
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Jun 21, 2009 23:51:10

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Originally posted by HALL OF FAMER Al Davis
Originally posted by DL24

Originally posted by DrunkenCowboy

Originally posted by PierreThomas

I can't decide my RBs never trained vision much less stuck points in it yet they do great playing against guys much higher level. I don't want to pump their vision up and then they start to suck because i know first hand how horrible vision was for RBs a few seasons ago.

This

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=104427

With a lot of vision or none?

the latter (although due to his high level, I'm sure he has some obviously)

Low vision compared to what everyone suggests for his level

DarkRogue
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Jun 21, 2009 23:51:42

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Personally I think vision is pretty important for an elusiveback. That's the one thing my level 38 HB is missing at the moment and it doesn't seem as though he makes full use of his speed and agility.

phat_lyk_dat
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Jun 22, 2009 05:07:35

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Originally posted by Gart888
People will tell you you don't need much, and that its a hindrance. Unfortunately, people are idiots.

how much would you suggest for an elusive back 60? more?

PierreThomas
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Jun 22, 2009 08:08:37

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Originally posted by balony_pony16
Originally posted by PierreThomas

I can't decide my RBs never trained vision much less stuck points in it yet they do great playing against guys much higher level. I don't want to pump their vision up and then they start to suck because i know first hand how horrible vision was for RBs a few seasons ago.

Are you taking about Pierre Thomas? If it is, I can say based on experience playing against him that he does extremely well without high vision.

I have heard that vision works good if you want to use the super elusive setting

I have heard the same. I have several backs, Pierre is now playing with some elusive type stuff and is no longer a power back.

Hung is even faster and more agile and I'm thinking of using him on super elusive.

Breaking Shoulders is purely a power back and I'm not touching vision for him.

I've spent way too much time and money building the first two and I don't exactly want to experiment with two level 50 highly successful RBs. Too bad I don't have my own test server to find out. I guess I can build two equal backs, spend the entire day rolling them, build them the same for 5 months and drop a combined $100 on them and get the answer...nah, no advantage to the test server.

whatje
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Jun 22, 2009 11:25:08

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the mere fact that a ton of people have success with very little vision indicates pretty strongly in my mind that its unnecessary. people with high vision and success just confirm that its not a waste, not that it is an actual benefit. i would think you can be successful either way, although the risk of having no improvement to me outweighs the potential benefit.

Edited by whatje on Jun 22, 2009 11:26:37

Spielmannsfluch
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Jun 23, 2009 11:00:27

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Power Backs only need Vision to 40 so they can pick up the VA Short Yardage Monster. After that it is better to build up STR to 90+, Carry to 70+ and then SPD/AGI to 50 or 60+.

KCScott
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Jun 24, 2009 12:20:29

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I only own a powerback and he has very low vision and No vision type VA.

He averages 7.5 yds per carry and 9.7 receiving for his career -

bovineblitzkrieg
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Jun 24, 2009 12:55:59

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Overrated.

Piggskin
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Jun 25, 2009 09:08:45

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Originally posted by bovineblitzkrieg
Overrated.
+1

Meatdawg
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Jun 25, 2009 09:44:38

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Originally posted by PierreThomas
Originally posted by balony_pony16

Originally posted by PierreThomas

I can't decide my RBs never trained vision much less stuck points in it yet they do great playing against guys much higher level. I don't want to pump their vision up and then they start to suck because i know first hand how horrible vision was for RBs a few seasons ago.

Are you taking about Pierre Thomas? If it is, I can say based on experience playing against him that he does extremely well without high vision.

I have heard that vision works good if you want to use the super elusive setting

I have heard the same. I have several backs, Pierre is now playing with some elusive type stuff and is no longer a power back.

Hung is even faster and more agile and I'm thinking of using him on super elusive.

Breaking Shoulders is purely a power back and I'm not touching vision for him.

I've spent way too much time and money building the first two and I don't exactly want to experiment with two level 50 highly successful RBs. Too bad I don't have my own test server to find out. I guess I can build two equal backs, spend the entire day rolling them, build them the same for 5 months and drop a combined $100 on them and get the answer...nah, no advantage to the test server.

What's this magical "test server" you speak of?

Chetro
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Jun 26, 2009 18:10:17

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EDIT: Also on super elusive.

Edited by Chetro on Jun 26, 2009 18:15:28

rotharek
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Jun 26, 2009 20:47:55

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you prob need vision

and you should prob do a bit of testing to figure out how much you want

and you prob want to avoid most of the advice you receive on these forums because you generally just find a lot of bullshit

dviss1
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Jun 27, 2009 00:14:09

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Originally posted by Doc
Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23

Originally posted by Gart888

People will tell you you don't need much, and that its a hindrance. Unfortunately, people are idiots.
Originally posted by pottsman

You don't need much. And it's a hindrance.

Deciding factor IMO

It's a shame the guy with Pot in his name is using it correctly.

Pot makes you smarter.

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