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Originally posted by bruiser 1234
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Originally posted by mmuhr


why? My CB is fine with 60. Its not MANDATORY, like everyone says. Its good, but not necessary. You'll shut down fine without it. Im sure it helps with ints though.

If you're wanting to compete in the best pro leagues, it should be mandatory imo.


this. your in the minors. wait till you get to big leagues bud. vision below the 68 cap is bad


Hey how does playing in AAA sound? That is pretty damn close to the big leagues IMO and where I have played the past 3 seasons. My season 8 numbers were pretty decent IMO.
 
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Africa AAA is light years away from the best pro leagues.
 
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Originally posted by Asheme
Africa AAA is light years away from the best pro leagues.


hey thats funny, because some of the teams in Africa AAA got promoted to africa pro. Not like they count as pro teams or anything though right.

And the only point I was trying to make is that it isnt "in the minors" where I have played with 60vis. It was in a very respectable AAA league.

Its annoying when people say "In the Pros" when you have played in AAA against QBs and WRs that are pro level.
Edited by mmuhr on Jun 10, 2009 19:33:06
 
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Africa Pro is light years away from the best pro leagues.
 
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Originally posted by Asheme
Africa Pro is light years away from the best pro leagues.


Pretty much this.

Trying going into CPL or USAPL with 60 vision,and I guarantee you'll get your ass handed to you.

You'll need 68 vision to get by. 73 would be optimal if you could pull it off without sacrificing too much.
 
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Originally posted by higgenbottom
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Africa Pro is light years away from the best pro leagues.


Pretty much this.

Trying going into CPL or USAPL with 60 vision,and I guarantee you'll get your ass handed to you.

You'll need 68 vision to get by. 73 would be optimal if you could pull it off without sacrificing too much.


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I'm gonna chime and say. If your getting your speed/agility up with your CB where it really needs to be to hang with the 100 plys speed agile as hell WR's. Its hard for a CB to get vision to 70 and invest in Super Vision. So I would say 60 vision and no more until SV is at 7-10
 
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Originally posted by MustangLife
I'm gonna chime and say. If your getting your speed/agility up with your CB where it really needs to be to hang with the 100 plys speed agile as hell WR's. Its hard for a CB to get vision to 70 and invest in Super Vision. So I would say 60 vision and no more until SV is at 7-10


Nah not too hard at all really.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
If you don't know who I am, you don't know much about cbs. I'm one of the top cb builders in the game and run the most important cb forum in the game. And as for shitty builds, there is a reason Yes Man is on one of the best teams in the game: he is a really awesome build. As for my other two, they are the best cbs at their level. My level 44 had offers from Pro Championship winning teams, and my level 21 will be even better. You can talk trash all you want, but you have no way to back it up. I can back up everything I say.


Wow. Do you look in the mirror often and masturbate to pictures of your own cock much?

I'm still waiting for you to back yourself up. Open yes man.
Edited by UnderDogs on Jun 11, 2009 04:49:15
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024

If you don't know who I am, you don't know much about cbs. I'm one of the top cb builders in the game and run the most important cb forum in the game. And as for shitty builds, there is a reason Yes Man is on one of the best teams in the game: he is a really awesome build. As for my other two, they are the best cbs at their level. My level 44 had offers from Pro Championship winning teams, and my level 21 will be even better. You can talk trash all you want, but you have no way to back it up. I can back up everything I say.


Wow. Do you look in the mirror often and masturbate to pictures of your own cock much?

I'm still waiting for you to back yourself up. Open yes man.


Seriously? You really think I am going to open one of the best cbs in the game just to prove you wrong? I know you're just trying to bait me so that you can copy his build with your cbs. I don't even need to open him to back myself up. All I have to do is point to that he plays for MEM. You don't play for the best if you aren't the best. What can you do to prove that you have good cbs? Nothing. You're low leveled and play in the minors, and other than Sudan your teams aren't even any good. You open your builds to prove you know what you are doing.
 
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Originally posted by fakesanta
has anyone observed the difference between a CB with 60 vision and one with 70 vision?

my CB is breaking on the ball well with 52. i posit that using the dozens of skill points i'd use to bring it up to the "regular" 68 would be better spent ANYWHERE else.


I will say YES. It helps to get your CB into better position between the ball and the receiver.
I would suggest that if you can take it to 2nd cap, it will do you good.

I have a LV36 CB with the points on the major attributes below:

Speed: 95.08
Tackling: 33.6
Agility: 65.08
Jumping: 52.08
Catching: 29.08
Vision: 60.08

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=946356

He's improved a lot but he's just 4th on my CB depth charts so his stats aren't eye-popping.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024


If you don't know who I am, you don't know much about cbs. I'm one of the top cb builders in the game and run the most important cb forum in the game. And as for shitty builds, there is a reason Yes Man is on one of the best teams in the game: he is a really awesome build. As for my other two, they are the best cbs at their level. My level 44 had offers from Pro Championship winning teams, and my level 21 will be even better. You can talk trash all you want, but you have no way to back it up. I can back up everything I say.


Wow. Do you look in the mirror often and masturbate to pictures of your own cock much?

I'm still waiting for you to back yourself up. Open yes man.


Seriously? You really think I am going to open one of the best cbs in the game just to prove you wrong? I know you're just trying to bait me so that you can copy his build with your cbs. I don't even need to open him to back myself up. All I have to do is point to that he plays for MEM. You don't play for the best if you aren't the best. What can you do to prove that you have good cbs? Nothing. You're low leveled and play in the minors, and other than Sudan your teams aren't even any good. You open your builds to prove you know what you are doing.


My level 24 is never closed dork, and again, I don't need to copy builds. You're just scared. don't want to be embarrassed.
Edited by UnderDogs on Jun 11, 2009 07:11:13
Edited by UnderDogs on Jun 11, 2009 07:09:56
 
Longhornfan1024
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You aren't even responding to my arguments. Saying I'm scared when I have made strong arguments as to why I don't need to open Yes Man's build to prove his worth isn' t a valid counter-argument. And nice job trying to make your cb look better than it is by super-slowbuilding it for a season and a half. He may look good for his level (though not the best), but he will decline before he can ever play Pro because he'll never make up those levels you sacrificed to train him for a season and a half. Have fun dominating in AA. I'll be busy winning Pro league championships with my cbs.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
You aren't even responding to my arguments. Saying I'm scared when I have made strong arguments as to why I don't need to open Yes Man's build to prove his worth isn' t a valid counter-argument. And nice job trying to make your cb look better than it is by super-slowbuilding it for a season and a half. He may look good for his level (though not the best), but he will decline before he can ever play Pro because he'll never make up those levels you sacrificed to train him for a season and a half. Have fun dominating in AA. I'll be busy winning Pro league championships with my cbs.


I hope my CBs get to Pro.
Here's a LV32 CB of mine, you think he has a shot at getting to the Pro Leagues in a few seasons?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1067567
 
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Originally posted by jdpbernal
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024

You aren't even responding to my arguments. Saying I'm scared when I have made strong arguments as to why I don't need to open Yes Man's build to prove his worth isn' t a valid counter-argument. And nice job trying to make your cb look better than it is by super-slowbuilding it for a season and a half. He may look good for his level (though not the best), but he will decline before he can ever play Pro because he'll never make up those levels you sacrificed to train him for a season and a half. Have fun dominating in AA. I'll be busy winning Pro league championships with my cbs.


I hope my CBs get to Pro.
Here's a LV32 CB of mine, you think he has a shot at getting to the Pro Leagues in a few seasons?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1067567


First off, my previous post was directed at underdogs, not you. I hope you didn't think I was attacking you.

Second, whether you make Pros depends both on your build and the builds of other cbs out there. Right now, there are a lot of cbs in your level range who have better builds, but you still have a good build. You should really focus on getting agility and vision to the 68 cap. Both of those are absolutely necessary if you want to play on a good Pro team. The sooner you do that, the better, so that you can take advantage of the auto-level gains.
 
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