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The following post is intended for UFCKNIGHT and isn't intended to bash anyone specifically...

While majoring in Philosophy and Sociology I had the opportunity to take a couple Psycology courses, mostly generalized intermediate/beginners courses I believe, because as my professor would say "it could add a whole new perspective to your studies". I'd have to say I agree with him too, I have a theory that all three are closely connected as fields in that they attack many of the same issues but they do so in different ways. I like to say that for a given subject psychology takes on the WHY and BECAUSEs, philosophy the THEREFOREs and WHYs (there is an overlapping here with philosophy and psycology, but not really as philosophy's *why* has a bit of a what if attatchment with more emphasis on possibilities whereas psycology is clinical in nature and deals with more absolutes *well more absolute than not as well as philosophy having a looser bond than the other two to one another), while Sociology confronts the WHAT WHENS and WHEREs. It's a fairly simple way of looking at it, and all three overlap the other in instances so it really does help to have at least a general knowledge of all three. I admit as far as psychology is concerned i'm a total novice, but just understanding a little of the basic understandings and conditions really does open your eyes in other fields. Sociology is all about determining what has happened in order to predict what *could* happen, but without the understanding that psychology brings the study lacks alot of the human element (which some would say is dangerous, but I believe it to be imperative), having some understanding as to the why makes it alot easier to connect the dots to determine possible outcomes but I guess that's precisely the concern some have with it. The psychology of the human mind is a pretty chaotic thing to one who doesn't understand it, and jumping to conclusions based off of incomplete data is the recipe for disaster. Psycologists dedicate themselves to making sense and seeing the order within the chaos of the human mind, which still just baffles me. I don't even understand quite a bit inside my own head, anyone who's able to help people make sense of their own is doing something right. *On a side note, I did have the chance to take a brief course in sports psycology (really was more like an extended seminar), and that just blows my mind. The hidden potential of the human body and mind is astounding, if the great head DRs of the world ever find out how to unlock that potential... well the possibilities are endless.
Edited by fujicrow on Jun 2, 2009 12:55:05
 
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Sorry, I had work related stuffs to do for a bit....

Well that's all one huge digression, but your short post just brought that all up to the forefront for some reason, as a psychology major you could probably tell me why. But in seriousness, I did get that impression of dpride too but I didn't really trust how much of that came from the hostility in the argument and how much was valid. What I know from Sociology is that all of us need something from society as a whole, and from my limited understanding of psycology that those needs comes out in our actions in day to day life. The problem is that the human mind is chaotic, all of us typically have many motivations for every single action and there's always the people who compartmentalize their lives so that their personalities in different areas of their daily lives vary quite a bit so broad generalizations don't always fit. However, the larger the sample from which to consider the more likely it is to weed out the random occurances and see a pattern in personality develop. Take me for example, by my succeptability to being baited into argument you could piece together that I have somewhat of a confrontational personality, unable to dismiss affronts or unfinished arguments easilly. But you could also take my constant attempts at humor and the way I never seem to tell all accounts on first telling among other clues to determine that while I seek approval from others somewhat, i'm also a bit noncommital and have a hard time trusting others to see simple truths as plainly as I do or to give them fair consideration even if they do so tend to horde fact to myself to dole out as needed in order to prevent others from overlooking them for lesser points more easilly attacked. The reason I bring this up isn't to make myself look like a jerk, but show that no one is absent of faults, it's more of how you handle your life with them than the predetermined "instincts" one might have in a given situation. It was also meant to lessen the blow to someone reading the following by showing that hey, I am not without fault and not to take it the wrong way... Now, when I see someone who consistently seeks hostility from others while making no real genuine attempts at peacemaking or friendly banter it tells me that what they seek from society is hostility. That's the easy part, the hard part is determining why and this is where my fuzzy psycology may prove a hinderence. From my understanding, usually what we seek from society is somewhat a reflection of our own views of ourselves, society, or life in general. just a little bit of a reassurance that our view of things is in proper specturm. For me, I seek laughter because I fear i'm too serious and "booky" alot of the time and if people are laughing then I must not be a nerd right? But by hording knowledge as I do in order to skew arguments in my favor in a timely manner among other things indicates that I also have a rather high opinion of myself and seek to "win" arguments to affirm that. I use those as examples to also show that there are contradictions in everyone. While I want to be seen as light hearted and "funny", I also want it to be known that i'm a smart kid too. Now when someone seeks hostility from society, you have to determine whether they're seeking said hostility to validate their view of themselves meaning that they have major self-esteem issues or are they possibly anti-social and what they're seeking hostility not for the hostility's sake, but for the feelings and emotions behind the hostility, these people are more comfortable in a hostile evnironment because that is where they live all the time, for society around them to adapt to their hue of self loathing and hatred puts them more at ease as society is now imitating their view of the world rather than them feeling seperate from society.

Anyway, I went through all of this just to get your opinion of my thinking, how much of it is accurate and how much is jaded through a lack of understanding of complexities and the intrusion of phisisophical ideals and the invasion of Socialogical hinderences? All of this was pretty much one though process, but as is usual it's difficult to translate thought processes into language when they're basically hidden in mental shorthand in your head. You don't have to spell out theories and concepts when it's in your head because as it's coming from yourself, they're not really spelled out at all untill you start to explain the thought to others.
Edited by fujicrow on Jun 2, 2009 12:47:14
 
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Can't even summon up a response that has remotely anything to do with my post.

Truly Sad, that when proven wrong you back down and call several true statements with some insults, pure insults.i

Gotta manipulate what posts say in order not to look like an idiot i see!
 
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Here I'll even sugar coat what I was saying to you by removing the insults.

Yeah your right, obviously he doesn't understand AI very well after keeping the #2 and #4 teams scoreless in the playoffs. There couldn't be more evidence readily available on how all season dpride fucking owned EVERYONE with his AI. Look at the play by play against any team and you will see this.

What he was saying about switched back to basic you completely misunderstood. There are several inputs inside the AI, that during a certain score difference (ie: we winning by 34 or whatever he said, would have to check tactics) it changes from the specific plays we have layed out in situations to Random Passes/Runs (WHICH ARE BASED OFF OF THE BASIC SETTINGS/PLAYBOOK). So all that says is Bunghole was even worse prepared against some random plays we don't use than what we inserted for the Offense (which makes sense if you think about it).

What you say was "idiocy" is redundant. You cannot bait anyone into anything as there is only pre-gameplanning not in game changes. To bait you would have to lay down a shitty AI in the game before hand, and obviously that makes no sense in a playoff situation.

So continue to focus on a miswording by dpride, and avoid the matter at hand. Which is that you started swinging your dick around and shit talking with nothing to back it up.
 
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Originally posted by fujicrow
Sorry, I had work related stuffs to do for a bit....

Well that's all one huge digression, but your short post just brought that all up to the forefront for some reason, as a psychology major you could probably tell me why. But in seriousness, I did get that impression of dpride too but I didn't really trust how much of that came from the hostility in the argument and how much was valid. What I know from Sociology is that all of us need something from society as a whole, and from my limited understanding of psycology that those needs comes out in our actions in day to day life. The problem is that the human mind is chaotic, all of us typically have many motivations for every single action and there's always the people who compartmentalize their lives so that their personalities in different areas of their daily lives vary quite a bit so broad generalizations don't always fit. However, the larger the sample from which to consider the more likely it is to weed out the random occurances and see a pattern in personality develop. Take me for example, by my succeptability to being baited into argument you could piece together that I have somewhat of a confrontational personality, unable to dismiss affronts or unfinished arguments easilly. But you could also take my constant attempts at humor and the way I never seem to tell all accounts on first telling among other clues to determine that while I seek approval from others somewhat, i'm also a bit noncommital and have a hard time trusting others to see simple truths as plainly as I do or to give them fair consideration even if they do so tend to horde fact to myself to dole out as needed in order to prevent others from overlooking them for lesser points more easilly attacked. The reason I bring this up isn't to make myself look like a jerk, but show that no one is absent of faults, it's more of how you handle your life with them than the predetermined "instincts" one might have in a given situation. It was also meant to lessen the blow to someone reading the following by showing that hey, I am not without fault and not to take it the wrong way... Now, when I see someone who consistently seeks hostility from others while making no real genuine attempts at peacemaking or friendly banter it tells me that what they seek from society is hostility. That's the easy part, the hard part is determining why and this is where my fuzzy psycology may prove a hinderence. From my understanding, usually what we seek from society is somewhat a reflection of our own views of ourselves, society, or life in general. just a little bit of a reassurance that our view of things is in proper specturm. For me, I seek laughter because I fear i'm too serious and "booky" alot of the time and if people are laughing then I must not be a nerd right? But by hording knowledge as I do in order to skew arguments in my favor in a timely manner among other things indicates that I also have a rather high opinion of myself and seek to "win" arguments to affirm that. I use those as examples to also show that there are contradictions in everyone. While I want to be seen as light hearted and "funny", I also want it to be known that i'm a smart kid too. Now when someone seeks hostility from society, you have to determine whether they're seeking said hostility to validate their view of themselves meaning that they have major self-esteem issues or are they possibly anti-social and what they're seeking hostility not for the hostility's sake, but for the feelings and emotions behind the hostility, these people are more comfortable in a hostile evnironment because that is where they live all the time, for society around them to adapt to their hue of self loathing and hatred puts them more at ease as society is now imitating their view of the world rather than them feeling seperate from society.

Anyway, I went through all of this just to get your opinion of my thinking, how much of it is accurate and how much is jaded through a lack of understanding of complexities and the intrusion of phisisophical ideals and the invasion of Socialogical hinderences? All of this was pretty much one though process, but as is usual it's difficult to translate thought processes into language when they're basically hidden in mental shorthand in your head. You don't have to spell out theories and concepts when it's in your head because as it's coming from yourself, they're not really spelled out at all untill you start to explain the thought to others.


Well let me first say, my brain starts to hurt when I see a text block so big, but I read most of it and I'll give you my view. First of all you don't have to even be a psychology major, just take basic psychology in college to learn some basic concepts about the human mind. Yes, the human mind is extremely complex, but there are a couple things that psychologists use as basic principles. First off, the human mind uses defense mechanisms in order for you to deal with internal conflicts. The body has anti bodies for infections and the mind uses defensive mechanisms for conflicts.

For example, you see someone on the side of the road asking for money. A lot of things start running through people's head, like he probably will use it on alcohol,drugs, or he's doing it as a scam. Your mind puts excuses in your head so you don't feel like a horrible person for not giving a needy man some money. Stereotypes are another defense mechanism created for your mind for both defensive purposes and for organizational purposes.

Fuji, using a months worth of posts in this forum as material to analyze dpride is more than enough in my opinion, to form some basic conclusions. If you've ever listened to Dr. Drew, he can form broad statements by just listening to someone for minutes. Granted, I can't make a specific statement, but I can generalize dpride with the information I have at hand. He's clearly using certain self defense mechanisms on GLB to cover for some personal problems. Either that or he actually has some serious disorders. I'm actually giving him the benefit of the doubt. I'm just saying that his mind is projecting some sort of hate onto the forums, since everyone can clearly see he has created a personality on GLB. Dpride persona is something that he created in order for him to deal with something. What that is, I can't say, but with my knowledge of psychology, I can say that something is wrong.

A doctor doesn't have to do research to see that a patient has a broken arm, he just needs data (x-rays), to help him make the decision. The same goes for psychology, except our data is human interaction. Given the data on these forums I can see something is broken with dpride.

Also, I agree that psychology, philosophy, and sociology are all connected. Especially sociology and psychology.
 
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Originally posted by RoseBowlChamps
Here I'll even sugar coat what I was saying to you by removing the insults.

Yeah your right, obviously he doesn't understand AI very well after keeping the #2 and #4 teams scoreless in the playoffs. There couldn't be more evidence readily available on how all season dpride fucking owned EVERYONE with his AI. Look at the play by play against any team and you will see this.

What he was saying about switched back to basic you completely misunderstood. There are several inputs inside the AI, that during a certain score difference (ie: we winning by 34 or whatever he said, would have to check tactics) it changes from the specific plays we have layed out in situations to Random Passes/Runs (WHICH ARE BASED OFF OF THE BASIC SETTINGS/PLAYBOOK). So all that says is Bunghole was even worse prepared against some random plays we don't use than what we inserted for the Offense (which makes sense if you think about it).

What you say was "idiocy" is redundant. You cannot bait anyone into anything as there is only pre-gameplanning not in game changes. To bait you would have to lay down a shitty AI in the game before hand, and obviously that makes no sense in a playoff situation.

So continue to focus on a miswording by dpride, and avoid the matter at hand. Which is that you started swinging your dick around and shit talking with nothing to back it up.


RoseBowl, the AI explanation makes a lot of sense. Thanks for clarifying what dpride was saying. Just understand, the way you say things actually makes sense, and the way pride says things doesn't.

But trying to defend drpides "baiting" statement is a lost cause, even for you.

He clearly said that not only he was going to shut down their RB, but he actually baited them to use their RB, and also that they fell into some sort of trap, because of his superior gameplanning
 
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You're right, it's impossible to bait a team into running anything in this game as there's no in game adjustments by a player, but I don't see how that strengthens his point any. If anything, it makes his statement even more absurd because he's boasting about doing something that you yourself admit is impossible to do in this game.

Manipulating posts? I copied and pasted his post directly, how is that manipulating? There's no way to "misunderstand" the meaning of the post as it's so short and straightforward, the fact that it took some 10-15 posts before he'd even admit to any "miswording" only makes it seem more likely that he meant exactly what he posted. He didn't have any problem at all defending his claim untill it was broken down word for word and number for number and it was impossible to deny it was bogus to begin with. Most people can see that they misworded a post the first time they re-read it, and certainly the first time the validity of the post was questioned and would simply say "you're right, I goofed". Dpride stands on an island and swears he knew exactly what he was saying and that it was right all along, and he can prove it because i'm a garbage player, am in the wrong career path, and his team beat mine in a landslide.., oh and that our HBs stayed in the pocket to pass protect, but now suddenly it was all a big misunderstanding and i'm the big meanie for manipulating his post by pasting it directly? Seriously, you believe that?
 
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Originally posted by dpride59
Ya, we set the D ai to shutdown HB out of the backfield, and pitches, I was trying to bait you guys into a lot of Hb focus plays, and you didnt let us down!


See I get the first sentence. He set AI to shutdown the RB. Makes perfect sense, and congrats to dpride for doing a good job at it. But the second sentence is just dumb. " He was trying to bait you guys into a lot of HB focus plays". Lets examine this part of the quote. Now in real life football, you can bait teams into doing stuff, because you can play nickle or dime defense, and therefore make the QB audible into running plays. Or you can load the box and force teams to throw and beat you. However, GLB game planning is built upon the defense being reactionary. Now on offense you can bait teams to do things. Like for example, you could go 4 wide, and bait teams to play dime defense, and then use the HB draw. However the offense can not change a call based on the defensive call.

So, there is absolutely no way to bait someone into doing something offensively. When game planning defensively, the only thing you can do is watch for tendencies and plan accordingly. The proper smack would have been, I exposed your offense and shut down your bread and butter HB emphasis. He also says that they fell for it. They fell for what, doing the same thing they've done all season long.

This is to you Rose Bowl. I know dpride wouldn't admit that he says anything dumb, but it seems like you at least have a decent amount of intelligence and common sense. I really don't see how you defend this sentence as not being one of the dumbest things anyone could say when trying to talk smack.
 
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Thanks for the reply UFC, that actually was pretty enlightening as there were a few things in there I was overlooking. And sorry for the wall of text, I tend to do that alot when i'm trying to translate thought into text, I just throw it out in one big block before the clarity of thought passes and the mind drifts to something else.
 
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Obviously Bait is not the correct word we established that. But it is very clear in that context, that the second half of that sentence was trying to say "I set this predicting you were going use a lot of HB Focus Plays"

or even better yet

I set my trap(D AI) with bait(the hope or planning) that you would bite it(run a lot of HB Focused plays).

It was worded poorly, that is all.
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Originally posted by fujicrow
Thanks for the reply UFC, that actually was pretty enlightening as there were a few things in there I was overlooking. And sorry for the wall of text, I tend to do that alot when i'm trying to translate thought into text, I just throw it out in one big block before the clarity of thought passes and the mind drifts to something else.


No prob, I wouldn't say you were overlooking anything, like you said yourself, you have a different point of view with your educational backround than I have with mine. I was just playing with you on the wall of text.
 
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Originally posted by RoseBowlChamps
Obviously Bait is not the correct word we established that. But it is very clear in that context, that the second half of that sentence was trying to say "I set this predicting you were going use a lot of HB Focus Plays"

or even better yet

I set my trap(D AI) with bait(the hope or planning) that you would bite it(run a lot of HB Focused plays).

It was worded poorly, that is all.


O I get it, if you change every key word, then his statement makes perfect sense. How stupid of me. Please explain how bait =D AI and trap = Run what you normally run.

 
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No if you had any type of reading comprehension you can obviously decipher what was meant to be said.

And when you misword something, then usually that means you used the wrong key word?

Regardless Bunghole got shutout because Dpride BAITED(Gameplanned) for their HB Focus. Funny that you continue on 2 pages how he said the wrong word, and not the fact that Fujicrow was claiming that the OC/DC for a 19-0 team sucked with AI.

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Originally posted by RoseBowlChamps
No if you had any type of reading comprehension you can obviously decipher what was meant to be said.

And when you misword something, then usually that means you used the wrong key word?

Regardless Bunghole got shutout because Dpride BAITED(Gameplanned) for their HB Focus. Funny that you continue on 2 pages how he said the wrong word, and not the fact that Fujicrow was claiming that the OC/DC for a 19-0 team sucked with AI.



Bait doesn't = game plan. Its actually the total opposite of it. One means you made someone do something, the other means you planned on someone doing something. Don't blame lack of reading comprehension on me actually having common sense. I can comprehend what your saying, I just think your defense is as dumb as the statement your defending. I'm not stupid because I think game planning and baiting are totally different.

You still have not answered me on this, what did they "fall for" exactly. They were HB focused for the whole season. That's like some coach playing the minn. vikings and after the game they say, we baited them into running Adrian Peterson and they fell for it. O really you baited a team to do exactly what they've always been doing, please share your ultimate wisdom dpride.

He didn't use the wrong word. He used the wrong sentence. Meaning his whole quote was dumb. As for not getting on fuji, well he doesn't spend 99% of his time on this forum talking smack and belittling everyone. If you spend all your time making fun of everyone and you say something that is stupid, expect someone to come back with an insult. If your nice and sincere on this forum and you make a mistake, expect people to be forgiving. If this doesn't make sense to you then perhaps I've over estimated your common sense.
 
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Dumb statement already agreed to that, still think his intention can be clearly interpreted differently than how you see it.

 
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