What the hell? Lamichael clearly beats both those WR's hands down.
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I will put up chico's name for nomination
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=29787
1272 yards
19 TDs
18.2 AVG per catch
Not bad for a WR
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=29787
1272 yards
19 TDs
18.2 AVG per catch
Not bad for a WR
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Originally posted by Bull Rush
Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by Gargus
Originally posted by bhall43
. He and Barry D'Licious have to go down as the top 2 WR's this season with Barry facing far less competition to compile crazy stats in. Cole compiled just a mere 51 yards and 1 td against Gutted Competition. He finished the season torching Manila, Bandar, and Singapore B. before finally getting shut down against Bandar in the playoffs in meeting #2. His 26.8 average yards per reception was highest among WR's and second only to Meth Head who finished with 2 receptions this season...
Well, I agree with you about Cole and Barry being the 2 best WR's. (Meth doesn't count in the YAC conversation)
While you may have an argument with the competition... we can't help who we play. That being said, do you think Barry would be more successful that Cole at lvl 57?
Now, I understand, Cole can't help his level... but, Barry held his own against lvl 50+ guys all season.
That depends on where your going with this? Cole has given opposing teams fits at any level. He has been a great WR since day 1 of creation. So I cant exactly answer your question very well when I dont feel level really means a lot at this point...my level 53 WR with a great build is doing absolutely nothing in Canada AAA compared to his counterparts...its not really a matter of level. Especially when talking level 48 and up.
Difference in levels would be about 40 skill points which if Barry D' had would make WR's in this league look like they were playing in the pee-wee league. Barry D' is the only offensive player who beat his like position opposition by an impressive margin. To further go with this point the second place WR is actually pual (lol he isn't even a WR) not Cole. I am usually pretty damn quiet, but give Barry D' his damn credit where it is more than due.
i dont think you really understand the value of 40 skill points...at this stage...Coles build hasnt really changed a ton...in fact, its not even like the most outstanding build you have ever seen....he just has that "it" factor...much like Barry does and will have...
Not even sure where you think Pual is the second place guy? If you believe 9 receiving yards is more valuable than 2 tds than cool. Also yet again a weak league to play with. (and yes he is a HB anyways) Also pual averages 9.6 ypc....luckily i dont find the need to throw to Cole 20 times a game....we have other WR's who are capable. Also bring Barry D over to Naga and I will forever guarantee he finishes in a much more realistic world like Mr. Randy Moss who was eating the world for dinner. I will give Barry credit for his level....but dont bring the weak shit when your team is dominating games by 50+ points. Barry is a good WR, but he isnt THAT GREAT. And neither is Cole for that matter. Its the situation and the competition hands down. I am sure Barry will take it over Cole. I just wanted to make the case that its a lot closer than people think.
Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by Gargus
Originally posted by bhall43
. He and Barry D'Licious have to go down as the top 2 WR's this season with Barry facing far less competition to compile crazy stats in. Cole compiled just a mere 51 yards and 1 td against Gutted Competition. He finished the season torching Manila, Bandar, and Singapore B. before finally getting shut down against Bandar in the playoffs in meeting #2. His 26.8 average yards per reception was highest among WR's and second only to Meth Head who finished with 2 receptions this season...
Well, I agree with you about Cole and Barry being the 2 best WR's. (Meth doesn't count in the YAC conversation)
While you may have an argument with the competition... we can't help who we play. That being said, do you think Barry would be more successful that Cole at lvl 57?
Now, I understand, Cole can't help his level... but, Barry held his own against lvl 50+ guys all season.
That depends on where your going with this? Cole has given opposing teams fits at any level. He has been a great WR since day 1 of creation. So I cant exactly answer your question very well when I dont feel level really means a lot at this point...my level 53 WR with a great build is doing absolutely nothing in Canada AAA compared to his counterparts...its not really a matter of level. Especially when talking level 48 and up.
Difference in levels would be about 40 skill points which if Barry D' had would make WR's in this league look like they were playing in the pee-wee league. Barry D' is the only offensive player who beat his like position opposition by an impressive margin. To further go with this point the second place WR is actually pual (lol he isn't even a WR) not Cole. I am usually pretty damn quiet, but give Barry D' his damn credit where it is more than due.
i dont think you really understand the value of 40 skill points...at this stage...Coles build hasnt really changed a ton...in fact, its not even like the most outstanding build you have ever seen....he just has that "it" factor...much like Barry does and will have...
Not even sure where you think Pual is the second place guy? If you believe 9 receiving yards is more valuable than 2 tds than cool. Also yet again a weak league to play with. (and yes he is a HB anyways) Also pual averages 9.6 ypc....luckily i dont find the need to throw to Cole 20 times a game....we have other WR's who are capable. Also bring Barry D over to Naga and I will forever guarantee he finishes in a much more realistic world like Mr. Randy Moss who was eating the world for dinner. I will give Barry credit for his level....but dont bring the weak shit when your team is dominating games by 50+ points. Barry is a good WR, but he isnt THAT GREAT. And neither is Cole for that matter. Its the situation and the competition hands down. I am sure Barry will take it over Cole. I just wanted to make the case that its a lot closer than people think.
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Originally posted by bhall43
Barry is a good WR, but he isnt THAT GREAT.
i've very surprised that you would say that.
Barry is a good WR, but he isnt THAT GREAT.
i've very surprised that you would say that.
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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by Bull Rush
Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by Gargus
Originally posted by bhall43
. He and Barry D'Licious have to go down as the top 2 WR's this season with Barry facing far less competition to compile crazy stats in. Cole compiled just a mere 51 yards and 1 td against Gutted Competition. He finished the season torching Manila, Bandar, and Singapore B. before finally getting shut down against Bandar in the playoffs in meeting #2. His 26.8 average yards per reception was highest among WR's and second only to Meth Head who finished with 2 receptions this season...
Well, I agree with you about Cole and Barry being the 2 best WR's. (Meth doesn't count in the YAC conversation)
While you may have an argument with the competition... we can't help who we play. That being said, do you think Barry would be more successful that Cole at lvl 57?
Now, I understand, Cole can't help his level... but, Barry held his own against lvl 50+ guys all season.
That depends on where your going with this? Cole has given opposing teams fits at any level. He has been a great WR since day 1 of creation. So I cant exactly answer your question very well when I dont feel level really means a lot at this point...my level 53 WR with a great build is doing absolutely nothing in Canada AAA compared to his counterparts...its not really a matter of level. Especially when talking level 48 and up.
Difference in levels would be about 40 skill points which if Barry D' had would make WR's in this league look like they were playing in the pee-wee league. Barry D' is the only offensive player who beat his like position opposition by an impressive margin. To further go with this point the second place WR is actually pual (lol he isn't even a WR) not Cole. I am usually pretty damn quiet, but give Barry D' his damn credit where it is more than due.
i dont think you really understand the value of 40 skill points...at this stage...Coles build hasnt really changed a ton...in fact, its not even like the most outstanding build you have ever seen....he just has that "it" factor...much like Barry does and will have...
Not even sure where you think Pual is the second place guy? If you believe 9 receiving yards is more valuable than 2 tds than cool. Also yet again a weak league to play with. (and yes he is a HB anyways) Also pual averages 9.6 ypc....luckily i dont find the need to throw to Cole 20 times a game....we have other WR's who are capable. Also bring Barry D over to Naga and I will forever guarantee he finishes in a much more realistic world like Mr. Randy Moss who was eating the world for dinner. I will give Barry credit for his level....but dont bring the weak shit when your team is dominating games by 50+ points. Barry is a good WR, but he isnt THAT GREAT. And neither is Cole for that matter. Its the situation and the competition hands down. I am sure Barry will take it over Cole. I just wanted to make the case that its a lot closer than people think.
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Originally posted by Bull Rush
Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by Gargus
Originally posted by bhall43
. He and Barry D'Licious have to go down as the top 2 WR's this season with Barry facing far less competition to compile crazy stats in. Cole compiled just a mere 51 yards and 1 td against Gutted Competition. He finished the season torching Manila, Bandar, and Singapore B. before finally getting shut down against Bandar in the playoffs in meeting #2. His 26.8 average yards per reception was highest among WR's and second only to Meth Head who finished with 2 receptions this season...
Well, I agree with you about Cole and Barry being the 2 best WR's. (Meth doesn't count in the YAC conversation)
While you may have an argument with the competition... we can't help who we play. That being said, do you think Barry would be more successful that Cole at lvl 57?
Now, I understand, Cole can't help his level... but, Barry held his own against lvl 50+ guys all season.
That depends on where your going with this? Cole has given opposing teams fits at any level. He has been a great WR since day 1 of creation. So I cant exactly answer your question very well when I dont feel level really means a lot at this point...my level 53 WR with a great build is doing absolutely nothing in Canada AAA compared to his counterparts...its not really a matter of level. Especially when talking level 48 and up.
Difference in levels would be about 40 skill points which if Barry D' had would make WR's in this league look like they were playing in the pee-wee league. Barry D' is the only offensive player who beat his like position opposition by an impressive margin. To further go with this point the second place WR is actually pual (lol he isn't even a WR) not Cole. I am usually pretty damn quiet, but give Barry D' his damn credit where it is more than due.
i dont think you really understand the value of 40 skill points...at this stage...Coles build hasnt really changed a ton...in fact, its not even like the most outstanding build you have ever seen....he just has that "it" factor...much like Barry does and will have...
Not even sure where you think Pual is the second place guy? If you believe 9 receiving yards is more valuable than 2 tds than cool. Also yet again a weak league to play with. (and yes he is a HB anyways) Also pual averages 9.6 ypc....luckily i dont find the need to throw to Cole 20 times a game....we have other WR's who are capable. Also bring Barry D over to Naga and I will forever guarantee he finishes in a much more realistic world like Mr. Randy Moss who was eating the world for dinner. I will give Barry credit for his level....but dont bring the weak shit when your team is dominating games by 50+ points. Barry is a good WR, but he isnt THAT GREAT. And neither is Cole for that matter. Its the situation and the competition hands down. I am sure Barry will take it over Cole. I just wanted to make the case that its a lot closer than people think.
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
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Originally posted by Bull Rush
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Doesn't matter what you guy could be or will be in a couple seasons. Only matters what he does now, so the fact that a guy is lower level should not be considered at all IMO
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Doesn't matter what you guy could be or will be in a couple seasons. Only matters what he does now, so the fact that a guy is lower level should not be considered at all IMO
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Originally posted by nottom
Originally posted by Bull Rush
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Doesn't matter what you guy could be or will be in a couple seasons. Only matters what he does now, so the fact that a guy is lower level should not be considered at all IMO
I agree with this, and right now without the 40 pts or 8 levels Barry D is the best damn receiver in SEA. Period.
Originally posted by Bull Rush
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Doesn't matter what you guy could be or will be in a couple seasons. Only matters what he does now, so the fact that a guy is lower level should not be considered at all IMO
I agree with this, and right now without the 40 pts or 8 levels Barry D is the best damn receiver in SEA. Period.
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Originally posted by CelticRaider
Originally posted by nottom
Originally posted by Bull Rush
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Doesn't matter what you guy could be or will be in a couple seasons. Only matters what he does now, so the fact that a guy is lower level should not be considered at all IMO
I agree with this, and right now without the 40 pts or 8 levels Barry D is the best damn receiver in SEA. Period.
Why because he plays on the side of the league where half the teams should be in SEA AA?
Originally posted by nottom
Originally posted by Bull Rush
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Doesn't matter what you guy could be or will be in a couple seasons. Only matters what he does now, so the fact that a guy is lower level should not be considered at all IMO
I agree with this, and right now without the 40 pts or 8 levels Barry D is the best damn receiver in SEA. Period.
Why because he plays on the side of the league where half the teams should be in SEA AA?
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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by CelticRaider
Originally posted by nottom
Originally posted by Bull Rush
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Doesn't matter what you guy could be or will be in a couple seasons. Only matters what he does now, so the fact that a guy is lower level should not be considered at all IMO
I agree with this, and right now without the 40 pts or 8 levels Barry D is the best damn receiver in SEA. Period.
Why because he plays on the side of the league where half the teams should be in SEA AA?
Not his fault. That's why I posted a few stats outside the league to show that he's the real deal.
Of course Taint started gavel banging like a fucking lunatic..
Originally posted by CelticRaider
Originally posted by nottom
Originally posted by Bull Rush
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Doesn't matter what you guy could be or will be in a couple seasons. Only matters what he does now, so the fact that a guy is lower level should not be considered at all IMO
I agree with this, and right now without the 40 pts or 8 levels Barry D is the best damn receiver in SEA. Period.
Why because he plays on the side of the league where half the teams should be in SEA AA?
Not his fault. That's why I posted a few stats outside the league to show that he's the real deal.
Of course Taint started gavel banging like a fucking lunatic..
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Originally posted by Sockamidic
Not his fault. That's why I posted a few stats outside the league to show that he's the real deal.
Of course Taint started gavel banging like a fucking lunatic..
So its Cole's fault for playing good competition on a regular basis? Im not arguing Barry isnt good. I am just saying that the ridiculous statistics come from beating people down on a constant basis.
Not his fault. That's why I posted a few stats outside the league to show that he's the real deal.
Of course Taint started gavel banging like a fucking lunatic..
So its Cole's fault for playing good competition on a regular basis? Im not arguing Barry isnt good. I am just saying that the ridiculous statistics come from beating people down on a constant basis.
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Originally posted by bhall43
Originally posted by Sockamidic
Not his fault. That's why I posted a few stats outside the league to show that he's the real deal.
Of course Taint started gavel banging like a fucking lunatic..
So its Cole's fault for playing good competition on a regular basis? Im not arguing Barry isnt good. I am just saying that the ridiculous statistics come from beating people down on a constant basis.
I don't know why you keep putting down the conference. I know we have the Hustlers, but we also have some pretty damn good teams here.
Sumatra Sting, Bangkok Tweetys, Bats, Flames, Lightening, LSP to name a few.
At least we both agree Barry D's stats are ridiculous.
Originally posted by Sockamidic
Not his fault. That's why I posted a few stats outside the league to show that he's the real deal.
Of course Taint started gavel banging like a fucking lunatic..
So its Cole's fault for playing good competition on a regular basis? Im not arguing Barry isnt good. I am just saying that the ridiculous statistics come from beating people down on a constant basis.
I don't know why you keep putting down the conference. I know we have the Hustlers, but we also have some pretty damn good teams here.
Sumatra Sting, Bangkok Tweetys, Bats, Flames, Lightening, LSP to name a few.
At least we both agree Barry D's stats are ridiculous.
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Originally posted by Sockamidic
I don't know why you keep putting down the conference.
Because he is an ass spelunker.
I don't know why you keep putting down the conference.
Because he is an ass spelunker.
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Originally posted by nottom
Originally posted by Bull Rush
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Doesn't matter what you guy could be or will be in a couple seasons. Only matters what he does now, so the fact that a guy is lower level should not be considered at all IMO
Using that logic: Barry can't help who he plays. He makes the most of the situation with which he's given.
Originally posted by Bull Rush
Obviously you don't understand what 40 points can do for a well built player at this stage of the game. What I could do with another 40 points, and another 8 more levels plus veteran points. It's scary to think how silly I could make defenses look.
Doesn't matter what you guy could be or will be in a couple seasons. Only matters what he does now, so the fact that a guy is lower level should not be considered at all IMO
Using that logic: Barry can't help who he plays. He makes the most of the situation with which he's given.
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Originally posted by kurieg
What the hell? Lamichael clearly beats both those WR's hands down.
What the hell? Lamichael clearly beats both those WR's hands down.
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Guys....if you think for a moment that Barry D is not the top performing WR in this league, you really need to watch some tape. He is absolutely, unbelievably good.
To be fair, I will say he has a tremendous wealth of talent to support him, and a great OC in Sockamidic...factors which play a large role in his dominance.
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